Cleveland's First Round Pick...

[dbair1967]

I could see them winning all those games and being 11-5

they might...but they've had alot of flukey wins too...they might lose 3 of them or even all of them...they dont have a very good defense

David

 

[sbark]

Romeo Crennel should snag coach of the year

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think this is the point...many are thinking we will trade both picks to go after a "wow" player, which may only be McFadden. The more Clevland loses the better our chance of using both #1's to get him.

I'm not willing to give the farm for McFadden, but I would not be upset if we used both #1's to get him. He is the only player in the draft worth even considering.

After him...I say stay put and get Slaton and Cason...we need another top CB badly with these four and five WR sets.

I think Jerry would be making a big mistake in giving up both #1's. All the praise of how he has learned and has gotten better would be forgotten.

IMO its a dumb move. Probably gonna have to wrap up both #1's and a player.

We need to take a page out of the Pats book and keep adding quality players to this team.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I think Jerry would be making a big mistake in giving up both #1's. All the praise of how he has learned and has gotten better would be forgotten.

IMO its a dumb move. Probably gonna have to wrap up both #1's and a player.

We need to take a page out of the Pats book and keep adding quality players to this team.

Normally I would agree.

However, McFadden is a freaking BEAST!!!

He is the only player in this draft I would even consider trading multipe first-rounders for.

 

[DasTex]

Normally I would agree.

However, McFadden is a freaking BEAST!!!

He is the only player in this draft I would even consider trading multipe first-rounders for.

I think McFadden is great as well...BUT, whats clouding everyone's point of view here is how AD has done this year. The season he is having is unbelievable, and almost never happens. You can't expect that same type of production from McFad....their two different type of runners. Also, his legs look awful skinny to take the pounding an NFL back does.

 

[Rack]

Cleveland faces the Jets (away), Buffalo (home), Cincy (away), and San Francisco (away). I could easily see Cleveland losing three of the next four and ending up 8 and 8. Of course, I would not object to them losing all four of their remaining games.

The only game I see them losing would be the Buffalo game (Possibly).


More likely they're gonna win all 4. Cleveland is head and shoulders better then every one of those teams.

Losing 3 of the 4? Keep dreaming. I'd love for that to happen, but sadly my brain resides in reality so ... yeah. They'll WIN 3 out of 4 at worst.

 

[Rack]

I think McFadden is great as well...BUT, whats clouding everyone's point of view here is how AD has done this year. The season he is having is unbelievable, and almost never happens. You can't expect that same type of production from McFad....their two different type of runners. Also, his legs look awful skinny to take the pounding an NFL back does.

BS. I was on the McFadden bandwagon the minute we traded for Cleveland's first next year. AD didn't have a dang thing to do about it.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Cleveland faces the Jets (away), Buffalo (home), Cincy (away), and San Francisco (away). I could easily see Cleveland losing three of the next four and ending up 8 and 8. Of course, I would not object to them losing all four of their remaining games.

Well the Jets could post some type of challenge, but who knows?, my prediction:: Cleveland 38 - 17

I believe Buffalo will be their toughest challenge on this schedule... I believe with Buffalo defense and their offense showing some type of attempt to turn on, this could be the game to see, playoffs atmosphere, but my prediction:: Buffalo 24 - 21, field goal in overtime.

Cincy, I believe they could almost call this the season, but that means Cincy going to be playing all out, meaning they playing like they ain't got nothing to lose. When these two teams get together and play, points are scored, it gets really offensive. My Prediction: Cincy 49 - 41

Last But Not Least San Fransico, I believe 49ers will be playing to finish off the Cleveland Browns for the year. My prediction Browns defeat 49ers 31- 13..

 

[DasTex]

BS. I was on the McFadden bandwagon the minute we traded for Cleveland's first next year. AD didn't have a dang thing to do about it.

Well good for you.....I guess I should have said most somewheres in there.

 

[Rack]

Well good for you.....I guess I should have said most somewheres in there.

Just wanted to make sure you knew the real deal.


In fact, I'd say most of us were pro McFadden before the season even started.


As soon as Jerry (or was it Stephen) said "That could be McFadden" after the trade, I began to dream.

 

[smarta5150]

Mike Hart >>>>> McFadden

 

[Zaxor]

BS. I was on the McFadden bandwagon the minute we traded for Cleveland's first next year. AD didn't have a dang thing to do about it.

Heck My friend Rack is driving that sucka...

that said I still don't like McFadden(I don't mean the person, I mean the football player) just something about him seems wrong...I just can't put my finger on it...it is more a feeling than something of substance right now atleast till I can name it.

 

[DasTex]

Just wanted to make sure you knew the real deal.


In fact, I'd say most of us were pro McFadden before the season even started.


As soon as Jerry (or was it Stephen) said "That could be McFadden" after the trade, I began to dream.

I agree, and I started dreaming that same dream, but we can't expect the same type of numbers AD has put up this year.

Given our need at CB, I'd have no problem drafting Felix Jones with one of our 1st and targeting a CB with the other. Then trade our 2nd along w/ Carp. to Detroit for Roy Williams....and then best available with the rest of the picks.

 

[jobberone]

I think Jerry would be making a big mistake in giving up both #1's. All the praise of how he has learned and has gotten better would be forgotten.

IMO its a dumb move. Probably gonna have to wrap up both #1's and a player.

We need to take a page out of the Pats book and keep adding quality players to this team.

That is how I feel` We are a very good club` Shoring things up is preferable IMO.

I think McFadden is great as well...BUT, whats clouding everyone's point of view here is how AD has done this year. The season he is having is unbelievable, and almost never happens. You can't expect that same type of production from McFad....their two different type of runners. Also, his legs look awful skinny to take the pounding an NFL back does.

That's the question. First can you get him. Second is do you really need him. I disagree with Jerry. Offense is not the problem unless you think WR will be. And that would be hard to argue against.

Does the possibility of a break away back lure you away from two first rounders probably WR and DB? I don't know. I can argue either way.

Jerry needs to listen and not make this decision himself. I think he's capable of good decisions all by his lonesome but I trust the collective decisions more. We have done very well the last few years. Whatever they are doing they need to continue.

 

[Beast_from_East]

That is how I feel` We are a very good club` Shoring things up is preferable IMO.



That's the question. First can you get him. Second is do you really need him. I disagree with Jerry. Offense is not the problem unless you think WR will be. And that would be hard to argue against.

Does the possibility of a break away back lure you away from two first rounders probably WR and DB? I don't know. I can argue either way.

Jerry needs to listen and not make this decision himself. I think he's capable of good decisions all by his lonesome but I trust the collective decisions more. We have done very well the last few years. Whatever they are doing they need to continue.

I really think the decision has already been made.

Jerry said we needed a "wow" player on offense from this draft. The only 2 positions on offense that would be considered "wow", would be WR and RB.

McFadden is head and shoulders above any of the other backs in this draft and will be the first guy drafted. This would be a "wow" player.

There are currently no WRs in this years group that have "wow". The biggest name is Desean Jackson from Cal and even he is not all that spectacular. Calvin Johnson was a "wow" player, at least in college that is.

So when Jerry says we need a "wow" player on offense from this draft, I really dont know who he would be talking about other than McFadden.

Like I said, the decision has already been made.............my .02

 

[Rack]

Mike Hart >>>>> McFadden

Yeah...


At getting hurt.

 

[Woods]

I think Jerry would be making a big mistake in giving up both #1's. All the praise of how he has learned and has gotten better would be forgotten.

IMO its a dumb move. Probably gonna have to wrap up both #1's and a player.

We need to take a page out of the Pats book and keep adding quality players to this team.

I agree with you.

I'd only give up one of our 1st rounders for a player like Fitzgerald.

 

[Rack]

I agree with you.

I'd only give up one of our 1st rounders for a player like Fitzgerald.

Wow.

He's already one of the top WRs in the game, and he's only 24 years old.

If one of those first rounders was top 10, I'd agree with you. But we're talking two first rounders that will be around 26 and 32. Not exactly giving up elite picks there.


You can take two solid contributors there (and if this were 2003 I'd do it) or you can trade them both for 1 elite player.

I'll take the elite player.

 

[TVMan]

Three number one picks should get you into the top five, don't you think?

If D-MAC is our guy, then packaging the two number ones for '08 and the number one for '09 should be enough.

Is Jerry willing to do that?

 

[Woods]

Three number one picks should get you into the top five, don't you think?

If D-MAC is our guy, then packaging the two number ones for '08 and the number one for '09 should be enough.

Is Jerry willing to do that?

I don't know, but I suspect you're correct in terms of the price to get a top 2-3 pick.

I haven't looked at the value chart, but probably around 3 1st rounders would be around what it would take to go that high (assuming Cleveland's pick is in the low 20s and our pick is around 30-31 this year with the Pats losing their pick).