Clarence Hill tweet: Charles Haley makes Hall of Fame

[KB1122]

And Bettis didn't do anything spectacular in that Super Bowl. He was forgettable, except for that whole narrative about him returning home to end his career.

Yeah, but that narrative was one of the big reasons that the referees cheated for the Stealers. So in that way he was a huge contributor.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Heck Yeh!!!!!!!!!

 

[KB1122]

Also it's very important that a player win a championship. Or play for the Kansas City Chiefs.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Also it's very important that a player win a championship. Or play for the Kansas City Chiefs.

lol

 

[RoboQB]

Barely 100 sacks . Good for him , but the half of fame standards have really diminished . Very good player but not a hall of famer for me.

Jimmy Johnson would defer with your opinion... Helmet hair has been quoted as saying "we couldn't even spell Super Bowl without Charles Haley."
Haley is the leading sack master in NFL history, as stated during his introduction.
and a little side bar here.... he was very demonstrative in Jerry Jones signing Emmitt Smith for his 2nd contract.
You have a right to your opinion but, when looking at players accomplishment, try not to be too fixated on stats... sure, they help tell the story but not the whole story.
Charles Haley won 5 Super Bowls... he didn't ride the pine... he was a key player in getting there and in winning each one... he deserves to be there.

 

[RoboQB]

Sixth all-time in rushing yards (at 3.9 yards per carry) with a Super Bowl ring.

Bettis had a great series of games in his Super Bowl year... they needed to win 6 or 7 in a row to make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl...
but he also almost single-handedly blew it for the Steelers win he fumbled at the one-yard line. Rothlisberger made a TD saving tackle and the Steelers
held on to beat the Colts in Indy.

I've never really thought of him as a HOF-type player but he did have a nice stretch with Pittsburgh which basically locks him in... at one time, he was a 1st round bust
with the Rams.

 

[LucaBrasi]

Haley has already mentioned Debartolo as a possible presenter (as well as Jones). I'm happy he's in, because he was an key piece to 5 SB champions.

However, he should be nowhere near the Cowboys ROH. He didn't do it long enough as a Cowboy IMO.

 

[darthseinfeld]

How the heck does Jerome Bettis make it in, especially when players more deserving than he didn't?

And Don Coryell being snubbed again is ludicrous.

Almost 14,000 rushing yards. If you hit that your clearly an HOF back.

 

[adbutcher]

Did you watch him play? Sacks don't show the kind of relentless pressure and havoc he created.

Very true! Watt didn't lead the league in sacks this year and he received votes for MVP.

 

[tyke1doe]

He got in for 2 reasons.
1. He was a good not great player for a long time.
2. The voting panel consists of a large number of Steelers fanboys.

3. He's a member of the media and the media like their own.

 

[tyke1doe]

Yeah, but that narrative was one of the big reasons that the referees cheated for the Stealers. So in that way he was a huge contributor.

 

[Sarge]

The HOF is a joke....having said that.......

 

[tyke1doe]

Yep. Although Bettis is higher in rushing than either Bledsoe or Testaverde, and Bledsoe got his ring as a backup without playing a snap in that game.

I think Bettis is a perfect case for why it's the Hall of Fame and not the Hall of Numbers. There are some situations in the history of the NFL that fame and what a player does for the game is bigger than numbers (see Gale Sayers, Joe Namath) and some situations where numbers - even though outstanding - shouldn't be considered as highly (see Bettis).

I have to ask myself this about Bettis: Did he do anything spectacular in the game of football that I should think he is critical to the history of the game? And I would have to answer, "No." Bettis didn't help form the history of the game. He just had a cute nickname, "The Bus", but he was forgettable.

Jimmy Johnson? You can't write NFL history without his influence because it is MAJOR, despite the numbers or his short career as a coach.
Don Coryell? Pulease, he should have been in long time ago.
Bettis? He stayed in the league long enough to compile good numbers. And Testeverde and Bledsoe are waiting on their nominations as we speak.

I'm sorry, but Jerome Bettis in the Hall of Fame is laughable.

 

[skinsscalper]

Kurt Warner didn't make it?

This is the one that is unbelievable, actually.

 

[skinsscalper]

How the heck does Jerome Bettis make it in, especially when players more deserving than he didn't?

And Don Coryell being snubbed again is ludicrous.

The fact that Gil Brandt is not in the HOF is more ludicrous than Coryell, IMHO.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Finally!

 

[tyke1doe]

The fact that Gil Brandt is not in the HOF is more ludicrous than Coryell, IMHO.

Yes, Gil Brandt should be in too. He was one of the main architects for America's Team.

 

[NickZepp]

Almost every NFL offense today is based off the concepts that Coryell was doing over 50 years ago. It's shocking he isn't in the HOF.

Bettis was a decent back and mostly a short yardage back that was loved by the media. That's probably why he's in the HOF. I'm not sure if he was even one of the 10 best RBs in that era from the late 90s to the early 00s. I would certainly take a guy like Terrell Davis over him. Davis had 4 or 5 great years where he was probably the best back in the league. And also had very impressive playoff numbers. He should be in before the Bus.

 

[skinsscalper]

Yes, Gil Brandt should be in too. He was one of the main architects for America's Team.

He was also instrumental in the implementation of current scouting trends. The Cowboys were the first team to start using computers to cross reference a multitude of measurables with on field production (as I'm sure you already know). He deserves to be recognized for his role in the innovation of the game if for nothing else, IMO.

 

[percyhoward]

With the induction of Shields and Seau, all 30 eligible players with 10+ Pro Bowls are now in. The only remaining players with 10+ Pro Bowls are not yet eligible:

Bailey
Favre
Gonzalez
Lewis
Manning
Witten

Tingelhoff was an interesting choice as a senior candidate, because one of the knocks on Chuck Howley is that only 1 of his 6 Pro Bowls and 1 of his 5 1st team All-Pro selections were post-merger, when the competition doubled. No candidate represents better evidence of the effect of the merger on postseason honors than Tingelhoff. None of his 6 Pro Bowls or 5 1st team All-Pro selections were post merger, and he's four years younger than Howley.