Could Tucker be our next LG?

[DLCassidy]

I know I was not too happy watching him at LT. He made Flo look like Walter Jones. But we've invested a lot of time in this guy. He did play guard in college.

We would save 3.5m in cap space next year if we cut LA. I'm not an LA basher but it has to end some time and even though he was our best OL man this year that's like saying he's the prettiest pig at the slaughterhouse. Do we wait until he's going out there with a walker or cut the cord now? Would Tucker be a decent starter at LG?

 

[Zman5]

I wrather we cut Rivera before we cut LA.

 

[Kangaroo]

I know I was not too happy watching him at LT. He made Flo look like Walter Jones. But we've invested a lot of time in this guy. He did play guard in college.

We would save 3.5m in cap space next year if we cut LA. I'm not an LA basher but it has to end some time and even though he was our best OL man this year that's like saying he's the prettiest pig at the slaughterhouse. Do we wait until he's going out there with a walker or cut the cord now? Would Tucker be a decent starter at LG?

LA needs to go Rivera is to expensive to be cut and yes Tucker would be better at guard than tackle

LA was not are best linemen he was the bast pass blocker but was a major liablity in the run game and a big reason it struggled along with AL

 

[Kilyin]

You know, of all the problems GB had this year, their OL wasn't really one of them. They lost Rivera and Wahle and didn't really miss a beat, the injuries just killed that team in the end. Rivera is overrated, and all season long I heard excuses about his lingering "treadmill injury". He had a minor surgery on his back before training camp. There is no injury, Rivera is what he is, and that's a big mouth with little production.

 

[ddh33]

I do think Parcells likes him, but after some of the problems this year (again), I wonder if he's completely out of patience?

I do think that Tucker would be a better guard than tackle though.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You know, of all the problems GB had this year, their OL wasn't really one of them. They lost Rivera and Wahle and didn't really miss a beat, the injuries just killed that team in the end. Rivera is overrated, and all season long I heard excuses about his lingering "treadmill injury". He had a minor surgery on his back before training camp. There is no injury, Rivera is what he is, and that's a big mouth with little production.

do you ever have anything positive to say?

 

[Kilyin]

do you ever have anything positive to say?

Occasionally...

I know, I know, Bledsoe will get us to the Superbowl... next year. It's always next year.

 

[baj1dallas]

You know, of all the problems GB had this year, their OL wasn't really one of them. They lost Rivera and Wahle and didn't really miss a beat, the injuries just killed that team in the end. Rivera is overrated, and all season long I heard excuses about his lingering "treadmill injury". He had a minor surgery on his back before training camp. There is no injury, Rivera is what he is, and that's a big mouth with little production.

What makes you say their OL wasn't a problem? It was terrible this year especially early in the season.

 

[Kilyin]

What makes you say their OL wasn't a problem? It was terrible this year especially early in the season.

It was by no means terrible. Look at all the injuries and backs that got plugged in and ran with that line after it was pilfered in the offseason. A practice squad guy in Samkon Gado put up almost 600 yards and 6 TDs behind that line until he got ate by the injury bug, and Favre was only sacked 24 times. That is a hell of alot better than what we were putting on the field. The OL didn't throw 29 interceptions.

 

[Dhop]

I know I was not too happy watching him at LT. He made Flo look like Walter Jones. But we've invested a lot of time in this guy. He did play guard in college.

We would save 3.5m in cap space next year if we cut LA. I'm not an LA basher but it has to end some time and even though he was our best OL man this year that's like saying he's the prettiest pig at the slaughterhouse. Do we wait until he's going out there with a walker or cut the cord now? Would Tucker be a decent starter at LG?

I'm not sure what to do with LA, but I've always thought we should move Tucker back to guard. Weird thing is, during a press conference someone asked Parcells about this and said something about it being his natural position, and Parcells said to his knowledge Tucker had always been a tackle or something like that. Thought that was strange.

 

[Eskimo]

Tucker has always been a misfit at OT - he just doesn't have the "feet" to play the position. He is a powerful guy head-on with good long range speed for pulling which makes him a natural guard. I don't know if he has the football smarts to play guard, though.

 

[Eskimo]

The issue with Rivera is economics. His salaries are quite reasonable but he was given a gigantic bonus which makes it financially more reasonable to keep him next year and see if his play improves with a year of conditioning and hopefully a new OL coach.

LA needs to go because he is way overpaid and we could probably find a better replacement with the cap savings we would reap from cutting him (his cap figure next year is $7.5M, cap savings of $3.5M if he is cut before his roster bonus in April).

 

[conner01]

getting rid of l.a. saves you 3.5 mil. show me a better guy for 3.5 mil, cutting rivera cost 8 or 9 mil, not really an option.we will be adding to the oline, not cutting. we need depth and guys like rob, and andre are decent depth.find a rt option,get flo back, rivera gets 100% healthy in the offseason,al adds some strength and we get another optiion at each spot so if one does'nt work the next will.

 

[Wolverine]

I know I was not too happy watching him at LT. He made Flo look like Walter Jones. But we've invested a lot of time in this guy. He did play guard in college.

We would save 3.5m in cap space next year if we cut LA. I'm not an LA basher but it has to end some time and even though he was our best OL man this year that's like saying he's the prettiest pig at the slaughterhouse. Do we wait until he's going out there with a walker or cut the cord now? Would Tucker be a decent starter at LG?

If we cut anyone I would rather it be Rivera. He sucks!

Allen is still OK but I think Tucker could do alot better at G then Rivera.

 

[The30YardSlant]

If we cut anyone I would rather it be Rivera. He sucks!

Allen is still OK but I think Tucker could do alot better at G then Rivera.

Rivera's left shoe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tucker

 

[Wolverine]

Rivera's left shoe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tucker

As usual you have no idea what you are talkin about. Tucker was a guard in college. He never played LT before. It would not be hard for Tucker or Gurode to beat out Rivera if BP lets them go for it. Rivera is a joke. Between him Johnson and Pettiti it is hard to say who is the worse of them all they are so bad.

 

[DLCassidy]

You know, of all the problems GB had this year, their OL wasn't really one of them. They lost Rivera and Wahle and didn't really miss a beat, the injuries just killed that team in the end. Rivera is overrated, and all season long I heard excuses about his lingering "treadmill injury". He had a minor surgery on his back before training camp. There is no injury, Rivera is what he is, and that's a big mouth with little production.

False. They went from 3rd to 18th in total offense and 5th to 22nd in scoring offense. And Brett Favre went from 10th in passer rating to 32nd. The OL was a major problem.

And are you privy to inside info on Rivera's back? Didn't think so. Back's are tricky things and there's really no such thing as "minor" back surgery. Rivera was not a huge problem for us. He gave up 3.25 sacks. No, he wasn't close to the Pro Bowler we thought we were getting but I have hope that he will do better next year with a full offseason to build up strength.

 

[DLCassidy]

I'm not sure what to do with LA, but I've always thought we should move Tucker back to guard. Weird thing is, during a press conference someone asked Parcells about this and said something about it being his natural position, and Parcells said to his knowledge Tucker had always been a tackle or something like that. Thought that was strange.

Yeah, I heard that. BP doesn't seem to like moving guys once he's got them at a certain position. He had no choice really but to try Tucker at LT and then talked about how he should have tried him there sooner. Tucker has some phyical talent, not so sure how much gray matter he's blessed with.

But I think we can all agree that the OL is going to be the subject of major, major discussions about every guy at every position. It has to be. Tucker can't be considered for a move inside until we upgrade our depth at tackle. I expect that to be addressed in the first round of the draft.

 

[Kilyin]

False. They went from 3rd to 18th in total offense and 5th to 22nd in scoring offense. And Brett Favre went from 10th in passer rating to 32nd. The OL was a major problem.

And you blame the OL for this? Laughable, hey how about blaming the fact that they were on their 6th string running back, had one recognizable WR left, and had lost over half the team to injuries. Favre's rating dropped because he threw 29 interceptions trying to force throws, not because of the OL.

Rivera was not a huge problem for us. He gave up 3.25 sacks.

He didn't need to give up alot of sacks, the Tackles had that covered. He had 9 penalties and wasn't really even an upgrade to Gurode. Coincidence that the one game he didnt start, we actually ran for 200 yards?

 

[DLCassidy]

getting rid of l.a. saves you 3.5 mil. show me a better guy for 3.5 mil, cutting rivera cost 8 or 9 mil, not really an option.we will be adding to the oline, not cutting. we need depth and guys like rob, and andre are decent depth.find a rt option,get flo back, rivera gets 100% healthy in the offseason,al adds some strength and we get another optiion at each spot so if one does'nt work the next will.

Truthfully Steve Hutchinson won't likely have a cap # of more than 3.5m in the first year of a new contact. NFL contracts are backloaded in most cases on the salary, and the bonus can be prorated over 4 years. If you gave someone a 10m bonus and 1st year salary of 1m that would equate to a 3.5m 1st year cap #. In year 2 maybe it goes up a little but at that point LA's off the books. It could be done rather easily. The trick is finding and attracting the right replacement, if there is one. I can't see Seattle letting Hutch go, they have lots of cap space.