Cowboys a top 6 team in wins and cap space

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  1. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    One anyway....
     
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  2. unionjack8

    unionjack8 Well-Known Member

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    Can we see this stat from the past 10 years and see how many teams win the SB....a metric is only worth taking note of if its results actually prove anything
     
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  3. Hawkeye0202

    Hawkeye0202 Well-Known Member

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    +1 .......btw I thought there was something in the last CBA that said if teams cap space reached a certain amount they HAD to use a certain percentage. I may have it wrong but I'm thinking when cheap teams would have boatloads of cap space and refused to spend it.
     
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  4. Nightman

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    There is a Cash Floor but that is different from a Salary Bottom

    Over a 4 year period from 2017-2020 teams have to spend 90% of the Salary Cap on players in CASH

    But with prorations of Signing Bonuses and Dead Money this can leave a ton of real Cap Space

    DAL is actually close to floor and was close in the period from 2013-2016

    The Jones' spend all their revenue on Stadiums, Stars and yachts, not on Free Agents that can help the team win
     
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  5. Techsass

    Techsass Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    So did you quit being a fan because they haven't been to the SB?

    There's about 15 years of abject failure followed by a few years of minimal improvements. That's a lot to get over & I can appreciate that it's more than most can forgive. I'm willing to hope that JJ finally learned a little bit about how to actually put a winning team together. I'm also quite willing to accept that I could be totally wrong about that.
     
  6. Nightman

    Nightman Capologist

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    We have won the Division 3 out of the last 5 years and some fans can't get happy

    They are miserable and need to be left behind to cry in the darkness

    Our time is now..... we are young, talented and improving
     
  7. MWH1967

    MWH1967 Boys#1 95

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    Yes and 6 players will suck it all away. Same team just MUCH more expensive.
     
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  8. northerncowboynation

    northerncowboynation Well-Known Member

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    Is mid-level measured by cost or skill level? I would say cost because skill can vary from system to system. In other words stats can't be superimposed from one team to the next. On the other hand cost is often a reflection of skill level. I thought we did a nice job last offseason in addressing depth on the O-line. Unfortunately Marcus Martin and Eihringer both went down with injuries before the season started. Added some depth on the interior of the D-line too. Yes, we need depth which can be a mid level or lower FA. We missed at S and I didn't expect our FO to sign ET, I still don't. There are other options besides an aging 31 year old who has had two broken legs in the past 3 years IMO
     
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  9. Nightman

    Nightman Capologist

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    Good.... that means we drafted great

    Add 10 new Draft picks in the next 2 years that don't need any Cap Space

    Teams don't win games because they have a lot of Cap Space..... it is not an accounting competition

    Teams should have 5m in Cap Space every year to handle the IR..... any more is putting profits over production
     
  10. Sydla

    Sydla Well-Known Member

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    LOL.

    When was the last time we played in a champ game?

    Oh right.

    But hey, maybe we can get a trophy for winning 10 games and having over $50MM in cap space?
     
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  11. Idgit

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    Or we work on continuing to improve so that next year you can moan about not getting to a Super Bowl as if you weren’t whining about never being able to get over .500 just a few short offseasons ago.
     
  12. Nightman

    Nightman Capologist

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    Didn't your Eagles win the SB last year?
     
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  13. Sydla

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    First, I love how you just continue to make crap up. I've always been clear on what I want out of Garrett - a SB. That's the standard. Shoot, I even stepped back and said this offseason, I'd even take a NFC Champ game appearance at this point.

    What's also funny is you talk about improving and then criticize the moaners when the moaners have been spot on for years on how this team botches the offseason, specifically FA.

    This is why people complain in the offseason:

    2014

    Melton - ehhh
    Mincey - pretty good
    McClain - pretty good
    Weeden - bad
    Spillman - bad
    Watson - bad
    Anderson - bad
    Crawford - ehhh

    2015

    McFadden - pretty good
    Collins - ehhh
    Hardy - LOL
    Rivers - bad
    Brinkley - bad
    Gachkar - ehhh

    2016

    Morris - pretty good
    Thornton - bad
    Mayowa - ehhh

    2017

    Moore - bad
    Paea - bad
    Carroll - bad

    2018

    Olawale - ehhh
    Hurns - ehhhh
    Thomas - ehhhh
    Ealy - bad
    Thompson - bad
    Fleming - ehhh
    Martin - bad

    That's an embarrassing haul of FAs from a team that since 2014. I expect this offseason to follow that pattern. This franchise, despite making the playoffs (and also not having a full complement of draft picks), will sit out the first 1-2 weeks of free agency, then hit the bottom of the barrel bargain bin like they have for much of the last half decade or so.

    I am hoping to be shocked.
     
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  14. Idgit

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    To be clear, I’m speaking about the generic moaner here, and I most definitely did not make that argument up. I responded to it dozens of threads on the never-get-over-.500 topic.

    And, no, you guys aren’t just *****ing about free agent acquisitions. That’s an area where criticism is actually warranted. Note I said ‘criticim’ and not ‘whining.’
     
  15. Sydla

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    You said I said that. I never moved the goalposts. I have always been clear about what my expectations for the Cowboys head coach.

    There are a lot of areas to complain about. FA, coaching, etc. About the only thing that has gone right has been the recent run of drafts. That's about it.
     
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  16. Techsass

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    Looking at that list is even worse than I thought it was. We have picked too many FA's that were really bad, especially the used Eagles players. A lot of them weren't much more than camp bodies.
     
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  17. Sydla

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    Admittedly, I was behind the Thornton signing. But he turned out to be a turd.
     
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  18. IrishAnto

    IrishAnto Well-Known Member

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    Stats are all well and good, but it's what you do on the field of play that really count.

    A couple of years ago there was list of the teams that since 2000 have drafted the most pro-bowlers.

    We were join top with the Pats.

    How do we compare on the field of play with the Pats???
     
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  19. pancakeman

    pancakeman Well-Known Member

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    Uh, the Cowboys were #1 on both lists.
     
  20. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    Both he and Nolan Carroll were just the worst. You could not have done worse if you tried. Millions and millions invested in both for virtually nothing in return. You would be hard-pressed to find two worse examples in free agency.
     
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