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Is it too late to get in on this action? I tend to frown on taking advantage of the mentally impaired, but hard times and all that...
Is it too late to get in on this action? I tend to frown on taking advantage of the mentally impaired, but hard times and all that...
According to PFF, CW gave up only 1 sack. He improved greatly in his second year.
This guy needs to move from OG to swing tackle. I believe Issac Garcia has the size, strength & athleticism to play LG at high level.
I'm more worried about Center.
Don’t sleep on Biadasz winning the C position and allowing Joe Looney into the mix. Before this season of injuries that guy had a first round grade. Wisconsin just churns out linemen. Very good player. He was the steal of the draft.
Benched? He went to IR in 2019. He was injured early in his last game but they disliked XSF enough to put CW back into the game and he ended up completely blowing out his knee.Not exactly going out on a limb here considering he was benched for XSF.
I think he still probably has the inside track, but it will be interesting to see what McGovern can do there & maybe Looney if they go with Badaiz as center.
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Issac Garcia will be lucky to land on the PS.
IAG has Larry Allen like strength.
I’ll put money on IAG
Benched? He went to IR in 2019. He was injured early in his last game but they disliked XSF enough to put CW back into the game and he ended up completely blowing out his knee.
In 2018 he got injured and was replaced by XSF. He was out for 2 games then returned but didn't start for 2 games. That's likely because he was not 100%.
It was CW not XSF lining up against Aaron Donald in the playoff game and Donald had one of the worst games statistically of his career...
Fan narratives are fun.
CW was playing really well but fans are convinced he is too small and therefore must have sucked.
Fans love La'el now because he looks the part but he made more mistakes in 2019 than CW despite having more experience.
For some reason there is a big fan club for CB Jourdan Lewis. Some fans appear to love him because he has a cocky on-field demeanor. He might be good in the right situation but that is yet to be proven. He was not good last season.
This guy needs to move from OG to swing tackle. I believe Issac Garcia has the size, strength & athleticism to play LG at high level.
I wonder about his hip just because his play dropped off after surgery. Plus he had work on his shoulder. It was just a scope, but his style of play is more upper body. He skipped the combine because of it. That's 2 years in a row hindered by injuries. I could be wrong, but a lot of what makes a lineman successful transitioning into the NFL is the strength and conditioning in the off season. He also had knee injuries.What do you think about biadiaz ?
It is possible that CW wasn’t yet 100%, but I think the prevailing opinion was that he simply lost the job... the OL play markedly improved when CW went down and XSF got his chance. It does seem like CW has improved since that time, but he’s also not been exactly dominant either... remember that this is a guy playing between Fredbeard and Tyron for much of this time, and this could have made him look more improved than he was.
I wonder about his hip just because his play dropped off after surgery. Plus he had work on his shoulder. It was just a scope, but his style of play is more upper body. He skipped the combine because of it. That's 2 years in a row hindered by injuries. I could be wrong, but a lot of what makes a lineman successful transitioning into the NFL is the strength and conditioning in the off season. He also had knee injuries.
The run blocking improved somewhat, but the pass blocking suffered significantly, if I remember correctly. Williams really looked solid before being injured last season. It's been shown via tape and all-22 that a lot of the issues in the middle of the line that were attributed to Williams, were really a result of Beards decreased athleticism. This is not to say it was all Beards fault, or that Williams was perfect, but many here blew his deficiencies out of proportion. He's the second best OL on the team at getting to the next level. He needs to work on his timing a little, and his punch, but he's definitely got the athleticism and work ethic to continue to improve.
I was deeply saddened when Frederick retired. While I respected his choice, man it sucked.Agree but I think some people are thinking it will be a similar transition for him as Travis Frederick because of the college and physical similarities.
Not a knock on Biadasz at all but Frederick was an incredibly bright guy who was elite in recognizing formations, shifts, line calls, etc. He had a 3.97 GPA in Computer Science at Wisconsin (a good school) and that doesn't always translate on the field, but there was a report when he visited Dallas prior to the draft that the coaches kept throwing formations at him and he made the right call every single time. That was before he was even drafted, he was elite in his "on the field intelligence".
Williams had a lot of trouble playing against power DL for most of his rookie year. This is understandable to an extent because as a LT, you don't generally face 300-plus pound men. When he re-entered the starting lineup later that year first because of a brief injury to Martin and then because of one to Su'a-Filo, he was much better at anchoring his base in front of the DL and using good technique to counter power.
Last year, he put on some extra size and continued to play like he did when he re-entered the lineup his rookie years. Pro Bowl-caliber, power DL are always going to give him some trouble, but he wasn't a problem at LG last year.
His competition for the starting LG spot might be Connor McGovern. McGovern is more of a power player but doesn't move as well as Williams. I won't be surprised if Williams ends up being the starting LG with McGovern and Biadasz competing for starting C.
Garcia isn't even in the conversation yet. Would love to see him develop on the practice squad into a find, though. I'm not sure he can even play guard. He doesn't have a real thick lower body and likes to play with a wide stance. Now, that could just be because he's playing left tackle, but lower-body strength/technique is very important at guard.
Connor Williams is a terrible OG, IAG has Quenton Nelson like potential at LG.
He was out for 2 games then returned but didn't start for 2 games. That's likely because he was not 100%.