Corner technique I may be wrong but

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  1. Ring6

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    I rarely see Chido or Byron turn their heads around when the ball is in the air. They tend to challenge the ball once the receiver has it in body range instead.

    I could be wrong, if they do it, someone correct me, wouldn't be the first time. But if true, is this a coaching point, a technique purposely done? Maybe to not lose a receiver in a route? Or is this something that they just do not have confidence to do?

    I get nervous that they will draw flags doing this, and it does explain lack of interceptions.

    But they still have been doing well using this technique, I just find myself yelling "turn your head" every time the ball is in the air. I know, easier said than done.
     
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  2. Praxit

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    ...me to bro. That scares the daylights out of me. The probabilities go up for flag, when the defender doesn't turn around. Hate to say it, but that chicken **** when you dont turn your head.
     
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  3. CF74

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    Bend but don’t break defense techniques..
     
  4. SoupcanSam

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    The baffling thing is that is not what either were doing the beginning of the season. Richard coaches them to watch the WR's body language and eyes then turn their heads pending.

    As the season has went our CB's have become a little sloppy, esp byron, giving up TD's late in the season.
     
  5. northerncowboynation

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    It concerns me that we gave up over 400 yards passing against the Bucs and Giants. I think we caught a break with the Seattle OC sticking with the run and not airing it out with Wilson. We have to limit the big plays by the Rams
     
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  6. SoupcanSam

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    The excuse for that in 14 and 16 was that we didnt have the talent on defense. We have twice the talent now and these guys are starting to show signs of laziness now.
     
  7. cern

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    they turn early and see the ball. then cover the receiver and watch his eyes. Byron turns more than chido. what is amazing, is the majority of catches made against chido have been outstanding catches. the coverage couldn't have been much better. it happens.
     
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  8. Ring6

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    If you saw them turning their heads at the beginning of the season, then I stand corrected at least a bit. I haven't seen it all season. And, it seems to be working, so you could say "why change now".

    But to me its flirting with disaster - Flags, as Praxit points out. Plus, lack of interceptions, which are needed as playoff teams get more difficult to get past.
     
  9. Ring6

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    I don't have all 22 so I probably miss what you're talking about turning early and seeing the ball. I only see broadcast, and very rarely (can't even remember one, although I'm sure it exists) head turn. Of course, I'm talking man coverage only. This whole discussion is moot if we're talking zone.
     
  10. Ring6

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    Point of clarification - I'm talking about man coverage in the OP.
     
  11. Praxit

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    ..so true. Wilson threw some balls in areas, not even the best could defend.
     
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  12. cern

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    they have to see the ball early in order to determine whether or not the receiver they're carrying is actually target or not. but if you get to see the whole play, you'll see them turn early.
     
  13. The Natural

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    They’re just falling back on old (bad) habits. Its not at all what Richard was teaching them over the summer, go back and look and look at the videos if you dont believe me.
     
  14. tm1119

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    I think it’s more rare than you think...not
    saying it can’t be done, but a cb that can both play tight man coverage and make plays on the ball will be elite and very expensive. Byron is actually tied for 5th most with 14 passes defended on the season. Chido wasn’t too far behind with 12.
     
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  15. CowboysFaninHouston

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    well, Byron jones to CB was novel and by mid season they had a lot of tape to watch and started to figure him out a bit and started to figure out the defense. so it doesn't surprise me.....
     
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  16. CF74

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    Our best playmaking corner (Lewis) is on the bench because he’s an inch too short.. Coaches have their templates and it’s pure stubbornness imo...
     
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  17. jrumann59

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    Same against Byron, a lot of sideline toe tapping catches where the pass is pretty much perfect. Though Byron has had a few lost the guy in coverage issues
     
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  18. SoupcanSam

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    Our CB's get away with alot of faceguarding also, which I think would have been a penalty last season.
     
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  19. SoupcanSam

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    Richard and the Lewis situation will always bother me. I am a big fan of lewis
     
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  20. Dre11

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    It's on the Cb, if the corner is beat, they can't loose sight of the wr, so they're taught to just throw their hands up when the wr extends for the ball, if they're in good coverage you're suppose to turn for the ball when the Wr turns, or his eyes start to get big. I'm sure they're suppose turn, but they don't once beat in trail technique because they don't want to lose sight of the wr.
     
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