Cowboys abandon "Air Coryell", officially WCO?

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what's funny, is the article I just posted showed that we have a lot more YAC this year than previous years. For example the 50 yard slant to Williams last week.

as for crowwing routes, didn't Dez run them back to back series against the Vikes? One a key drop, the other a big gain to help win the game...?

Lol was for you blaming romo for lack of YAC. See we run 2 crossing routes all game and they should've both worked. Need to see more.
 

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Does anyone know where this guys is gettin this west coast stuff from? Have any coaches or even media members said anything like that?


nah man, its all watching film, reading articles and then using critical thinking skills. I don't wait for the media to tell me my opinion.
 

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it looks nothing like a wco to me.

The bread and butter of those offenses are crossing patterns and slants and we run those just about as poorly as any team in the league.
This.

I think it is just a very conservative version of Garrett's offense.

The weirdest part is how often the middle of the field in the short/intermediate area has nobody in it. I think Romo wanted to make certain that LBs and inside coverage wouldn't jump some of his throws. He's had INTs on those in the past.

The problem with no routes in the middle area is that it's the shortest distance from the QB. The sideline routes require a longer throw to get the same yardage.
 

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id pull up all the passing charts and refute that, but I'm lazy and on my phone. That and it feels like people here dont want to have discussion.
 

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If we're running a WCO or not? It's not an opinion. It is a fact were running JG coryell playbook. Not an opinion.

JGs playbook was derived from many influences. I'd love to see your evidence that we are exclusively using the croyell. Heck, id settle for you showing that is what we run the majority of the time. It would be much more help than the canned "I disagree" comments.
 

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JGs playbook was derived from many influences. I'd love to see your evidence that we are exclusively using the croyell. Heck, id settle for you showing that is what we run the majority of the time. It would be much more help than the canned "I disagree" comments.

I cant go through the game film with you and give you real evidence. Nobody got time for that. But this is just some basic facts that suggests we are running JGs playbook. That is the playbook we worked on in training camp, all through the offseason. We didnt learn callahans WCO midseason. When I watch, I've never said, "that looks like the WCO." I think it would be reported by the media if we were running a WCO. The offense looks like JGs. Same concepts. Just conservative.
 

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The WCO is a variant of the vertical offense. It was developed by Walsh out of necessity. Walsh didn't have the personnel to run the vertical offense when he got to SF. Walsh was trained by the original operator of the VO...Paul Brown. (Sid Gillman did make the VO much higher octane)

So while it is called the vertical offense it isn't always so vertical. In truth we run a good number of drags, ins, digs, outs. shallow crosses etc. The misconception about the vertical label is that does require two WRs who can go vertical running deeper routes. But it also requires (or used to) running between the tackles and needs routes to the TE or RB. Walsh's offense was mislabeled by the media and it just stuck. The WCO is just throwing it short because you don't have time to develop deeper routes because you either don't have the WRs to run it, can't get people to bite on the run to throw the deep ball and/or have an OL to give you time to throw longer routes. Does that sound familiar to anyone and I'm not talking about me bringing this up from time to time.
 
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