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Video: Colin Cowherd on Amari Cooper Trade

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by 817Gill, Oct 23, 2018.

  1. zerofill

    zerofill Well-Known Member

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    I would take Bridgewater in a heartbeat... Tyrod, no way... he is Dak Prescott.

    Fitzpatrick, is 35 now. The only thing he has going for him is arm strength, and willingness to pull the trigger. But, I think he would be an INT machine here, like he normally becomes after a few good outings.

    Honestly I would take Alex Smith as well, in a heartbeat. Because he can be checkdown all he wants... the ball is at least normally where it needs to be.

    I know one thing... This defense we have, that we like. They are going to be riddled with injuries, and beat down, if the offense keeps up the 3 and outs.
     
  2. brooksey1

    brooksey1 Zone Supporter

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    Slow down and take a breather. He was hurt last year and the team is in disarray this year, yet he has two 100 yd games in his last 4 games this season Guy is a two time pro-bowler, he's 24.
     
  3. Bleu Star

    Bleu Star Bye Felicia! Zone Supporter

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    Who?
     
  4. Roadtrip635

    Roadtrip635 Well-Known Member

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    Same can be said of Dak. His team was in disarry last year and has had two good games in his last 4. Both were pro bowlers 2 years ago, but what have they done since? In Coopers games this year he has 2 100 yd games and the other 4 he couldn't crack 17 yds. People need to slow down anointing Cooper a great WR right now until he can prove that actually he is. The guy's work ethic and desire have also been called into question too, not someone I'm willing to just assume is going to be worth it until he proves it.
     
  5. GMO415

    GMO415 Well-Known Member

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    Solid take. Now can Dak grow some nuggets and throw him the ball?
     
  6. charron

    charron Well-Known Member

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    He also has 5 games of less than 20 yards this season
     
  7. OmerV

    OmerV Well-Known Member

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    No, he's had 3 games of less than 20 yards, and another where he got hurt in the 2nd quarter and didn't play again. He also was barely targeted in those games. Hard to know who to blame for that (play calls, QB, Cooper himself), but in the games he had a notable number of targets his numbers were very good.
     
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  8. ESisback

    ESisback Well-Known Member

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    You said we shouldn’t be trying to skate past the risk. What SHOULD we do? Criticize our own move? Do nothing? There’s risk with anything you do.
     
  9. Outlaw Heroes

    Outlaw Heroes Well-Known Member

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    Yep. And we should acknowledge that. Of course, more risk generally means more reward. This is a potentially high reward move. But it’s also a high risk move. Pretending we traded a first for an ‘elite’ WR (Cowherd’s word) is just that: pretending.

    One thing we SHOULD do is negotiate with teams rather than just accepting their initial asking price. That’s just good business. Whatever you think of the player.
     
  10. charron

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    My bad it lists 4 games. But I didnt know he was hurt that last game, it just lists that he started.
     
  11. OmerV

    OmerV Well-Known Member

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    Or maybe he has been an elite player with a QB and offense that hasn't been elite. Of course, that appears to be the case in Dallas at the moment as well. Dallas does have a stronger rushing game to provide balance though.
     
  12. OmerV

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    He got a concussion the last game, which I assume the Cowboys decided wasn't going to be a problem before making the trade. Let's hope so anyway ... lol

    In any case, your concern isn't unreasonable - even 3 games out of 6 is a concern for a guy that we gave up a 1st round pick for. But there are a lot of problems in Oakland, so hopefully that is more to blame than Cooper himself. Of course, at least on offense there are problems in Dallas too.
     
  13. Mr_Strol

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    There have been open WRs every single game. Tony Romo pointed it out at least 6 times on Sunday. What will it take for people to blame Dak for anything?
     
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  14. Outlaw Heroes

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    I think that’s an argument for why he can get back to elite. (To that point, his targets have dropped significanly in his down years, giving him between 25-30% fewer opportunities.) But the fact is that his production hasn’t been elite production since 2016.
     
  15. Bigdog

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    I agree with his assessment. We will see with what Dak has before we make big investment on him. The Cowboys have 69 million+ to spend in FA which ranks 4th or 5th most next year. There are no excuses. If he doesn't get the job done in the next year and half than I am all for drafting a qb in the 2020 draft. Hopefully it will be Tau or Herbert (don't think he is leaving this year).
     
  16. xwalker

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    I think the logic is correct but it's geared at determining if they are going to keep this coaches.

    They have over 1.5 seasons remaining with Dak on this rookie contract. They can Franchise him for the 5th year.

    There is also the concept that the defense is good now.
     
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  17. buybuydandavis

    buybuydandavis Well-Known Member

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    Collin says 7 more years. That puts Cooper at 31.
    We dumped Dez at 29. Should have dumped it sooner if we could.

    We got a first round pick for a year and a half, giving up another first round pick for 5 years. Genius.

    And gee, if we're evaluating Dak to think about moving on from him, that 1st round pick sure could come in handy.
     
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  18. brooksey1

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    Tell me Dak had two good games when he throws for 300 yds
     
  19. Roadtrip635

    Roadtrip635 Well-Known Member

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    In the last season and a half, Amari has more games with less than 30yds than over 30 yds. Until he can prove he will show up every week and not just a couple times a year, the trade will be a waste of a pick. Just like Dak he has to prove his worth.
     
  20. 817Gill

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    Not in this situation. See we are on track to be 8-8 and that was the worst case scenario for this year as it puts us in QB purgatory. Without this trade, the coaching staff and Dak would have the “we had no weapons” excuse.

    If we were to go 6-10 or 11-5 we could have a clear picture of Dak and his future. But 8-8 makes things muddy. Now we have 10 games to find out the answer. Best thing is, regardless of the result, we have the most complete roster I’ve seen in the last 10 years. Whoever steps in at Qb will have an o line a great RB and a pretty good Wr corps. This move wasn’t one of the smartest the FO has made in a while.
     

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