Collin rates the young QB'S

[Broges74]

Dak's arm is vastly improved since college. I'd rate it a B arm at this point. When he came out, it was a C. I'd not put it past Dak to improve in every category over the next couple years.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Rated qb's in this order

Wentz
Goff
Watson
Dak

Ouch.

Which is odd because Dak has been better than all of them for 2 years now.....

When it comes to Wentz.....people get caught up that he throws 5 deep bombs and connects on 1 or 2. Which is about the going rate for bombs but that 1 bomb he connects on excites people. I don't get it. You watch these guys play its clear DAk is better than all of them. Right now anyway.

 

[lqmac1]

I disagree with Colin on Wentz being the next Rodgers and I'm not saying that as a knock on Wentz. Rodgers isnt a once in a decade type of quarterback, he's a once in a lifetime type of quarterback. Wentz is good and I think he'll have a bright future, but I think interceptions will be his achilles' heel just because he's a natural gunslinger.

Wentz looks like a rockstar this year, but let's not forget the teams he has faced. They haven't beaten a team with a winning record. Giants, Cardinals, Commanders and Chargers isn't really something you hang on the wall.

 

[Clarkson]

Wentz is not accurate.
He still makes poor decisions too often.
But really, saying he's accurate at this stage is just..inaccurate.
He's got a big arm (the way he can just flick it and make it fly is impressive). He's extremely athletic and is huge. Definitely a leader.
But he still has very obvious short-comings, accuracy being a big one. He's really NOTHING like Aaron Rodgers in the way he plays. Rodgers is and was worlds more accurate and far smarter with the ball.
Wentz is good and will be good. But right now, I wouldn't come close to calling him Rodgers. He throws the ball up too often without knowing where it's going. For his huge arm, his deep ball accuracy isn't good. Dude is getting massively overrated right now. He's already been crowned.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

The same type of hype that Dak finally got after a great rookie preseason and winning 11 straight games, is what is being heaved on Wentz after playing 5 weeks (many against crap teams).

This is a repeat of last year in the sense that the media has to hype up the #1 or #2 pick QB (Wentz in the first 3 weeks) until he proved he was inaccurate, made bad decisions and was clearly outshined/outplayed by 4th rd rookie Dak. The same reason that Andrew Luck still resides in many mediots top-10 QB lists despite not doing anything the past several years. At first, it seems like laziness but, the longer it goes on, it starts to look like no one wants to objectively look at QB's play and instead value their "upside" based on their selection in the draft.

My opinion:
Wentz is a much better scrambler/play-maker when the play breaks down than I thought he would be at the NFL level. He's always had the arm strength (and prototypical size...which is why he was even a consideration for 1st rd), but I still maintain that he doesn't have a natural "touch" with passing (whoever argued with me last time, come at me BRO!) and his lack of decision making is being masked by a west-coast offensive scheme that doesn't rely on him going through progressions on a regular basis. Honestly, watch a single, full game. More than half, if not 75% of his passes are designed to go to his first read. He's not asked to read the field on passing downs. When people downplayed Dak last year due to his supporting cast, at least he was actually playing in an antiquated passing scheme that required him to pick out the open man down after down instead of being the King of screen passes/quick slants/RB dump offs like Wentz.

 

[CATCH17]

We shall see. I don’t think Wentz is necessarily the “better athlete”. Wentz is taller. But Dak is thicker and stronger.

Their scrambling agility and speed are about the same.

Wentz’s arm is stronger but Dak’s is strong enough to make all the throws and make them on the run.

Wentz is better from the pocket thus far. Dak is better on the move.

Both QB’s struggle with the long ball at times and miss open receivers down field. That’s something both guys have to improve on.

Wentz has fumbled a lot so far in his career.

I wanted Wentz bad last year before the eagles trade up happened.

But anybody saying wentz is clearly better than Dak is just speculating because that hasn’t been the case thus far.

Wentz is an elite talent. I've always said this and stand by it. Dak has been better up until this point though.

Even this past Sunday Dak was fantastic.

 

[CATCH17]

Wentz is not accurate.
He still makes poor decisions too often.
But really, saying he's accurate at this stage is just..inaccurate.
He's got a big arm (the way he can just flick it and make it fly is impressive). He's extremely athletic and is huge. Definitely a leader.
But he still has very obvious short-comings, accuracy being a big one. He's really NOTHING like Aaron Rodgers in the way he plays. Rodgers is and was worlds more accurate and far smarter with the ball.
Wentz is good and will be good. But right now, I wouldn't come close to calling him Rodgers. He throws the ball up too often without knowing where it's going. For his huge arm, his deep ball accuracy isn't good. Dude is getting massively overrated right now. He's already been crowned.

Wentz is a more athletic Big Ben imo.

 

[HungryLion]

Wentz is a more athletic Big Ben imo.

Wentz isn’t nearly as muscular and strong as Big Ben.

 

[HungryLion]

Wentz is an elite talent. I've always said this and stand by it. Dak has been better up until this point though.

Even this past Sunday Dak was fantastic.

Wentz is an elite athletic talent. You aren’t taken #2 overall without being an elite athletic talent. Especially when coming from a small school.

Dak is also an elite athlete though, who has gotten stronger and faster since the draft. Anybody who watches Dak play and run in the NFL can tell he is an elite athlete. You don’t do the things he does without being one. He is just shorter than Wentz.

Elite athletic talent is not the most important factor in great QB play though. For either of these guys.

 

[Ken]

We shall see. I don’t think Wentz is necessarily the “better athlete”. Wentz is taller. But Dak is thicker and stronger.

Their scrambling agility and speed are about the same.

Wentz’s arm is stronger but Dak’s is strong enough to make all the throws and make them on the run.

Wentz is better from the pocket thus far. Dak is better on the move.

Both QB’s struggle with the long ball at times and miss open receivers down field. That’s something both guys have to improve on.

Wentz has fumbled a lot so far in his career.

I wanted Wentz bad last year before the eagles trade up happened.

But anybody saying wentz is clearly better than Dak is just speculating because that hasn’t been the case thus far.

Scrambling: Agreed
Arm: Agreed
Pocket: Disagree...and there is no question in my mind that Dak is better and has better pocket awareness.
Ball Security: Dak in a landslide from every angle.

Agreed both are not great downfield passers.

But Dak has been the better quarterback clearly to this point in there careers whether you want to measure including last year or just this year. Dak is also MUCH better when the pressure is on or under pressure. That is what truly seperates qbs and Dak has that as much as anyone in the league.

 

[Mk2_Cowboys]

Who gives a **** what Colin Cow-brain thinks?!?

 

[diefree666]

Who has Wentz played against? Compared to Dak? Goff is worlds better this year but still clearly not as good. Goff is benefiting by team play like Dak did last year.
Dak is going through a bit of a rough period but his QBR is still above 90.

 

[Clarkson]

Wentz is a more athletic Big Ben imo.

i think that's a much better comparison than rodgers. rodgers is an all-time great.

 

[cowboy_ron]

I bash on Wentz alot simply because he's an eagle and I think he'll be a decent NFL QB......on the other hand I'm also very pleased with Dak and what he brings to the Cowboys.

 

[IheartRomo]

Wentz is not accurate.
He still makes poor decisions too often.
But really, saying he's accurate at this stage is just..inaccurate.
He's got a big arm (the way he can just flick it and make it fly is impressive). He's extremely athletic and is huge. Definitely a leader.
But he still has very obvious short-comings, accuracy being a big one. He's really NOTHING like Aaron Rodgers in the way he plays. Rodgers is and was worlds more accurate and far smarter with the ball.
Wentz is good and will be good. But right now, I wouldn't come close to calling him Rodgers. He throws the ball up too often without knowing where it's going. For his huge arm, his deep ball accuracy isn't good. Dude is getting massively overrated right now. He's already been crowned.

This is about the same summary I'd write up. I think he'll be a good QB in the NFL for a while but his accuracy is a genuine problem. He has accuracy issues - that's a fact. I don't see any Rodgers similarities in him whatsoever - think that's just a really poor comparison.

I think his escapability is his best attribute by far right now. It's very Romo-esque but Wentz has a much larger frame to be able to handle the hits that come with it.

 

[ALBIT]

Again who cares who is better. Why are we obsessed with who is better. Wentz is going to be a terrific QB. The eagles are on a roll right now. Good for him. We have Dak. Ok. So who cares who is better. Lets care about just winning games

 

[DCowboyz]

I watched this yesterday morning. I don't think Wentz is the next Rodgers. I also didn't agree that Dak was a B grade, worse than Goff and Watson. They both got a B+. These ratings suck. Last season Wentz would of probably been a B, Goff an F, and Dak A+.

 

[Ken]

I disagree with Colin on Wentz being the next Rodgers and I'm not saying that as a knock on Wentz. Rodgers isnt a once in a decade type of quarterback, he's a once in a lifetime type of quarterback. Wentz is good and I think he'll have a bright future, but I think interceptions will be his achilles' heel just because he's a natural gunslinger.

Wentz looks like a rockstar this year, but let's not forget the teams he has faced. They haven't beaten a team with a winning record. Giants, Cardinals, Commanders and Chargers isn't really something you hang on the wall.

Just like last year.

Then he fell off a cliff. Wait until he plays Denver and Seattle.

 

[Ken]

Collin lost me when he said Watson doesn't have a great arm. He has an absolute cannon. It jumped off the page for me. It is the best arm of all of these qbs and it isn't even close.

 

[AmericanCowboy]

DAK and Wentz seem to be almost the exact same QB this season.

Watching both play remind me of the other.

Their stats this year are nearly identical.

Both are very good.