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Discussion in 'Coronavirus Zone' started by Kaiser, Mar 20, 2020.

  1. mattjames2010

    mattjames2010 Well-Known Member

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    I have a few friends in Wuhan, I can even post her messages here. Do you have any friends there? While it was bad over a month ago, it's business as usual there now.

    I would advise not getting your information from T-RO or random twitter accounts from now on.
     
  2. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    That's a strange reply. You didn't even contradict what I said, which was just that you don't take those draconian measures because of the flu.

    And I saw those videos with my own eyes. Nobody told me what to think about them.
     
  3. mattjames2010

    mattjames2010 Well-Known Member

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    Again, do you know a single person within Wuhan, you know, ground zero?

    And what "videos" are you referring to? I also saw dopey Twitter users posting videos of the supposed army "moving into" Chicago, that got thousands of likes and retweets but turned out to be pretty routine thing. I also saw photos that were going around, that got retweeted and liked a thousand time of a family that supposedly died from corona in China - turns out, it was a photo from a family that died due to a gas leak a couple years ago.

    Videos need context. You saw a video...that's fantastic, you have working vision. Means nothing.
     
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  4. stiletto

    stiletto Well-Known Member

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    Fear monger! <kidding> It's called #TRUTH
     
  5. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    Lol. Okay. So you know that the vids I've seen are fake or misleading? How could you know that?

    And I'm still trying to figure out what difference having a friend in Wuhan makes anyway. Do you have a friend in northern Italy too?
     
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  6. TheDude

    TheDude McLovin

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    Totally agree. All <45 should return to daily life in a week. Otherwise life as constructed is gone forever
     
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  7. visionary

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    just like @Kaisers non-existent “MD and immunologist” friends who are telling him this is all overblown , LOL
     
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  8. shabazz

    shabazz Well-Known Member

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    Pretty informative video on how China's wet markets make viruses like this possible.

     
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  9. Grenic

    Grenic Well-Known Member

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    This is the problem, China needs to end this and they need to blamed for covering this up for 6 months.
     
  10. shabazz

    shabazz Well-Known Member

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    Agree 100%. and who the heck wants to eat a Pangolin on rye anyway?

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Tabascocat

    Tabascocat Dexternjack Zone Supporter

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    That sucker is gonna need some kraut n swiss! :lmao:
     
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  12. mattjames2010

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    We don’t know that - however you coming in claiming you saw unwavering evidence in your phantom video tells me a lot.

    So this thread has a dude running around like the Sky is falling, we have another making a baseless claim that it’s worse than the swine flu, we have another posting a death rate chart with no context or understanding, and now you

    This thread, and really entire forum section, is full of so much crap. Stop fear mongering. Start thinking rationally.
     
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  13. Boom

    Boom Just Dez It

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    My wife has a relative that teaches there. During the worst of the Wuhan outbreak, she was reporting back that it wasn't bad... she didn't see anyone around where she lived getting quarantined, so it was overblown. I told my wife to tell her that I have never seen crime committed on my drive into work in my entire career, but I know that it still exists. Personal sample sizes don't always reflect an accurate picture of a situation.
     
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  14. mattjames2010

    mattjames2010 Well-Known Member

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    But a single video from randos on the web does lol
     
  15. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    Wow, dude. I've never had a problem with you and I wasn't involved in whatever bickering you had going on in the many pages that preceded my first post in this thread, so I don't know why you started in on me. All I said was that the draconian measures we've seen from China tell me that this virus is much worse than the flu -- a fact that I don't think is even debatable. Surely you aren't claiming otherwise, are you?
     
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  16. shabazz

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    Not stating an opinion on either side of this current debate, but all of China's methods are draconian in comparison to ours. Their economic prowess built off the back of underpaid labor softens their look but they are still North Korea-lite in terms of control of their people and propaganda control.

    If we could weld people doors shut during an outbreak, we'd have lightning fast results as well. As to their testing, who is to speak to the real accuracy......as if quality control issues would ever be reported by their state run media.
     
  17. mattjames2010

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    I don't know how much worse, if at all, it is. Without mass testing, fatality rates are skewed. I argue against the fact that people are basing their opinions off out of context headlines, rando videos online, and misunderstanding of charts. All of which has added to mass hysteria.

    It's a problem. And the dude you responded to initially is running around in here screaming and saying he expects half his family to be "wiped out" by this. It's ridiculous and insane.
     
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  18. BoysForLife

    BoysForLife Well-Known Member

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    Fantastic and accurately stated.

    I live up in Michigan, and the governor just put us under lockdown conditions with another one of these asinine "stay home" orders.
    But, I am very encouraged that she said near the end of her address, that we are allowed to go for a walk as long as I stay at least 6 feet away from others.

    That's very magnanimous of her. I am so thankful that I still live in a country where my elected officials give me permission to go for a walk.

    The hysteria and overreactions by these people has little to do with anything but a crazed lust for more power. They are taking advantage of people's fears to get it. And sadly, people are thinking so illogically that they are willing to give up any liberty, any financial security, pretty much anything at all, if only our government will swoop in and save the day.

    What a shameful time in history. The founding Fathers, if they had the potential to see the future, would have been justified if they all just got drunk and caught the next boat back to England, rather than risk life and limb to birth a nation that has turned into such a bunch of cowards.
     
  19. BoysForLife

    BoysForLife Well-Known Member

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    Spot on.
    The worst thing that Corona virus can do is kill you.

    That is the worst case result.
    What a shame that people are voluntarily giving up their entire lives right out of the gate, based on the "possibility" that they might get sick at some point.
     
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  20. mattjames2010

    mattjames2010 Well-Known Member

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    I put more on the media right now than politicians - they have a ton of support from the public with what they are doing, and in a way, they are just going by the majority opinion. That opinion was formed by media that are getting the most clicks they've gotten since 2016 with sensationalist headlines.

    People will only stay inside for so long - humans are naturally socializing and moving creatures. I expect looting to begin shortly as well.
     

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