Cowboys Claim RB Rod Smith from SEA

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You would like to believe that, but we had the same problems before Romo went out. We sure needed it last year to get to 12-4. In years past when the run game "wouldn't matter" we were 8-8 with our QB.

I do believe it. Probably because I remember how bad the defense was during those 8-8 seasons you're talking about.
 

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lol.. People are still talking about a philly RB, as if Murray would have changed anything that's wrong with the Cowboys season so far. Injury's have been our problem.. and that's pretty obvious and non-debatable. For the life of me, I really don't understand why some folks are still crying over a player that chose to leave for money. Good for him.. and get over it! The real MVP of our team is and has always been.. Romo. Dallas hasn't been able to win without him. Romo keeps defenses honest, calls correct audibles when they aren't. Romo can by time when a play breaks down, makes an array of throws, is a student of the game and has proven this with his play despite the media scrutinizing his every move. Romo made our Offensive Line better.. He made Demarco better.. He simply makes our whole team better. So please people, get off Murrays jockstrap. Murray is a good RB, but he was only as good as Romo & our scheme allowed. Just look at how "awesome" he is now.. yeeeaahh about that. Anyway, my point.. If Injuries hadn't hit this team as hard as it has.. we surely would be 4-1 or atleast 3-2 and things would be looking up because the defense is starting to look as scary as projected. Randle would definitely have better opportunities with Romo at the helm, thus this "wish we had Murray" crap would be long forgotten.. or atleast the Murray homers wouldn't have anything to complain about. But.. We keep losing impact players like Romo, Dez, and Dunbar... yet everything would be fine if we had the trader Murray? Give me a break. Just like a bad break-up.. quit crying and mooovvvveee ooonnnn. geez.
 

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Wow. You were able to see that after 7 whopping carries during the preseason?

doesn't take long to see a guy doesn't have balance, How many times do i need to see him fall over to know this? It's 5 games into the season and Broaddus finally figured this out. I'm not hating on the guy and I had hope for him, Randle has been better running the ball, better pass blocking, and if they'd let him he'd be a much bigger threat as a 3rd down back than McFadden. I'd like to see Cmike and Randle going forward.
 

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lol.. People are still talking about a philly RB, as if Murray would have changed anything that's wrong with the Cowboys season so far. Injury's have been our problem.. and that's pretty obvious and non-debatable. For the life of me, I really don't understand why some folks are still crying over a player that chose to leave for money. Good for him.. and get over it! The real MVP of our team is and has always been.. Romo. Dallas hasn't been able to win without him. Romo keeps defenses honest, calls correct audibles when they aren't. Romo can by time when a play breaks down, makes an array of throws, is a student of the game and has proven this with his play despite the media scrutinizing his every move. Romo made our Offensive Line better.. He made Demarco better.. He simply makes our whole team better. So please people, get off Murrays jockstrap. Murray is a good RB, but he was only as good as Romo & our scheme allowed. Just look at how "awesome" he is now.. yeeeaahh about that. Anyway, my point.. If Injuries hadn't hit this team as hard as it has.. we surely would be 4-1 or atleast 3-2 and things would be looking up because the defense is starting to look as scary as projected. Randle would definitely have better opportunities with Romo at the helm, thus this "wish we had Murray" crap would be long forgotten.. or atleast the Murray homers wouldn't have anything to complain about. But.. We keep losing impact players like Romo, Dez, and Dunbar... yet everything would be fine if we had the trader Murray? Give me a break. Just like a bad break-up.. quit crying and mooovvvveee ooonnnn. geez.

Murray absolutely would've changed some things. You telling me DeMarco would've been constantly taken down by his shoe string like McFadden has or be trying to dance in the backfield like Randle? No Murray never did that. Yeah sometimes he would pick the wrong hole, but he never was hesitant. He was never afraid of contact. He was as tough and physical a runner as the Cowboys have had since Marion Barber's prime.

Randle just isn't that good. He's a backup running back in this league. Last year really exemplified that. Murray would get the bulk of the carries, he would wear down a defense, and then Randle would get some big runs after the opposing defense was completely gassed.

People keep talking about the offensive line making Murray and look what's happened without him. Yes it has a lot to do with Romo and Dez, but they also miss Murray. They miss having that guy who would just go. The guy who when it was 3rd and short would just barrel ahead and get you the first down. A guy who not only never shyed away from contact, but looked for it. He wanted to always inflict some punishment on defenders when they came to try and bring him down.

Even when Romo and Dez return none of these backs will do what Murray did. They'll never have the same type of impact. They'll never have an 1,800 yard season. Which was the best in Cowboys history from a yards standpoint. Murray was great last season, but was pretty good the year before. The Cowboys didn't feed him enough, but once they made a commitment to running the football we saw how Murray exploded. It's so frustrating watching guys like Randle and McFadden. They both go down so easy. From the time he came into the league DeMarco was never a guy who went down easy. Once he got to the second level teams often had to gang tackle him. No he wasn't the most elusive guy, but I'll take toughness and physicality over finesse runners who can't break any tackles to save their life.

As for Murray betraying the Cowboys please. He clearly wanted to stay in Dallas and they insulted him with an offer. I can't blame him for jumping on the Eagles offer. You're gonna let the guy walk fine whatever, but you need a better backup plan than the JAG's that they have right now.
 

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Bruegler called him a poor man's Carlos Hyde, or thereabouts. Which gets my attention, except for the 'poor mans' part. Love the size, but this guy is here for his ST contributions, if anything, I think. Though it'd be interesting to see them line up some big backs and try to beat teams that stack the box into submission. Team it up with the picks to uncover our shifty WRs and borrow what NE did to us until at least Tony gets back.

Not that I think that can realistically happen. I do like the big backs, though, given what we want (or need) to do on offense.

I've been called a twice bankrupt poor man's brad pitt. So f yeah !!!
 

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Murray absolutely would've changed some things. You telling me DeMarco would've been constantly taken down by his shoe string like McFadden has or be trying to dance in the backfield like Randle? No Murray never did that. Yeah sometimes he would pick the wrong hole, but he never was hesitant. He was never afraid of contact. He was as tough and physical a runner as the Cowboys have had since Marion Barber's prime.

Randle just isn't that good. He's a backup running back in this league. Last year really exemplified that. Murray would get the bulk of the carries, he would wear down a defense, and then Randle would get some big runs after the opposing defense was completely gassed.

People keep talking about the offensive line making Murray and look what's happened without him. Yes it has a lot to do with Romo and Dez, but they also miss Murray. They miss having that guy who would just go. The guy who when it was 3rd and short would just barrel ahead and get you the first down. A guy who not only never shyed away from contact, but looked for it. He wanted to always inflict some punishment on defenders when they came to try and bring him down.

Even when Romo and Dez return none of these backs will do what Murray did. They'll never have the same type of impact. They'll never have an 1,800 yard season. Which was the best in Cowboys history from a yards standpoint. Murray was great last season, but was pretty good the year before. The Cowboys didn't feed him enough, but once they made a commitment to running the football we saw how Murray exploded. It's so frustrating watching guys like Randle and McFadden. They both go down so easy. From the time he came into the league DeMarco was never a guy who went down easy. Once he got to the second level teams often had to gang tackle him. No he wasn't the most elusive guy, but I'll take toughness and physicality over finesse runners who can't break any tackles to save their life.

As for Murray betraying the Cowboys please. He clearly wanted to stay in Dallas and they insulted him with an offer. I can't blame him for jumping on the Eagles offer. You're gonna let the guy walk fine whatever, but you need a better backup plan than the JAG's that they have right now.

So Cowboys running game sucks because there is no Demarco, but Demarco stinking it up in Philly has nothing to do with the fact he didn't take Martin, Fred, Smith etc with him? Got it.
 

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Murray absolutely would've changed some things. You telling me DeMarco would've been constantly taken down by his shoe string like McFadden has or be trying to dance in the backfield like Randle? No Murray never did that. Yeah sometimes he would pick the wrong hole, but he never was hesitant. He was never afraid of contact. He was as tough and physical a runner as the Cowboys have had since Marion Barber's prime.

Randle just isn't that good. He's a backup running back in this league. Last year really exemplified that. Murray would get the bulk of the carries, he would wear down a defense, and then Randle would get some big runs after the opposing defense was completely gassed.

People keep talking about the offensive line making Murray and look what's happened without him. Yes it has a lot to do with Romo and Dez, but they also miss Murray. They miss having that guy who would just go. The guy who when it was 3rd and short would just barrel ahead and get you the first down. A guy who not only never shyed away from contact, but looked for it. He wanted to always inflict some punishment on defenders when they came to try and bring him down.

Even when Romo and Dez return none of these backs will do what Murray did. They'll never have the same type of impact. They'll never have an 1,800 yard season. Which was the best in Cowboys history from a yards standpoint. Murray was great last season, but was pretty good the year before. The Cowboys didn't feed him enough, but once they made a commitment to running the football we saw how Murray exploded. It's so frustrating watching guys like Randle and McFadden. They both go down so easy. From the time he came into the league DeMarco was never a guy who went down easy. Once he got to the second level teams often had to gang tackle him. No he wasn't the most elusive guy, but I'll take toughness and physicality over finesse runners who can't break any tackles to save their life.

As for Murray betraying the Cowboys please. He clearly wanted to stay in Dallas and they insulted him with an offer. I can't blame him for jumping on the Eagles offer. You're gonna let the guy walk fine whatever, but you need a better backup plan than the JAG's that they have right now.

Murray is on a pace for 520 yards.

Dallas offensive line is not blocking anything this season, and that's because there's zero passing threat in the offense right now.
 

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Also some of our line guys are going down field to block, I assume this is what they are told to do, but the guys they let go by them get our RB in the backfield so those down field blocks are meaningless. Sometimes Martin or leary wind up blocking no one.
There is a trade off when designing run plays. The trade off is attempting to set up the blocking for bigger gains at the expense of a higher chance of no gain. The other option is to go for a more definite short gain.

There are many times that I see the blocker move past the initial defender because they are going to the 2nd level to setup a bigger gain. That's great if another blocker comes over to get that initial defender or if the play goes away from that defender enough that he can't make the play; however, often times that defender that could have been blocked but was not makes the tackle.

It does seem as if maybe the Cowboys should go for the more definite short gain at times in their blocking scheme.
 

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Here is the box. You believe they had 10 men in the box? Of course not. Even 9 is extremely rare.

WSU-Portland_run_play_2_box_count.0.jpg

Great pic....

It's not the Cowboys-Pats game, but it's a great pic. It's not where close to what I described in my post, either (Patriots playing 8, and on occasions 9 or 10, men within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage). Are they necessarily "in the box"? Not always, as it depended upon the number of TEs/wideouts being utilized by the Cowboy's offense.BUT, they were right there at the line, in prime position to play the run after reading their first key.
 

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You clearly are confused on where the box ends. Anyone 25 yards off the ball isn't in the box my friend.

And you clearly have a comprehension problem. The safety 25 yards off is the one man NOT in the box.
 

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Wow. You were able to see that after 7 whopping carries during the preseason?

We saw it the first 7 years of his career and it was confirmed in the pre-season that he hadn't made some miraculous transformation.
 

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What confuses me about this move and the trade for CMike is the question: was it not evident throughout camp that the RB position needed shoring up? Did the coaches not watch our current players closely enough at that time to realize that it might be a good idea to bring in some others for a tryout at the position? Yes, I know DMAC was injured.
 

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Great pic....

It's not the Cowboys-Pats game, but it's a great pic. It's not where close to what I described in my post, either (Patriots playing 8, and on occasions 9 or 10, men within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage). Are they necessarily "in the box"? Not always, as it depended upon the number of TEs/wideouts being utilized by the Cowboy's offense.BUT, they were right there at the line, in prime position to play the run after reading their first key.

LOS isn't the box.

95% of the plays in the NFL have 9 guys within 5 yards of the LOS

4 DL, 3LB and 2 CB or
3DL, 4LB and 2 CB

The box is the "tackle box" and it is about bringing up an extra S to stop the run
 

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What confuses me about this move and the trade for CMike is the question: was it not evident throughout camp that the RB position needed shoring up? Did the coaches not watch our current players closely enough at that time to realize that it might be a good idea to bring in some others for a tryout at the position? Yes, I know DMAC was injured.

Welcome to the entire summer here at the CZone.

We were told the that "everything was fine", "anyone can run behind this OL" and "trust JG and the FO"
 
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