Could Tucker become a "super sub"?

[DLCassidy]

With Adams back at LT next year, Tucker goes to the bench. But he's looked decent at LT, and he played guard in college. Could he be the 1st backup for LT and both guard positions?

We haven't really seen Peterman on the field so I'm not writing him off yet but Tucker has shown he can be a servicable player. If he knows he's not the starter we could get him reps in camp at both T and G.

I assume we may look at FA for an upgrade at center (Mawae?) and we use an early draft pick on a LT. Petitti will get an offseason to get stronger and should compete with Columbo at RT.

I think we would keep Johnson and release Gurode and Price.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

I said earlier in the year that Adams going down is a blessing in disguise if he comes back healthy next year.

Tucker will be one of the most experienced back up OTs in the league next year and probably one of the best.

Say what you will, but the Giants are where they are today because of their OL injuries two years ago. It got some youngsters some valuable experience that's really paying off now that they're reasonably healthy and have some weapons at skill positions.




I don't think Tucker will back up at OG unless there's an injury early and he has a couple of weeks to prepare to take over. A in-game injury would see someone else being used as a replacement.

 

[Wolverine]

I would much rather see Tucker challenge Rivera for the guard spot. Someone in here said that Tucker was a very good guard in college. I think he would be able to beat out that ancient has been Rivera pretty easy.

 

[Kangaroo]

I would much rather see Tucker challenge Rivera for the guard spot. Someone in here said that Tucker was a very good guard in college. I think he would be able to beat out that ancient has been Rivera pretty easy.

Wolverine what I have tracked of the oline Play Rivera is better than Allen so I would say Allen needs to replaced not Rivera

Allen has been one of the main culprits in the running game sucking noe rivera

 

[DLCassidy]

Tucker is not better than either Allen or Rivera. Let's not get carried away here. But I do think he could be a capable backup at both tackle and guard. Especially with a full offseason to work on the guard position.

 

[Kangaroo]

Tucker is not better than either Allen or Rivera. Let's not get carried away here. But I do think he could be a capable backup at both tackle and guard. Especially with a full offseason to work on the guard position.

Yes Tucker is better than Allen; Allen is sucking big time this year the tape does not lie Allen is playing horrible he does solid in pass prtoect but has been one of the worse run blockers on this line.

Allen is over rated at this time in his career

 

[sbuscha]

Tucker is better then Allen? Man what are you smoking???

 

[DLCassidy]

Yes Tucker is better than Allen

This sounds like the one's saying Tucker would be an upgrade from Adams.

 

[Kangaroo]

Tucker is better then Allen? Man what are you smoking???

Want me to break it down for you I can Allen is not better than Tucker you guys are living off past glories let me break it down for you.

Ok Chiefs game the 1st 20 offensive snaps. I will spell this out for you; to show the only one who is smoking anything is you

Tucker has 1 blown assignment in the 1st 20 snaps he sees a lb fake the blitz but he peels off to go with rb other defender rolls on the inside shoulder of Tucker for a sack boom that is Tuckers one lone mistake. (1st series 3rd play of that series is when it happens)

Allen on the other hand lets list Allen's mistakes

2nd series 2nd play Allen is pulling guard total whiffs on his block forcing JJ to jumped the defender and have to swing out wider which was a 5 yard play had Allen made the block JJ could have cut up field and pursuit would not have gotten to him so quickly.

2nd series 3rd play and short Allen and AL are double teaming Allen over runs the double team getting his right shoulder past the defender and Allen is not squared up allowing #93 to split the double team and stop the run for 1 yard.

2nd series 4th play Allen is a pulling guard again he whiffs on the block forcing Barber to the inside to the waiting safety

3rd series 2nd play Allen guys slants Tucker destroys him opening up a hole Allen goes to help AL which does not need it and allows lb# 50 to run right by Allen and stop the run. If Allen would have read the block properly we spring a good run

3rd series 4th Play (after previous play was a hold on AL)
Allen gets to far back when defending allowing the de to get close enough to bat the ball down

3rd series 6th play Once again Allen goes to double team instead of going to the next level to pick up the lb #99 flows to the spot Allen leaves to stop the run.

3rd series 7th play barbers long run
Allen gets good initial push but linges and falls down lucky for him Tucker is scrapping down the line and takes out Allen's defender. So tucker bails out Allen and Barber breaks the long one so Tucker saves the day.

3rd series 9th play both AL and Larry Allen guys shed them easily to make tackle on rb

There you go that is just the 1st 20 snaps I have written down from the hiefs game I have been re watching film so before you start talking about who is smoking what you better go look at freaking film then come back and talk some smack.

You are lucky I have not finished re watching the rest of the game do to real life stuff getting in the way.


You just got :clubbed:

 

[big dog cowboy]

Assuming he isn't a starter, I would bet Tucker is the #1 back-up at both tackle positions next year. He has really gained a lot of valuable playing time this year.

The only way I see him having anything to do with the guard position is because of injury. OT's are just to valuable.

 

[Eskimo]

Assuming he isn't a starter, I would bet Tucker is the #1 back-up at both tackle positions next year. He has really gained a lot of valuable playing time this year.

The only way I see him having anything to do with the guard position is because of injury. OT's are just to valuable.

You put your best group of five guys on the field and then shift them as needed if there is an injury. So if the best lineup is with Tucker at OG then that's what you have to do.

I agree with Kangaroo - Allen has been quite bad this year. I think we're better off going in another direction next year. We only have $4M of SB left to deal with and Allen is not worth his salary.

I'd like to see Allen retire - that is probably the best way. I think it is more likely that he comes back or is waived.

 

[TunaFan33]

With Adams back at LT next year, Tucker goes to the bench. But he's looked decent at LT, and he played guard in college. Could he be the 1st backup for LT and both guard positions?

We haven't really seen Peterman on the field so I'm not writing him off yet but Tucker has shown he can be a servicable player. If he knows he's not the starter we could get him reps in camp at both T and G.

I assume we may look at FA for an upgrade at center (Mawae?) and we use an early draft pick on a LT. Petitti will get an offseason to get stronger and should compete with Columbo at RT.

I think we would keep Johnson and release Gurode and Price.

With all the undoings with our OL this year-at the same time, it seems like good seeds are being planted little by little.

Rob was in a peculiar situation to begin with, as was Torrin. But with a full season + next training camp under their belt, they'll be much improved next year-as will Flo when he recovers.

All in all-we'll be one OL away from being GREAT.