Cowboys CB Orlando Scandrick says he’s ‘as good as they can get’

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He should be happy that his name was even mentioned or worth anything in trade.

When he sees 2 CBs leave, he had to assume we would draft some. I have no problem with him if healthy, gotta hope he is this year. We really haven't given him a consistent pass rush in his career, so he has to take everything with a grain of salt.
 

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Never knew why Scandrick got so much hate. A lot of people were butthurt about his contract, which was actually a great deal.

I like him. And when he's healthy he's a pretty good slot CB, that's a difficult position.

I think they just shopped him to see if anyone would overpay if they didn't get a CB they wanted in the draft.

Because he was always an illegal contact waiting to happen He did better a couple of years ago but he is still a grabber!
 

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I'm prone to thinking Scandrick is hellbound to prove himself worthy of continuing to keep his spot this year as long as he proves himself worthy of it. Naturally, retaining his current hold on that spot isn't guaranteed if he's unable to compete with the rookies on an even level of play.

To be fair, he represents a veteran presence on the team that might set the pace for our rookies to achieve if they're able to do so. Of course, 2017 might also present a scenario signaling his departure if he can't return to his former level of performance. It's just a matter of competition.
 
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Some good news and quotes from Scandrick here. I was worried that he'd be a problem after all of the trade talk surrounding his name, but thankfully it looks like it's only motivated him further.

I'd much rather hear about him being fired up than being a problem.




Dallas Cowboys cornerback Orlando Scandrick was initially miffed about his name coming up in trade rumors during the 2017 NFL Draft last month

And that was before the team finished a defensive-heavy draft with the addition of three cornerbacks, including two who could conceivably replace him in the slot in the form of Colorado’s Chidobe Awuzie (second round) and Michigan’s Jourdan Lewis (third round).


Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/sports...rner-blog/article149431599.html#storylink=cpy



http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cowboys-corner-blog/article149431599.html

If Scandrick is fully recovered and healthy, I expect him to be starting because of his ability and experience. Then, he'll slide to the slot and either Norman or Brown will come in, depending on which one wins the other starting job.

I'll be surprised if either Awusie or Lewis earn a spot in the top three this year simply because starting as a rookie at corner is difficult. Brown deserves more praise than I give him for what he accomplished last year.
 

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If Scandrick is fully recovered and healthy, I expect him to be starting because of his ability and experience. Then, he'll slide to the slot and either Norman or Brown will come in, depending on which one wins the other starting job.

I'll be surprised if either Awusie or Lewis earn a spot in the top three this year simply because starting as a rookie at corner is difficult. Brown deserves more praise than I give him for what he accomplished last year.

I think Scandrick will play where he plays best - in the slot. I could see Carroll and Brown manning the outside with Scandrick inside when the season starts. But I don't see them playing Scandrick outside, not his strong suit.
 

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This has always been as silly argument. Can they run crisp routes? Can they read the defense? Or is WR just about catching the ball? It's not asking too much for a guy to make some plays on the ball every now and again.
If they were natural hands catchers they'd likely have started on the offensive side of the ball earlier in life and so yes they'd have those skills you mention... Because of running crisp routes, reading the defense and being a natural hands catcher...the first two are learned the last is a gift.
 

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In my opinion rookie Anthony Brown played better than Scandrick has shown in the past 3-5(?) years. I expect all three rookie CBs to be better than Scandrick right now. If the rookies show something in camp, Scandrick would pretty much be a progress stopper and not worth keeping. Barring injury, Brown, Awuzie, Lewis, White, and Carroll would be my guesses as the CBs on the 53.
 

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If they were natural hands catchers they'd likely have started on the offensive side of the ball earlier in life and so yes they'd have those skills you mention... Because of running crisp routes, reading the defense and being a natural hands catcher...the first two are learned the last is a gift.
There are real wide receivers without those skills, shut up.
 
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I see 2017 as being the last season for Scandrick on this team. He's on the wrong side of 30 with some promising prospects coming up.

And while he is solid, he's far from a playmaker.
 

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I think Scandrick will play where he plays best - in the slot. I could see Carroll and Brown manning the outside with Scandrick inside when the season starts. But I don't see them playing Scandrick outside, not his strong suit.

A couple of years ago, he was as close to a shutdown corner as we've had in some time. It took him years to become that guy. If he's back to that form, then he should start because he'll likely be our best corner. Last year, he clearly had not recovered that form and he might never, but I don't agree that playing him outside is not his "strong suit." He's better in the slot, but his outside play possibly will still be better than anyone we've got.
 

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In my opinion rookie Anthony Brown played better than Scandrick has shown in the past 3-5(?) years. I expect all three rookie CBs to be better than Scandrick right now. If the rookies show something in camp, Scandrick would pretty much be a progress stopper and not worth keeping. Barring injury, Brown, Awuzie, Lewis, White, and Carroll would be my guesses as the CBs on the 53.

Your opinion is wrong. You need to go back and watch Scandrick in 2014 before he was injured. The only question is whether he can return to that form.

In case you don't remember, he was defensive MVP that year before missing 2015 because of injury.
 
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I would rather see him confident that doubting himself. That is what critics are for.

I agree with some others he needs to have a big season
 

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Here's a good breakdown of his last healthy season before the injury:

Over the years the Dallas Cowboys have gone out of their way to find top-end CB talent, and over the years that talent has been disappointing to say the least. But one CB has always been there, playing up to (or above) expectations, willing to compete even when playing time looked bleak. That man is Orlando Scandrick.

It’s easy to take CB Orlando Scandrick for granted. The 4th round pick out of Boise State has quietly built a hell of a career in Dallas. Perpetually cast as the 3rd CB in the nickel role, Scandy has finally established himself as the best CB on the Dallas Cowboys.

In the seven years he’s been a pro, the 27 year old Scandrick has been a reliable force in the often dysfunctional secondary. Scandy isn’t flashy in the traditional sense … or even the statistical sense. In seven seasons, Orlando has collected only 7 interceptions. His distaste for the football inspired this article prior to the season: Scandrick is Good but not a Playmaker. The article was not meant to be a back-handed complement, but rather a statement of realism and praise to one of the best defensive players on the roster. In other words, stop wanting him to be someone he’s not and accept him for what he is – a damn good football player.

2014 provided another opportunity for Scandrick to show exactly how good and how valuable he is to this team. Couple his stellar performance with his always-reasonable price tag, and you have a Dallas Cowboys’ Defensive MVP candidate (to be announced here on Tuesday).

Grading Orlando Scandrick’s 2014 Performance
Breaking down film and grading each play is something that sounds easier in theory than it is in reality. It’s not always obvious what a particular player’s assignment is on every single play. He may have traditional zone coverage on one play and man coverage the next play. Sometimes he’s playing man while others are playing zone which further complicates grading since the assignments change as the play develops. Just because he’s the closest defender to the play, doesn’t mean it was his primary responsibility. Recognizing this obstacle (unknown assignments and coverage) is very important in player grading and something I try to be sure of before casting blame or heaping praise.

In my film reviews this year, I watched and re-watched game film to ascertain assignments and execution. Every game except for the Thanksgiving Day Annihilation by the Eagles was reviewed and graded. I used a -3 to a +3 scale for game grades and averaged those scores for final 2014 Player Grades.

Pro Football Focus (subscription required) is another resource that breaks down film and grades plays. If they are unsure on a particular assignment on a given play, they simply do not grade it. For final end-of-year scores, PFF adds it all up. As a result, there numbers are much higher than my averages, and are largely uncapped play to play. Because of this, I’ll try to apply some context to their grades (relative to the team and the players around the league).

When player evaluation is based on each play and not a post-game stat sheet, this process is very important, or one may misrepresent a player’s performance. With all of that said…

Orlando Scandrick had a team MVP worthy performance in 2014. The 5’10” 195lb CB established himself as the best outside cornerback and inside nickel back on the team. He even rated as my highest defensive back on the Cowboys roster when grouping all DBs together.
With only 2 interceptions, 1 sack, and 50 tackles, Scandy wasn’t exactly a statistical juggernaut, but for those who really pay attention (and grade each play whether consequential or not), Orlando Scandrick had a fantastic year.

On my -3 thru +3 scale, I rated Scandy at a 1.5 year-end average. He ranked moderate-to-high scores in coverage, high scores in critical playmaking (playing strong at key moments), and moderate in pass-rush. Pro Football Focus thought so much of Orlando Scandrick that they ranked him as their 10th best CB in the NFL last season, that’s obviously behind All-Pro CBs Richard Sherman (3rd) and Darrelle Revis (4th), but it’s ahead of players like Aqib Talib (16th), Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (17th), and Joe Haden (28th).

Coverage

Grading CBs is difficult when you consider tackling, pass-rushing, and coverage, with equal weight. Orlando Scandrick rarely gets burned and is often in excellent position when executing his assignments. Unfortunately Scandy still allows a ridiculous amount of completions even with his solid positioning. In 2014, opposing QBs completed over 74% of passes against Scandrick. Ideally you’d like your CBs holding QBs to something in the 50s but since Scandy moves inside to the nickel against 3 receiver sets, the inflated number is somewhat understandable.

As we’ve discussed in the past (in great length), Scandrick is not a ballhawk and because of this opposing QBs like to target him. He may offer the best coverage on the team, but without a threat of interception, QBs are more attracted to the consequence-free option from Boise State.

Tackling and Pass-Rush

I’ve always liked Scandrick’s tenacity and open-field tackling. He doesn’t always grade out well but he’s aggressive and I’ve always respected that considering his size. Rod Marinelli likes to use DBs as occasional pass-rushers and has taken a liking to Scandrick being that rusher (Most likely that’s because it’s easier to disguise a blitz from the nickel spot).

If there is a free shot at the QB, Scandrick will usually take advantage of it and attack and execute as well as any DB in the league, but when a TE or HB stays in pass-protect, Scandy all-too-often pulls up and willingly accepts the block.

Orlando Scandrick X-Factor
Orlando Scandrick’s best skill is his ability to play anywhere in the secondary. He’s able to play from the outside CB spots as well as the nickel, and executes assignments with confidence. His intelligence and preparation are by far the best we’ve seen from a DB in Dallas for years. Smart and versatile players are always valuable commodities on teams intent on re-building (which the Cowboys are on defense).
 

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A couple of years ago, he was as close to a shutdown corner as we've had in some time. It took him years to become that guy. If he's back to that form, then he should start because he'll likely be our best corner. Last year, he clearly had not recovered that form and he might never, but I don't agree that playing him outside is not his "strong suit." He's better in the slot, but his outside play possibly will still be better than anyone we've got.

Then we're in trouble. It's never been his role.
 

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Your opinion is wrong. You need to go back and watch Scandrick in 2014 before he was injured. The only question is whether he can return to that form.

In case you don't remember, he was defensive MVP that year before missing 2015 because of injury.

It's now 2017.
 
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