Corey White Review

[xwalker]

I had quickly reviewed several of his games after the Saints cut him. My thought at the time was that he is more talented than Sterling Moore.

I decided to review him again on the All-22.

I started with the week 8 game against the Packers. Their passing game is always a challenge and this was a team that Moore struggled with in the playoffs. Since White is basically replacing Moore, I thought this would be a good game to review.

Packers (week 8):
White played outside (not in the slot). He was usually matched up on either Nelson or Adams. The results were very good. He barely gave up anything in terms of completions. What he did give up were short gains on quick throws when he was playing off coverage. The WR he was covering was called for Offensive Pass Interference and he had an INT. The only way he could have been much better would be to have multiple INTs.

Next I decided to see which was the last game that he started. I was trying to find a "bad" game and I thought maybe the reason he was no longer a starter might be because his last start was bad.

Cincinnati (week 11):
Again he played outside (not in the slot). He was often matched up against the big WR AJ Green. Overall he was again quite good. He did give up a 20 yard completion, but that was after the QB held the ball and scrambled around for 7 seconds. He also gave up and 11 yard pass, but that was about the extent of anything significant, IIRC. Again, the WR he was covering was called for Offensive Pass Interference. White forced a fumble that should have prevented a score, but Cinn recovered it.

Summary: That's 2 games and he didn't give up much. The WRs he was covering were twice penalized for OPI and he caused a fumble and had an INT.

He has a thick build like a Safety, but is fast and has decent quickness. He will hit and is a generally a good tackler but I did see a couple of attempted tackles where I thought he should have done better. He appears to have good awareness and understands what he is required to do within the scheme.

I know that some Saints fans complained about him, so I'm sure he must have had some bad games; however, in these 2 games he was good. I didn't review it this time, but I know that he played in the slot week 1 and probably some other games early in the season. My guess is that when the fans complained about him it may have been when he played the slot.

I feel like I must be missing something because he seemed to be too good to have been cut.

It is always odd when a player is cut in the April time frame because it's the time of year when the roster limit is 90. How does a player go from starting 9 games to not good enough to be on the 90 man roster? The Saints were making some odd moves about that time with the trade of their QBs favorite target Jimmy Graham and they doubled-up on RBs for a significant amount of money.

Corey White
Height: 5114
Weight: 206
40 Yrd Dash: 4.39
20 Yrd Dash: 2.39
10 Yrd Dash: 1.60
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 15
Vertical Jump: 38 1/2
Broad Jump: 10'02"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.20
3-Cone Drill: 6.72

 

[gimmesix]

Go back and focus on him in our game against the Saints. He was pretty bad in that one.

His coverage of Terrence Williams was very loose, which allowed Williams to eat him up.

 

[jday]

I had quickly reviewed several of his games after the Saints cut him. My thought at the time was that he is more talented than Sterling Moore.

I decided to review him again on the All-22.

I started with the week 8 game against the Packers. Their passing game is always a challenge and this was a team that Moore struggled with in the playoffs. Since White is basically replacing Moore, I thought this would be a good game to review.

Packers (week 8):
White played outside (not in the slot). He was usually matched up on either Nelson or Adams. The results were very good. He barely gave up anything in terms of completions. What he did give up were short gains on quick throws when he was playing off coverage. The WR he was covering was called for Offensive Pass Interference and he had an INT. The only way he could have been much better would be to have multiple INTs.

Next I decided to see which was the last game that he started. I was trying to find a "bad" game and I thought maybe the reason he was no longer a starter might be because his last start was bad.

Cincinnati (week 11):
Again he played outside (not in the slot). He was often matched up against the big WR AJ Green. Overall he was again quite good. He did give up a 20 yard completion, but that was after the QB held the ball and scrambled around for 7 seconds. He also gave up and 11 yard pass, but that was about the extent of anything significant, IIRC. Again, the WR he was covering was called for Offensive Pass Interference. White forced a fumble that should have prevented a score, but Cinn recovered it.

Summary: That's 2 games and he didn't give up much. The WRs he was covering were twice penalized for OPI and he caused a fumble and had an INT.

He has a thick build like a Safety, but is fast and has decent quickness. He will hit and is a generally a good tackler but I did see a couple of attempted tackles where I thought he should have done better. He appears to have good awareness and understands what he is required to do within the scheme.

I know that some Saints fans complained about him, so I'm sure he must have had some bad games; however, in these 2 games he was good. I didn't review it this time, but I know that he played in the slot week 1 and probably some other games early in the season. My guess is that when the fans complained about him it may have been when he played the slot.

I feel like I must be missing something because he seemed to be too good to have been cut.

It is always odd when a player is cut in the April time frame because it's the time of year when the roster limit is 90. How does a player go from starting 9 games to not good enough to be on the 90 man roster? The Saints were making some odd moves about that time with the trade of their QBs favorite target Jimmy Graham and they doubled-up on RBs for a significant amount of money.

Corey White
Height: 5114
Weight: 206
40 Yrd Dash: 4.39
20 Yrd Dash: 2.39
10 Yrd Dash: 1.60
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 15
Vertical Jump: 38 1/2
Broad Jump: 10'02"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.20
3-Cone Drill: 6.72

Nice review Walker. I think he will do well in this scheme and am looking forward to the competition between him and Byron Jones. Granted, Byron likely has 3rd CB locked up, considering where he was drafted, but that doesn't mean White won't do what he can to make the Cowboys think twice...which should lead to some high-spirited play throughout training camp and preseason (not to mention Claiborne who has one season to prove his worth).

 

[guag]

Good stuff x as always. Maybe there's something the Saints know about him that isn't publicly known. I'm not going to get too excited yet, but could you imagine if our eventual replacement for Carr is already on the roster in White? I could see Jones, White, and Scandrick in the slot doing well if White is what he appears to be. But then again I'd like one of either Jones or White to be a safety if possible. I'll trust that the coaches will play each player at the position they play best.

 

[frickster]

Rob Ryan's defense is always hard on defensive backs. I think he will do just fine.

 

[Kaiser]

The coaches keep talking up the position flex with White and Byron Jones, I really like the idea that our defense can give reps to the DBs more toward pass protection (Jones and White at S), more toward run defense (Jones and White at CB with Wilcox and Church at S) or some mix of the two. They can also move guys like White or Jones into slot positions in the nickel if they are facing the bigger WRs that have eaten them up in the last couple of seasons.

 

[guag]

The coaches keep talking up the position flex with White and Byron Jones, I really like the idea that our defense can give reps to the DBs more toward pass protection (Jones and White at S), more toward run defense (Jones and White at CB with Wilcox and Church at S) or some mix of the two. They can also move guys like White or Jones into slot positions in the nickel if they are facing the bigger WRs that have eaten them up in the last couple of seasons.

One of the benefits of having smart players. They're able to play multiple positions well and without getting overwhelmed. I can see this giving us a bit of advantage when it comes to the number of different combinations of personnel we can put on the field on an given play. Also consider we have a number of linebackers who are capable of playing multiple (or all) LB spots.

Of course, I'm sure the fact that Marinelli's system is relatively simple makes it easier for players to step in at different positions. But I wonder if other teams have the sort of versatility on all 3 levels of the defense that we have.

Another benefit of these "position-flexible" guys is that we might be able to go short/long at certain positions depending on the circumstances. For instance, I think we'll go short at DT and safety and longer at DE and CB. Just lots of possibilities.

 

[CCBoy]

Thanks, X. I'm well pleased to have the prospects of White in some of the packages. The starters should be strong out of the gate.

 

[perrykemp]

I had quickly reviewed several of his games after the Saints cut him. My thought at the time was that he is more talented than Sterling Moore.

I decided to review him again on the All-22.

I started with the week 8 game against the Packers. Their passing game is always a challenge and this was a team that Moore struggled with in the playoffs. Since White is basically replacing Moore, I thought this would be a good game to review.

Packers (week 8):
White played outside (not in the slot). He was usually matched up on either Nelson or Adams. The results were very good. He barely gave up anything in terms of completions. What he did give up were short gains on quick throws when he was playing off coverage. The WR he was covering was called for Offensive Pass Interference and he had an INT. The only way he could have been much better would be to have multiple INTs.

Next I decided to see which was the last game that he started. I was trying to find a "bad" game and I thought maybe the reason he was no longer a starter might be because his last start was bad.

Cincinnati (week 11):
Again he played outside (not in the slot). He was often matched up against the big WR AJ Green. Overall he was again quite good. He did give up a 20 yard completion, but that was after the QB held the ball and scrambled around for 7 seconds. He also gave up and 11 yard pass, but that was about the extent of anything significant, IIRC. Again, the WR he was covering was called for Offensive Pass Interference. White forced a fumble that should have prevented a score, but Cinn recovered it.

Summary: That's 2 games and he didn't give up much. The WRs he was covering were twice penalized for OPI and he caused a fumble and had an INT.

He has a thick build like a Safety, but is fast and has decent quickness. He will hit and is a generally a good tackler but I did see a couple of attempted tackles where I thought he should have done better. He appears to have good awareness and understands what he is required to do within the scheme.

I know that some Saints fans complained about him, so I'm sure he must have had some bad games; however, in these 2 games he was good. I didn't review it this time, but I know that he played in the slot week 1 and probably some other games early in the season. My guess is that when the fans complained about him it may have been when he played the slot.

I feel like I must be missing something because he seemed to be too good to have been cut.

It is always odd when a player is cut in the April time frame because it's the time of year when the roster limit is 90. How does a player go from starting 9 games to not good enough to be on the 90 man roster? The Saints were making some odd moves about that time with the trade of their QBs favorite target Jimmy Graham and they doubled-up on RBs for a significant amount of money.

Corey White
Height: 5114
Weight: 206
40 Yrd Dash: 4.39
20 Yrd Dash: 2.39
10 Yrd Dash: 1.60
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 15
Vertical Jump: 38 1/2
Broad Jump: 10'02"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.20
3-Cone Drill: 6.72

Thanks for the analysis. Good read.

5-11, 206 lb with 4.39 speed. His measurables, at least on paper, are eye-popping.

 

[sideon]

I trust Marinelli to get more out of him and find the right spot for him, Rob is a very overrated DC and his players are always put in bad spots.

 

[xwalker]

Go back and focus on him in our game against the Saints. He was pretty bad in that one.

His coverage of Terrence Williams was very loose, which allowed Williams to eat him up.

Like I said originally, I know he must have had some bad games based on some comments I've seen from some Saints fans: however, in these 2 games that I reviewed he was good. I'll review some more games later.

 

[Stash]

I had quickly reviewed several of his games after the Saints cut him. My thought at the time was that he is more talented than Sterling Moore.

I decided to review him again on the All-22.

I started with the week 8 game against the Packers. Their passing game is always a challenge and this was a team that Moore struggled with in the playoffs. Since White is basically replacing Moore, I thought this would be a good game to review.

Packers (week 8):
White played outside (not in the slot). He was usually matched up on either Nelson or Adams. The results were very good. He barely gave up anything in terms of completions. What he did give up were short gains on quick throws when he was playing off coverage. The WR he was covering was called for Offensive Pass Interference and he had an INT. The only way he could have been much better would be to have multiple INTs.

Next I decided to see which was the last game that he started. I was trying to find a "bad" game and I thought maybe the reason he was no longer a starter might be because his last start was bad.

Cincinnati (week 11):
Again he played outside (not in the slot). He was often matched up against the big WR AJ Green. Overall he was again quite good. He did give up a 20 yard completion, but that was after the QB held the ball and scrambled around for 7 seconds. He also gave up and 11 yard pass, but that was about the extent of anything significant, IIRC. Again, the WR he was covering was called for Offensive Pass Interference. White forced a fumble that should have prevented a score, but Cinn recovered it.

Summary: That's 2 games and he didn't give up much. The WRs he was covering were twice penalized for OPI and he caused a fumble and had an INT.

He has a thick build like a Safety, but is fast and has decent quickness. He will hit and is a generally a good tackler but I did see a couple of attempted tackles where I thought he should have done better. He appears to have good awareness and understands what he is required to do within the scheme.

I know that some Saints fans complained about him, so I'm sure he must have had some bad games; however, in these 2 games he was good. I didn't review it this time, but I know that he played in the slot week 1 and probably some other games early in the season. My guess is that when the fans complained about him it may have been when he played the slot.

I feel like I must be missing something because he seemed to be too good to have been cut.

It is always odd when a player is cut in the April time frame because it's the time of year when the roster limit is 90. How does a player go from starting 9 games to not good enough to be on the 90 man roster? The Saints were making some odd moves about that time with the trade of their QBs favorite target Jimmy Graham and they doubled-up on RBs for a significant amount of money.

Corey White
Height: 5114
Weight: 206
40 Yrd Dash: 4.39
20 Yrd Dash: 2.39
10 Yrd Dash: 1.60
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 15
Vertical Jump: 38 1/2
Broad Jump: 10'02"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.20
3-Cone Drill: 6.72

Thanks for your efforts!

Early reports on White have been quite good. He seems like a nice 'utility player' for the secondary. I was surprised when they didn't keep Sterling Moore around, but the reports on White made me feel a lot better about it.

I think with both he and Byron Jones added to the mix, this secondary's versatility and flexibility has greatly increased.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

I could've sworn I saw that he was 6'1". That's why I was getting excited. It seemed like we were finally trying to establish an identity. Tall, fast, versatile DBs.

 

[gimmesix]

Like I said originally, I know he must have had some bad games based on some comments I've seen from some Saints fans: however, in these 2 games that I reviewed he was good. I'll review some more games later.

I understand that ... that's why I was pointing out one of his bad ones that I recently got through rewatching.

Moore had some bad games, too, although he was good against NO.

White seemed very passive in this game, which might have been a result of the scheme. The Saints left him on an island early in the game and he couldn't handle it.

 

[ghst187]

Rob Ryan's defense is always hard on defensive backs. I think he will do just fine.

Rob Ryan is a horrible DC, he had DWare dropping into coverage half the time...so yeah I think there's a good chance we found a hidden gem with some talent and skills who can help us.

 

[guag]

I could've sworn I saw that he was 6'1". That's why I was getting excited. It seemed like we were finally trying to establish an identity. Tall, fast, versatile DBs.

Wikipedia and NFL.com have him at 6'1". DC.com says 5'11". In fact every other source except DC.com has him at 6'1". In any case, 5'11" isn't terrible. After all, it's not about the size of the tool, but how you use it.

 

[xwalker]

Go back and focus on him in our game against the Saints. He was pretty bad in that one.

His coverage of Terrence Williams was very loose, which allowed Williams to eat him up.

OK, I have reviewed the Dallas-NO game from week 4 of 2014. Here are the negative plays:

1. White plays off coverage with a big cushion. There is 1 Safety in the middle of the field. White plays leverage to force TWilliams inside. (TWilliams 15 yards)

2. White plays off coverage with no deep help. Harris 8 yard catch. There really can't be any other result when playing this far off in coverage.

3. Press coverage, no help, TWilliams with tight split and 2 way go, Romo with time, Touchdown. White is in a trail position and help is late getting over. (TWilliams 6 yards).

4. White plays off with a big cushion. He has no help. One Safety is in the box to defend the run and the other Safety is on the other side of the field to double Dez. White played the coverage correctly, but missed the tackle.

It is interesting to watch the Cowboys from the perspective of the opponents defense. Linehan schooled Rob Ryan in this game. Ryan decided to defend the run and double Dez often leaving White to cover TWilliams or Harris with no help. White played off coverage with an extra big cushion. The Saints were basically conceding underneath throws to Williams/Harris in these situations. On the TD to TWilliams, White played the correct technique, but without help it would be very difficult for him to make that play. Romo had the ball for about 5 seconds. Again, the help was focused on Dez and defending the run.

My only complaints about White were that he missed a tackle on TWilliams and I thought maybe he should have bumped Williams on the TD play; although, I don't know their coaching allows for a bump on that play or not. I think the big cushions in off coverage were just part of the scheme and there was not much White could do in terms of preventing the catches while playing with that much cushion. This was week 4. In the week 8 and week 11 games that I reviewed he often played tighter coverage in similar situations with good results.

 

[xwalker]

Rob Ryan is a horrible DC, he had DWare dropping into coverage half the time...so yeah I think there's a good chance we found a hidden gem with some talent and skills who can help us.

He also had DWare read and react before rushing the passer. I hated seeing Ware delay his pass rush in the read and react mode.

 

[xwalker]

I could've sworn I saw that he was 6'1". That's why I was getting excited. It seemed like we were finally trying to establish an identity. Tall, fast, versatile DBs.

He matched up well against big WRs like AJ Green. He is thick and probably has good arm length. The 38-1/2" vert also helps.

The Cowboys have him listed at 6-1, 210.

 

[xwalker]

Good stuff x as always. Maybe there's something the Saints know about him that isn't publicly known. I'm not going to get too excited yet, but could you imagine if our eventual replacement for Carr is already on the roster in White? I could see Jones, White, and Scandrick in the slot doing well if White is what he appears to be. But then again I'd like one of either Jones or White to be a safety if possible. I'll trust that the coaches will play each player at the position they play best.

Yes, when a player is cut in April, it's normally because he did something that irritated the team; although, the Saints did seem to be scrambling for cap space right at the time he was cut.

The Cowboys cut some players in April/May like the OL Hawkins. They kept Hawkins on the 53 last season and then cut him in the April/May time frame. That can't be because they suddenly decided he can't play. I assume that Hawkins probably came in out of shape or something like that.

It's possible that White did something as simple as not adhering to the Saints off-season program to their satisfaction.