Commanders... a mammoth disaster in the making

[TOOMBS]

I am so glad that this organization is my most hated. It is so easy to laugh at their every move, and rationalize my extreme dislike.

Let's start off with this joke of a coach. Zorn....... A QB coach hired to be offensive coordinator who is now the head coach because the real desired head coach refused to work for that d-bag Snyder. But wait, wasn't Zorn really the guy they were eyeballing all along?.....sure. This guy knows he has no freaking buisness coaching a pro-football team, but can you blame him for taking the job? It was given to him by defacto........there was simply no one else and the clock was ticking. How good do you think this chump is going to perform in such a dysfunctional organization as his FIRST TIME EVER CALLING PLAYS. DOOM~!

Now let's move to their giant collection of overpaid, no-talent sock-cuckers. It's a shame that the most talented player on their roster died, but that is the kind of dark cloud that tends to hang over this organization. I mean FINALLY they use their first round pick to draft a stud.....finally at long last they have an absolute stud and they actually are getting more than their money's worth for him and he up and dies.

Their line is injury prone, their running back is injury prone, their receivers are WAY below average, their d-line cannot rush the QB other than Carter who is only the 2nd or 3rd best pass-rusher on any other team, their linebackers are
average. Has Springs ever finished a season? Smoot is ... pathetic. Carlos Rodgers is .. kinda a bust. Landry is now the most talented person on defense by far, and on offense the most talented person is?????? Portis is a shell of what he was in Denver and injury prone. I suppose Portis is their best offensive player, but that is pretty sad.

Seriously, am I biased or is this team less talented than other NFC duds such as the Lions, Cardinals, Bucs? Please, someone name me one NFC team with less young talent than the Skins. I would love to know.

What about the draft.....that should turn this ship around! No. Their top 3 picks were 2 receivers, which are historically the biggest gamble and longest payoff in the draft, and a backup tight-end. Sadly, this draft will do absolutely nothing to help them this year.

My prediction........ skins 6 wins on a prayer. Most likely 4 though.

p.s. Don't even get me started on thier borderline ******** QB that got outplayed by a career backup *Collins*

 

[sonnyboy]

I hear you. That franchise is a train wreck. I started an interesting thread on what its like to be a redsucks fan. But it was a little too close to the Rogers tragedy and some of our more sensitive members got their panties in a bunch and had it removed.

 

[sago1]

They maybe all the things you call them. But the reality is they played us tough in both games last year. We barely beat them in the game in Dallas & lost to them in a "don't care" game cause we had nothing on the line. Having said all that, sure would love if they the wheels came off of their wagon. If you read their ExtremeSkins blog, most believe they have a very talented team & if Al Saunders had not been brought to score up their magnificant offense they think the would have added another Lombardi Trophy. Don't know what world these guys live in. When the Cowboys are bad, we know and say they are bad. I guess being a Commanders fans means you have no sense of reality.

 

[2much2soon]

Here, here

10pts extra credit for creative evasion of the language filter

 

[VCDefectors]

The Commanders will be a lot better than 4-12. I can promise you that much. They just might be one of those teams that end up surprising a lot of people. It's way too early to write them off.

That being said, I think it's safe to say that they probably do have more holes (or less overall talent) than the other NFC East teams. To me, they are about a .500 team but will probably swing a couple of games one way or the other (6-10 or 10-6).

 

[TOOMBS]

The Commanders will be a lot better than 4-12. I can promise you that much. They just might be one of those teams that end up surprising a lot of people. It's way too early to write them off.

That being said, I think it's safe to say that they probably do have more holes (or less overall talent) than the other NFC East teams. To me, they are about a .500 team but will probably swing a couple of games one way or the other (6-10 or 10-6).

Thanks for another viewpoint! I was just wondering if you could please name a team in the NFC with less young talent than the Commanders. I've been thinking about it for a while and I just can't seem to figure it out.

thanks

p.s. Maybe 49ers? Bears? ..... that still doesn't sound right

 

[DawnOfANewD]

You probably also ridiculed the Giants last year before the season started. How'd that work out?

 

[pugilist]

TOOMBS for president

 

[dozin_theknick]

I am so glad that this organization is my most hated. It is so easy to laugh at their every move, and rationalize my extreme dislike.

Let's start off with this joke of a coach. Zorn....... A QB coach hired to be offensive coordinator who is now the head coach because the real desired head coach refused to work for that d-bag Snyder. But wait, wasn't Zorn really the guy they were eyeballing all along?.....sure. This guy knows he has no freaking buisness coaching a pro-football team, but can you blame him for taking the job? It was given to him by defacto........there was simply no one else and the clock was ticking. How good do you think this chump is going to perform in such a dysfunctional organization as his FIRST TIME EVER CALLING PLAYS. DOOM~!

Now let's move to their giant collection of overpaid, no-talent sock-cuckers. It's a shame that the most talented player on their roster died, but that is the kind of dark cloud that tends to hang over this organization. I mean FINALLY they use their first round pick to draft a stud.....finally at long last they have an absolute stud and they actually are getting more than their money's worth for him and he up and dies.

Their line is injury prone, their running back is injury prone, their receivers are WAY below average, their d-line cannot rush the QB other than Carter who is only the 2nd or 3rd best pass-rusher on any other team, their linebackers are
average. Has Springs ever finished a season? Smoot is ... pathetic. Carlos Rodgers is .. kinda a bust. Landry is now the most talented person on defense by far, and on offense the most talented person is?????? Portis is a shell of what he was in Denver and injury prone. I suppose Portis is their best offensive player, but that is pretty sad.

Seriously, am I biased or is this team less talented than other NFC duds such as the Lions, Cardinals, Bucs? Please, someone name me one NFC team with less young talent than the Skins. I would love to know.

What about the draft.....that should turn this ship around! No. Their top 3 picks were 2 receivers, which are historically the biggest gamble and longest payoff in the draft, and a backup tight-end. Sadly, this draft will do absolutely nothing to help them this year.

My prediction........ skins 6 wins on a prayer. Most likely 4 though.

p.s. Don't even get me started on thier borderline ******** QB that got outplayed by a career backup *Collins*

Come on, tell us what you really think. Stop *****-footing....

 

[BAZ]

People would of said the same about Wade Phillips before the start of last season. I think the coaching change will help the team, the game had just passed Gibbs by. Giving Portis 500 touches a year was too much. The WC system coming in will help JC and Cooley is a legitimate threat.

The Skins have been playing hard the last few years, I think that and the Giants having a Superbowl hangover, the Eagles going through a big transition period and the rest of the NFC being terrible, they have a good chance to get into the playoffs.

 

[TOOMBS]

You probably also ridiculed the Giants last year before the season started. How'd that work out?

Still waiting for one team with less young talent in the NFC.

 

[JonCJG]

:dissskin:

 

[Boysboy]

The Skins aren't great, obviously, but they're not as bad as they look either.

If anything-Gibbs himself costed them a number of games during his 2nd stint-and yes, hiring Saunders, someone who has a completely different philosophy than him, was also a big mistake.

Saunders, IMHO, would be a perfect fit here b/c our biggest strength is the passing game, but he just didn't mesh with someone who plays old-school offense.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

love to hear neg about the skins

 

[LeonDixson]

Atlanta's cupboard is pretty threadbare. Regardless of what the Skins' overall record is, they always play us pretty tough. I've said it a hundred times; when it comes to the Cowboys/Commanders games you can throw records, team talent and everything else out the window. I don't know if there is a rivalry in football that includes more upset victories between the two teams than this one.

 

[Boysboy]

Atlanta's cupboard is pretty threadbare. Regardless of what the Skins' overall record is, they always play us pretty tough. I've said it a hundred times; when it comes to the Cowboys/Commanders games you can throw records, team talent and everything else out the window. I don't know if there is a rivalry in football that includes more upset victories between the two teams than this one.

Every NFCE matchup will be a barnburner 99% of the time. Even though we beat the Giants twice in the 2 reg season meetings-in all reality, both were alot closer than the double digit scores indicated. In both meetings, they actually botched a number of opportunities that could have blown the games wide open for them.

And if you remember in '05 when McNabb/Westbrook/Tra Thomas went down, and TO got kicked off, the Eagles, despite having puny-armed Mike McMahon under center and some 4th round bust by the name of Ryan Motes carrying the load, they nonetheless played their NFCE opponents tough, despite the losses.

 

[VCDefectors]

Thanks for another viewpoint! I was just wondering if you could please name a team in the NFC with less young talent than the Commanders. I've been thinking about it for a while and I just can't seem to figure it out.

thanks

p.s. Maybe 49ers? Bears? ..... that still doesn't sound right

A team worse than the Commanders in the NFC? Did you see the Falcons play at all last season by chance? What about the Rams?

Listen, I know you are probably just going off on a Commanders hater rant like every Cowboys fan should, right? The tone of your original post came off like that.

Just to be fair, I am a regular over at Extremeskins.com and I have to listen to many idiotic comments from Commanders fans about how our team is overrated and that we won't ever win a playoff game and all kinds of other nonsense. Being in an environment like that causes you to take a look in your own backyard, so to speak. There seems to be a lot of smack and so little gold between the fans of two teams who have basically had the same lack of success since the last Cowboys SB.

I just wanted to share that perspective so you know where I'm coming from.

 

[LeonDixson]

Every NFCE matchup will be a barnburner 99% of the time. Even though we beat the Giants twice in the 2 reg season meetings-in all reality, both were alot closer than the double digit scores indicated. In both meetings, they actually botched a number of opportunities that could have blown the games wide open for them.

And if you remember in '05 when McNabb/Westbrook/Tra Thomas went down, and TO got kicked off, the Eagles, despite having puny-armed Mike McMahon under center and some 4th round bust by the name of Ryan Motes carrying the load, they nonetheless played their NFCE opponents tough, despite the losses.

I agree with that, but I don't think it contradicts what I posted.

 

[Boysboy]

A team worse than the Commanders in the NFC? Did you see the Falcons play at all last season by chance? What about the Rams?

Listen, I know you are probably just going off on a Commanders hater rant like every Cowboys fan should, right? The tone of your original post came off like that.

Just to be fair, I am a regular over at Extremeskins.com and I have to listen to many idiotic comments from Commanders fans about how our team is overrated and that we won't ever win a playoff game and all kinds of other nonsense. Being in an environment like that causes you to take a look in your own backyard, so to speak. There seems to be a lot of smack and so little gold between the fans of two teams who have basically had the same lack of success since the last Cowboys SB.

I just wanted to share that perspective so you know where I'm coming from.

Just FWIW-the Skins will likely start out slow, not bad, but slow, for the reason being that entire team will be adapting to a completely new coaching philosophy for the first time in 4 years. Then afterwards, they should get better and finish the season strongly.

As for Zorn-he comes off as a potentially good coach. And promoting Gregg Williams? Actually-that would have been GOOD for us and the rest of the NFCE? Why? B/c the guy's hardly a decent communicator. We saw this in Buffalo, and he was also the same guy who started that post-ST game by putting only 10 D members on the field, on the first play, WITHOUT telling Gibbs.

As for their draft-yeah, drafting 2 wideouts in a span of 5 or so minutes was a big reach-but you gotta remember the draft is ultimately about getting the best players AVAILABLE, not so much as filling VOIDS immediately.(I believe a number of Zoners here agreed on that)

 

[Eddie]

I bet there's the exact same thread, except titled "Cowboys ... a mammoth disaster in the making" on ES.