Commanders sign Bowen **merged**

[Stash]

Skins drafted more players this year than any year in their entire history.

As to spending in free agency, they were prepared this year more than most teams. They cleared up room last year, during the uncapped year. Smart move on their part.

Until they start winning, everything they do will be criticized.

If they came out and signed 0 players, I'm pretty sure most would have tore into them.

You're likely right.

They're in a position right now where they'd get ripped no matter what they did.

 

[AmishGangsta]

You're likely right.

They're in a position right now where they'd get ripped no matter what they did.

Yeah, they did it to themselves, I'm just not the type to think everything they do is negative.

Chad dukes - local radio host, went off for about 5 hours yesterday because the Skins signed 3 1 year contracts (camp fodder) at receiver.

Didn't once bring up any of the other signings.

Some of the stations/reporters around here have agendas too. Local media is competing with the skins, and it's a propaganda war. One the skins won't win.

JLC is used to be a post beat reporter btw. ; Wilbon/Kornheiser too (see them quite frequently, actually). Too many people in high places, skins shoulda never went to war with their own media members.

 

[dogunwo]

Bowen might be a quality player, but I'd rather not pay huge money for mediocrity. That goes for Spears as well. Either pay a little more for a top guy like Jenkins, or go the quantity route and sign a bunch of low risk 1 year contracts and see who seperates themselves. But don't pay a 3 star player like a 5 star player.

 

[gimmesix]

Makes me wonder if Rob Ryan should have played his cards a little closer to the vest on his high praise for Bowen. I know personally my stock in Bowen went way up on hearing that. Commanders had their ear to the wall on that comment I bet. I forget how that info got leaked out, Rob didn't blurt that out to the media as far as I know, so may not be his fault at all.

I don't know if he was worth 5.5 a year. I know when I heard Canty was signed for that kind of money, I didn't get upset at all as that's too much for Chris. But with Bowen I was really picturing him being a force this season so I'm pissed.

I think a lot of people's stock in Bowen went up based on what Ryan said. Really, though, I never saw reason for him to receive that praise.

He has a good motor, can get reasonable (off and on) pressure on the QB and isn't really stout against the run. I think he's a solid rotation player, but I don't know if I see him as anything more than that.

I'd like more than that from a starting end.

 

[BlueStar22]

I think a lot of people's stock in Bowen went up based on what Ryan said. Really, though, I never saw reason for him to receive that praise.

He has a good motor, can get reasonable (off and on) pressure on the QB and isn't really stout against the run. I think he's a solid rotation player, but I don't know if I see him as anything more than that.

I'd like more than that from a starting end.

Based on what Ryan said but also when he got his opportunities, he made a lot of plays.

 

[gimmesix]

Based on what Ryan said but also when he got his opportunities, he made a lot of plays.

I don't know about that. He was good at getting pressure on the quarterback, but I didn't see him making play after play when he was in there.

I don't want to downplay his value. I liked him as part of the rotation because he could come into the game and you at least knew that he was able to get pressure. But he's just a solid rotational player.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lissemore proves to be a capable replacement because he showed similar ability in the limited playing time he received ... only Lissemore looked like he could be better against the run.

I will say this: I don't think Bowen's production will live up the contract he received.

Just to add some numbers to what I'm saying about Bowen:

He started 9 games, played in all 16, and finished with 22 tackles and 1.5 sacks. Just applying his numbers to his starts, he would have averaged barely over two tackles per game. Some might say that's OK for a 3-4 DE, but remember that Phillips' 3-4 used DEs more like they are used in a 4-3. Ratliff is the one who had to consistently face double-teams, and none of the ends could do enough to draw linemen off of him and the linebackers.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I liked Bowen, I think he's solid, and would have liked to have kept him.

For that price, however, I'm glad he went elsewhere.

That just seems, at least to me, to be too much for him.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I thought they had been pretty good about contracts so far this offseason, but that one seems a little on the high side. I'm glad to have him but that's a bit much for someone with his production.

That's what I feel. I like Bowen, I do. I think he's a really solid player. But I wouldn't have been pleased if we gave him that money.

I liken this situation to Chris Canty a couple years ago. A player I really liked, would have liked to have kept, but certainly not for what the Giants were giving him.

Spears has zero pass rushing moves, Bowen has one of the best bullrushes in the league. Spears is JAG and basically all he's ever gonna be at this point, Bowen has always made the most of his opportunities and was about to get his chance to start this year.

LOL!!!!!

Best bullrushes in the league? LMAO!!!!!

Oh brother.

Bowen was a solid player. Make no mistake. But this is a complete over reaction to another team giving a career back up a nearly 30 million dollar deal.

I don't know the team anything like you guys, but a lot of the Dallas beat reporters are saying it's a pretty serious loss, that he was set to be a starter this year.

I'm not saying the Commanders contract was justified, but he'll be a noticeable loss from what I can tell.

He wasn't going to start and the Dallas reporters were saying he was only because they believed Dallas would sign him and let Spears walk. They did the opposite. They let the back up walk and then turned around and resigned the guy whose our starter, and the guy Bowen never beat out, for less money.

Worked out great for Dallas, IMO.

Would you have panned him in the same way had we re-signed him? Doubtful. Just because he defects to the Skins doesn't make him a bum.

I am not panning him, by any means, but that contract is too high for a career back up.

We got Spears back, whose a better player, especially against the run for us, for almost 10 million dollars less.

So, yeah, the Cowboys made the right move here.