Continuity? or Best Fit for Circumstances?

[CoCo]

Head Coaches.

Which approach do you favor for the Cowboys?

For example, if Jerry hires the best available HC next offseason, (Gruden, Holmgren, Shanny, & Cowher presumably available) but then Belichek (or whoever you think is the best) becomes available the next year, would you want to make the switch? Then switch again a few years hence when someone else is the hottest thing going?

Or do you favor a consistent identity for the team (a la Landry) who maybe isn't the best (*sacrilege*) year in and year out but overall is very solid?

 

[NextGenBoys]

Head Coaches.

Which approach do you favor for the Cowboys?

For example, if Jerry hires the best available HC next offseason, (Gruden, Holmgren, Shanny, & Cowher presumably available) but then Belichek (or whoever you think is the best) becomes available the next year, would you want to make the switch? Then switch again a few years hence when someone else is the hottest thing going?

Or do you favor a consistent identity for the team (a la Landry) who maybe isn't the best (*sacrilege*) year in and year out but overall is very solid?

I dont want any of those coaches.

I want to be like Denver and Pittsburgh and hire a young coach with fire and passion and be set for the next 10 years.

Not hire another 50 or 60 year old something who is at the end of their career and doesnt have the energy to get hyped up and relate to his players.

Do I have any suggestions? No, but that's why I'm not a GM. It's their job to go out and interview potential candidates. I just know I dont want another 50 or 60 year old head coach.

 

[craig71]

Head Coaches.

Which approach do you favor for the Cowboys?

For example, if Jerry hires the best available HC next offseason, (Gruden, Holmgren, Shanny, & Cowher presumably available) but then Belichek (or whoever you think is the best) becomes available the next year, would you want to make the switch? Then switch again a few years hence when someone else is the hottest thing going?

Or do you favor a consistent identity for the team (a la Landry) who maybe isn't the best (*sacrilege*) year in and year out but overall is very solid?

Continuity is good if you have the right man for the job.

Craig

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm not giving up on this team or this coaching staff. We are 3-2 on the season with a good ways to go

 

[NextGenBoys]

I'm not giving up on this team or this coaching staff. We are 3-2 on the season with a good ways to go

Well put.

I'm not giving up, but I'd be lying to you if I said I dont want another coach next year.

I just dont believe in Wade Phillips' abilities as a head coach.

 

[CaptainMorgan]

We should have been all over Lane Kiffin.However the fact is Jerry runs this team. Does it matter what coach we hire if he is the final authority?If a pet player can bypass the coach whats the point?I think Jerry Jones the owner is the best in the biz but sadly his fingerprints are on every aspect of the team good and bad.

 

[CoCo]

I'm not giving up on this team or this coaching staff. We are 3-2 on the season with a good ways to go

I'm not necessarily advocating to fire Wade etc.

Rather, just trying to understand how many here believe in continuity and how many support the flavor of the month. I don't even need your response to know you are a continuity guy.

Me, I want continuity as well.

 

[Doomsday101]

Well put.

I'm not giving up, but I'd be lying to you if I said I dont want another coach next year.

I just dont believe in Wade Phillips' abilities as a head coach.

It is not important for you to believe in the coaching staff it is the players who need to believe, they will play this season and if this staff and team get it turned around then that is what matters. I don't care if fans are inspired by the staff the players are what matter. I don't know what the outcome will be but I would not count these coaches and players out of it by any means right now. I see some of Wade former players on this team and they do not look as if they lack motivation and are in Dallas in large part because of Wade.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm not necessarily advocating to fire Wade etc.

Rather, just trying to understand how many here believe in continuity and how many support the flavor of the month. I don't even need your response to know you are a continuity guy.

Me, I want continuity as well.

I agree and I think you said it correct when saying flavor of the month. Many coaches who will be praised by fans will be the same coaches thrown under the bus by the same fans tomorrow.

 

[Doomsday101]

We should have been all over Lane Kiffin.However the fact is Jerry runs this team. Does it matter what coach we hire if he is the final authority?If a pet player can bypass the coach whats the point?I think Jerry Jones the owner is the best in the biz but sadly his fingerprints are on every aspect of the team good and bad.

If Jerry did not listen to coaches TO would still be on the team. Jerry runs things but this notion that Jerry does not listen to the input from the staff as any GM in the NFL does is ridicules.

 

[NextGenBoys]

It is not important for you to believe in the coaching staff it is the players who need to believe, they will play this season and if this staff and team get it turned around then that is what matters. I don't care if fans are inspired by the staff the players are what matter. I don't know what the outcome will be but I would not count these coaches and players out of it by any means right now. I see some of Wade former players on this team and they do not look as if they lack motivation and are in Dallas in large part because of Wade.

Lol no **** dude, I'm simply stating my opinion.

I'm not saying the players feel the same way. I'm just saying going off of Wades past record, and what I've seen so far this year, I just dont believe in him as a HC that's all.

I would say the majority of the players do believe in him however. He's their head coach.

 

[Doomsday101]

Lol no **** dude, I'm simply stating my opinion.

I'm not saying the players feel the same way. I'm just saying going off of Wades past record, and what I've seen so far this year, I just dont believe in him as a HC that's all.

I would say the majority of the players do believe in him however. He's their head coach.

If it came off as I was ragging on you I apologize that was not my intent.

Going off Wade past he has a winning record in the NFL and has taken over some pretty bad teams along the way. Yes he is 0-4 in post season but then many coaches has had failure in post season before achieving success. Last time Buffalo went to a playoff Wade was the HC and it took a questionable play to beat them and since then Buffalo has not come close to making the post season.

 

[CaptainMorgan]

If Jerry did not listen to coaches TO would still be on the team. Jerry runs things but this notion that Jerry does not listen to the input from the staff as any GM in the NFL does is ridicules.

I never said he didnt use input from the coaches in his decision making but depending on the coach, that can either be a good or bad thing. I dont know that I have a ton of confidence in Wade's opinion on anything.

 

[windward]

I'm done with guessing who our coach will be in 2010. Let's finish the year and see what happens.

 

[Doomsday101]

I never said he didnt use input from the coaches in his decision making but depending on the coach, that can either be a good or bad thing. I dont know that I have a ton of confidence in Wade's opinion on anything.

You don't play for him. Brookings did and came to Dallas because of Wade even after being offered a contract to stay in Alt. I don't care about the fans feelings about Wade it is the players that matter to me. If Wade fails then he deserves to lose his job if he wins the deserves to keep it. You don't last around 40 years in the NFL because you don't know anything. I trust Wade opinion more than any fickle fan on a message board.

 

[Venger]

To quote a tennis maxim, you never change a winning game, and you always change a losing game.

Continuity is fine if on an appropriate level. Otherwise, it is consistent with "controlled flight into terrain".

 

[CaptainMorgan]

You don't play for him. Brookings did and came to Dallas because of Wade even after being offered a contract to stay in Alt. I don't care about the fans feelings about Wade it is the players that matter to me. If Wade fails then he deserves to lose his job if he wins the deserves to keep it. You don't last around 40 years in the NFL because you don't know anything. I trust Wade opinion more than any fickle fan on a message board.

Who wouldnt want to play for Wade? My 6 year olds soccer coach is more demanding than him.

Im not so sure the players believe in Wade either. This is one of the most uninspired and undisciplined teams to put on the star. With as much talent thats on this roster we shuldnt have to witness that.

If mediocrity was our moto here then Wade would be a perfect fit, unfortunately for him, we expect championships and I dont care if he's been in the league for 100 years his record in the post season speaks for itself.

Now you can continue to dismiss my opinion because Im just some fan on a message board.

 

[ghst187]

Wade is clearly a problem. The talent has been there since he got here thanks to BP. Wade hasn't had to worry about the offense. He hasn't had to do a whole of anything until he took over the defense. His main job to make sure the team was focused, disciplined, and motivated....all of which he failed miserably to do. Had he done any of those, we'd have a ring or at least a few playoff wins by now.
The problem with a young coach is that you're not quite sure what you're getting....McDaniels or Zorn, Mangini or Singletary...Jimmy Johnson or Steve Spurrier....while you know what you're getting with a Holmgren, Shanahan, Gruden, or Cowher. While I've never liked him, i've always appreciated Cowher's fire and ability to motivate his players. I think I most respect Holmgren because he's done it all, took a perennially bad GB team and built a SB winner, built Seattle into a contender, and then (perhaps most impressively) in an injury-riddled lost season was still able to get his guys to play really hard.
I think Holmgren is the sure-fire veteran coach that will bring us a playoff win or two while Shanahan wouldn't be a bad hire either. Hard to see Cowher coming here and i wouldn't want Gruden, overrated imo.
I would've liked to have brought in Capers or Singletary last year or year before as DC. I think its hard to argue with the point production of JG as OC.

 

[Bleu Star]

Perhaps we can throw enough money at Josh McDaniel to start a mutiny in Mile High City.

Hoov does not equal continuity. He equals nonentity.

 

[Future]

I think if you hire a coach, he should get at least 3 years because you won't win championships without continuity. But he has to be the right guy to get it done.

Bill Cowher would solve both for Dallas