Cole Beasley - Role Player

[Hoofbite]

Dude is built like a 7th grader. I'm afraid he'll break in half.

He's okay, but I wish he could do SOMETHING on special teams. A fourth or fifth receiver that doesn't is dead weight.

What would you want him to do? Only thing I could imagine would be returning kicks. He'd have to be pretty good to return punts over Harris and situational Dez.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

What would you want him to do? Only thing I could imagine would be returning kicks. He'd have to be pretty good to return punts over Harris and situational Dez.

Situational Harris is better than situational Dez, too. No Dez on PR's..

 

[Nexx]

Harris is more of an outside guy, imo.. but i agree. Beasley will be a beast in the slot if we let him continue to develop and give him more and more playing time each year. He did very well in limited oppertunity last season, and even then you could see Tony and he had a good rapport already. Tony seems very comfortable going his way, and Beasley seems to catch everything thrown his way.

disagree 100%. harris is a decent slot receiver, below average outside receiver imho

 

[Hoofbite]

Situational Harris is better than situational Dez, too. No Dez on PR's..

I like Harris but I think Dez is a huge threat whenever he touches the ball. He dances too much at times and Harris doesn't so Harris is going to be more consistent but if it came down to getting a big return in a must need situation, I'd go with Dez.

I just don't know what people would want of him? Put him on punt returns to "increase" his value while taking a hit in the PR game? No 4th or 5th who would make this roster is better than Harris or Dez in returning punts.

I guess he could become the KR that everyone wants so there is one spot I could see people wishing he could contribute.

I think Beasley is one of the few players on the team who can get separation quickly off the line. Dez and Miles need a couple of strides and Witten has to set his guy up a couple yards down field. Beasley is small and quick enough to separate quickly off the line. He's not going to maintain that separation but if you just need a few yards in the face of a blitz, I think he's one of the few guys on the team who can really help move the chains in those situations.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

disagree 100%. harris is a decent slot receiver, below average outside receiver imho

I guess we'll see where he ends up lining up in the preseason games.. it'll be interesting for sure. I know the team has said they are confident with him on the outside though.

 

[DFWJC]

I wish Beasley would help us in special teams or would at least be a D level blocker.

But honestly, I think he is so talented out of the slot that odds are in his favor to make the final 53 anyway. He can creat problems

 

[skinsscalper]

Snaps? I think he'll get 15-20 snaps a game, no problem.

I don't think there's any way Beasley see 15-20 snaps a game. JMO.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I like Harris but I think Dez is a huge threat whenever he touches the ball. He dances too much at times and Harris doesn't so Harris is going to be more consistent but if it came down to getting a big return in a must need situation, I'd go with Dez.

I just don't know what people would want of him? Put him on punt returns to "increase" his value while taking a hit in the PR game? No 4th or 5th who would make this roster is better than Harris or Dez in returning punts.

I guess he could become the KR that everyone wants so there is one spot I could see people wishing he could contribute.

I think Beasley is one of the few players on the team who can get separation quickly off the line. Dez and Miles need a couple of strides and Witten has to set his guy up a couple yards down field. Beasley is small and quick enough to separate quickly off the line. He's not going to maintain that separation but if you just need a few yards in the face of a blitz, I think he's one of the few guys on the team who can really help move the chains in those situations.

Yea, maybe like an end of game scenario with the game on the line, you're right. We'd probably see Dez there, but most every situation, i'd rather see Harris. He's just better at it.

 

[Galian Beast]

The idea that he has to play special teams is a bit over stated. How many linebackers do you think we're going to be taking this year, 6 or 7? How many safeties? 5 or 6? We're taking 4 tight ends... On top of what 6 wide receivers?

Dude played in 10 games last year, don't see him being downgraded this year after adding weight and strength.

I don't think he will be asked to run block often. Like I said before it's all about role players. Cole Beasley can be a player who comes in on 3rd and long. He can be used in 4 receiver sets, and to spell Austin in the slot. That is certainly 10-15 snaps per game. And if he can get 3-4 catches per game, that amounts to 45-64 catches. That's looking like a minimum of 315 yards... Not bad for a role player. That being said I think his upside can bring us about 450-600 yards, depending on the health of Austin and the development of the tight ends.

Like I said earlier, a lot of this stuff is going to be game specific and player specific. Who gives you the best match up will often be the question going into every weeks game.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I don't think there's any way Beasley see 15-20 snaps a game. JMO.

I think he'll be right around the 15 range.. we shall see though.

 

[Galian Beast]

I think he'll be right around the 15 range.. we shall see though.

One thing to remember, there will be games where he hardly plays at all, and then there will be games where he gets like 30-40 snaps. Injuries, matchups, game situations.

If we're playing from behind, I would expect more Beasley. If we're playing with a lead, I would expect more Escobar.

Terrance Williams' development will also factor in greatly with how many snaps Beasley gets.

Also basically any injury pushes Beasley into the starting 3.

 

[skinsscalper]

I think he'll be right around the 15 range.. we shall see though.

Don't get me wrong, it wouldn't break my heart. I'm pullin' for the kid big time, but with the recent comments from Garrett about Beasley needing to improve his blocking and the fact that he doesn't contribute on STs stacks the odds against him in the snap count department. Honestly, at this point, I'd be happy for him to get 2-5 targets a game and let him build from there.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I've been high on Cole Beasley for some time. I know a lot of people are sleeping on him, or dislike him because he wanted to quit at one point.

Fact is this guy can play. I think he can fit in nicely as an alternative slot player. I'd like to see him get 10-15 snaps per game. He's really impressing me with his development. No he isn't very big, but he works at it. Give me more players like him who can make plays and move chains.

Miles Austin won't be on this team forever. Beasley will make a great slot option in the future. I think they clearly like him there more than Harris.

I don't think they like Beasley more than Harris. I think that's your wishful thinking.

Harris is more of an outside guy, imo.. but i agree. Beasley will be a beast in the slot if we let him continue to develop and give him more and more playing time each year. He did very well in limited oppertunity last season, and even then you could see Tony and he had a good rapport already. Tony seems very comfortable going his way, and Beasley seems to catch everything thrown his way.

How is Harris more of an outside guy? He's a prototypical slot. We have outside guys, and then we have our slot guys like Harris and Beasley.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Don't get me wrong, it wouldn't break my heart. I'm pullin' for the kid big time, but with the recent comments from Garrett about Beasley needing to improve his blocking and the fact that he doesn't contribute on STs stacks the odds against him in the snap count department. Honestly, at this point, I'd be happy for him to get 2-5 targets a game and let him build from there.

I don't think his inability to contribute on ST's matters at all in how many snaps he'll get with the offense. Honestly, he was in the 2-5 targets range last year, its onward and upward. I think Tony was clearly comfortable throwing to him even last year, and i think the fact that he brings something to this offense that no other receiver we have does is the reason why he was worked in at the end of last year, and why he'll have a bigger role going forward. I would definitely expect him somewhere in the 15 snaps a game range.. but like i said, we will see.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I don't think they like Beasley more than Harris. I think that's your wishful thinking.

How is Harris more of an outside guy? He's a prototypical slot. We have outside guys, and then we have our slot guys like Harris and Beasley.

I disagree with both these statements, but its been debated already. Like i've been saying, no point in arguing about it now, just gotta sit back and see where they get used and who plays more in the offense. I think Beasley will get more targets this year than Harris.. that coming from a guy who's liked Harris from the beginning. Either way, its a good problem to have trying to get touches for so many good skill players.

 

[skinsscalper]

I don't think his inability to contribute on ST's matters at all in how many snaps he'll get with the offense. Honestly, he was in the 2-5 targets range last year, its onward and upward. I think Tony was clearly comfortable throwing to him even last year, and i think the fact that he brings something to this offense that no other receiver we have does is the reason why he was worked in at the end of last year, and why he'll have a bigger role going forward. I would definitely expect him somewhere in the 15 snaps a game range.. but like i said, we will see.

I hear what you are saying but the depth chart at WR is a little deeper than it was last year especially with the drafting of Williams and the emergence of Harris last season. It's much more of a numbers game this season than it was last season. Williams alone is going to cut into the opportunities of both Harris and Beasley if he continues to progress as well as has been reported late in the week considering that his presence and speed on the outside would allow the team to use Austin where he is more of a match up nightmare in the slot (which just happens to be where Beasley and Harris make their beds).

The one thing that you pointed out that DOES play to Beasley's favor is the fact that Tony trusts him. Another thing that, so far, has played to his advantage is the fact that Danny Coale has yet to get out of the trainer's room because, to be honest, I think Coale is a better WR. But, like they say, you can't make the club in the tub. As always, injuries are going to play a role in Beasley's contribution numbers, also. I'm just glad we seem to have some decent depth at the position for once.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I hear what you are saying but the depth chart at WR is a little deeper than it was last year especially with the drafting of Williams and the emergence of Harris last season. It's much more of a numbers game this season than it was last season. Williams alone is going to cut into the opportunities of both Harris and Beasley if he continues to progress as well as has been reported late in the week considering that his presence and speed on the outside would allow the team to use Austin where he is more of a match up nightmare in the slot (which just happens to be where Beasley and Harris make their beds).

The one thing that you pointed out that DOES play to Beasley's favor is the fact that Tony trusts him. Another thing that, so far, has played to his advantage is the fact that Danny Coale has yet to get out of the trainer's room because, to be honest, I think Coale is a better WR. But, like they say, you can't make the club in the tub. As always, injuries are going to play a role in Beasley's contribution numbers, also. I'm just glad we seem to have some decent depth at the position for once.

"The emergence of Harris"??

He had two more catches all year than Beasley did, lol. (With 6 more games played, too.)

I hear what you guys are saying.. some of you think Harris and Williams are going to take up Beasley's time in the offense and that he doesn't really bring much to the table.

I think you are wrong.. simple as that. I think he offers alot more to this offense than you think, and it will be something that forces the coaching staff to find time for him, even over a guy like Harris, and even Williams at times.

 

[Galian Beast]

I don't think they like Beasley more than Harris. I think that's your wishful thinking.




How is Harris more of an outside guy? He's a prototypical slot. We have outside guys, and then we have our slot guys like Harris and Beasley.

Beasley is getting time with the 1s, Harris is not...

 

[skinsscalper]

"The emergence of Harris"??

He had two more catches all year than Beasley did, lol. (With 6 more games played, too.)

I hear what you guys are saying.. some of you think Harris and Williams are going to take up Beasley's time in the offense and that he doesn't really bring much to the table.

I think you are wrong.. simple as that. I think he offers alot more to this offense than you think, and it will be something that forces the coaching staff to find time for him, even over a guy like Harris, and even Williams at times.

The "emergence of Harris" statement had as much to do with his contributions on STs as much as at WR. Harris has become the most dynamic returner we've had on this team in a long time. That's not saying much, but the dude has a knack for playing in traffic and being physical after contact. Beasley, well, has not. He doesn't have the physical make up to contribute in the way that Harris can, especially in blocking.

All things considered, Harris is MUCH more dynamic with the ball in his hands than Beasley will ever be, bro. Harris has shown that he can handle the contact and still come out the other side with a positive gain and he's a beast to bring down. Beasley's advantage is crazy good hands. The dude catches everything. All things considered I would give Harris the advantage over Beasley. He contributes more to the team (i.e. blocking, STs/return ability, physicality). That doesn't mean that I'm not pulling for Beasley. I think the dude has a chance be a Welker/Amendola type if everything breaks right for him.

 

[skinsscalper]

Beasley is getting time with the 1s, Harris is not...

Let's not read too much into one day of practice, eh?