Columbo / Same hole on 1st AND 2nd Dallas FG in 2nd Qtr

Michael88Irvin

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If you go back and look at our 1st FG with 3:31 left in the 2nd Qtr to go up 9-5 AND the 2nd FG with :07 seconds left in the 2nd Qtr... you will see Columbo make the same move he did on the last FG at the end of the game and the same hole opens up.

My guess is that the Commanders spotted this MAJOR HOLE and advised the sideline coaches and Vincent (at halftime) to be prepared to run through the hole once it opens. And if you think about it, he did RUN through it rather than jump or dive as most do.

They told them to be ready on the next FG attempt... and guess what... the one the got blocked was the next FG attempt!

SO, for Parcells to say that he had never seen Columbo do that before, WE should have spotted that and corrected it!
 

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Good observation. I get the feeling this will be fixed before the Arizona game.
 

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What scares me is that Parcells and his coaching staff never saw him do that before! What tapes are these guys watching?
 

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LeonDixson;1152560 said:
What scares me is that Parcells and his coaching staff never saw him do that before! What tapes are these guys watching?

Parcells said that in his conference, didn't he...man, we better hope he was just not being honest to the media. Otherwise, we have more problems with our coaching staff than some of us already think.
 

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CowboyManDan;1152575 said:
Parcells said that in his conference, didn't he...man, we better hope he was just not being honest to the media. Otherwise, we have more problems with our coaching staff than some of us already think.

Yeah, I think he did.

On the other hand, maybe Columbo hadn't done it in any previous games. I don't know. I've deleted the game from my DVR already (I'm sure I'll see that play a hundred times on ESPN) so I'm just taking Michael88Irvin's word that it happend all three times in this game. No reason to doubt him.

But if he's done this in other games, it's pure negligence on our coaches' part not to have picked it up before this.

Michael88Irvin, do you have access to prior games? Can you check out whether he did this before?
 

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CowboyManDan;1152575 said:
Parcells said that in his conference, didn't he...man, we better hope he was just not being honest to the media. Otherwise, we have more problems with our coaching staff than some of us already think.
Parcells said he had never used that technique before, indicating that he was familiar with his usual technique and that this was different. No worries. Of all Parcells's criticisms, lacking attention to detail is not one of them.
 

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LeonDixson;1152560 said:
What scares me is that Parcells and his coaching staff never saw him do that before! What tapes are these guys watching?


This is an AWFUL group of assitant coaches.
 

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Juke99;1152605 said:
This is an AWFUL group of assitant coaches.

I agree with you Juke. I always disliked Parcells with the Giants, Jets and Patriots, but I had an immense respect for his success and wished we could get him. I never thought we would and was overjoyed when we did. Now, I'm cussing him and his assistants out every game I watch.
 

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Juke99;1152605 said:
This is an AWFUL group of assitant coaches.

That's what I agree with and was trying to say. I'm pro-Parcells, but not the whole staff he currently has.
 

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LeonDixson;1152560 said:
What scares me is that Parcells and his coaching staff never saw him do that before! What tapes are these guys watching?

How many FGs have we had blocked this season? Oh one thats right. Only the Skins would have caught it right? These players for some reason don't think. If Columbo was doing this all the time, it would have been corrected.
 

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Michael88Irvin;1152555 said:
If you go back and look at our 1st FG with 3:31 left in the 2nd Qtr to go up 9-5 AND the 2nd FG with :07 seconds left in the 2nd Qtr... you will see Columbo make the same move he did on the last FG at the end of the game and the same hole opens up.

My guess is that the Commanders spotted this MAJOR HOLE and advised the sideline coaches and Vincent (at halftime) to be prepared to run through the hole once it opens. And if you think about it, he did RUN through it rather than jump or dive as most do.

According to the Washington Post, Danny Smith (ST coach) spotted something on tape and had his guys practice blocked FGs all week.
 

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Juke99;1152605 said:
This is an AWFUL group of assitant coaches.

The same could be said of every coaching staff we have faced so far, they didn't exploit the obvious mistake Columbo has been making all season on FGs.;)
 

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Juke99;1152605 said:
This is an AWFUL group of assitant coaches.
I've said it many times. We need to clean house from A to Z with only a couple of exceptions. More importantly we need a OL coach and a D-Cord who knows how to run a 3-4.
 

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LeonDixson;1152581 said:
But if he's done this in other games, it's pure negligence on our coaches' part not to have picked it up before this.

Michael88Irvin, do you have access to prior games? Can you check out whether he did this before?

Went back and checked the Carolina game (don't think we kicked one in the Giant game)... We had 3 attempts... the first: Columbo did that move to the right, but not nearly as exaggerated and no one came through his side anyway, HOWEVER Fasano on the far right side "Ole'd" his guy who came through and BLOCKED the kick BUT Fox had called Timeout and we got to re-kick.

On the 2nd attempt: Columbo stayed in there (did not move to the right) and blocked his guy (BUT Fasano let his guy come around again - however the guy didn't make it there that time) - We made the kick.

On the 3rd attempt: Columbo did that same move to the right, but as it turned out he was actually blocking someone. (We made the kick)

{Don't have any games Tivo'd earlier than the Giant game}
 

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Bill Parcels can't do everything, the guys upstairs have to pick it up, Bruce Dehaven and Bills coaching hires are suspect on this one yet again.


Bill assistant coaches are making him look bad and they have since he arrived. Bill always had excellent assistants. I'm not sure he has that advantage right now.
 

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I am sure that the coaching staff will shore up the kick blocking this week. Too bad they couldn't have picked up on these discrepancies during the game. That ending still makes me sick to my stomach.
 

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And the kicker (pun intended) is that Aaron Glenn flying in from the kicker's right side diving for the block may have nicked the ball (I replayed it in slo mo) and given it the deflection / or spin back to the left as it was headed wide right. AARON ALMOST GOT THE BLOCK!

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I know things are different in the NFL, and I don't pretend to understand how it's done, but in high school and college, on kicks, isn't everyone taught to make yourself "big" and block towards the center? everyone, and then the wingmen outside of the TE's who are set off the line of scrimmage block anyone coming off the edge, but again, always taking the inside man first? And then if there's a speed guy rushing from outside all that, it's the kicker's job to get the ball off fast enough, right?

I've never heard of a scheme where you'd ask the tackle (Columbo) to block to his outside...who then would block a lb or back coming through the gap to his inside?

I'm more curious than anything...the idea that Witten blocked out when he should have blocked down made more sense to me than Parcells suggestion that it was Columbo who should have blocked Vincent, who rushed between Witten and the OT....certainly Vincent thought it was Witten who should have blocked him.

I'm not questioning Parcells...I'm just wondering how you block for kicks the way he seems to indicate it should have gone....anyone able to explain that to me?
 
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