Cowboys Claim RB Rod Smith from SEA

[Nightman]

In salary Murray belongs in that group. Outside of that, he isn't close.

That is your opinion. The players and the AP disagree strongly.

 

[ShiningStar]

Chrun baby churn.


So many around here complaining about RB corp should give the FO some credit for bring in Michael and now Smith. At least we aren't sitting still. We're making moves and addressing the situation.

i concur the two things i give credit to Garrett, a good offseason, and churning the roster.

 

[CCBoy]

According to Bryan Broaddus of DallasCowboys.com, the Dallas Cowboys have signed another Seahawks' running back in Rod Smith after acquiring Christine Michael a few weeks ago.

The team also worked out running back LaMike James, but elected not to sign him,

Smith was on Seattle’s practice squad, but was moved to the 53-man active roster last week and released on Tuesday to open up a roster spot for other needs.

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/a..._pick_seahawks_pocket_for_another_rb/19716151

 

[hutch1254]

He's 45 years old, spent his entire career as a WR, and hasn't played in 7 years. I don't get this signing.

45 year old Rod Smith the WR can probably get better separation than D. Street. I'd take it.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Makes zero sense. Anyone who breaths air knows we couldn't and shouldn't pay Murray $8M a year.

The problem is we replaced an all-pro RB with a bunch of scrubs and called it a day

Broaddus on Talkin Cowboys today said the 9 men in the box is a myth. He said the Pats did not one time play with 9 in the box and that it is the down lineman that are blowing up our line

Also that the backs are getting chased down from behind because they are hesitant and Murray just hit the hole at full speed

Basically Broaddus said our RBs suck

 

[xwalker]

45 year old Rod Smith the WR can probably get better separation than D. Street. I'd take it.

Street has been wide open at times but Weed can't get him the ball.

You need the All-22 to see it.

 

[DandyDon52]

You don't mess with team chemistry when the team is so close to a SB. Now we have to go out and find another RB.

exactly, they had I say a formula, but they had chemistry and it worked.
The main difference was the run game last year, From the previous 8-8 years and to get rid of a key component of that is just stupid.
There were 4 keys last year, Romo, murray, dez, and the OL.
And I think the OL and murray each deserved about 50% of the credit for the success of the run game, and the OL got 100% of that credit from many.
And now after 5 games it is clear it wasnt just the OL.

 

[DandyDon52]

The problem is we replaced an all-pro RB with a bunch of scrubs and called it a day

Broaddus on Talkin Cowboys today said the 9 men in the box is a myth. He said the Pats did not one time play with 9 in the box and that it is the down lineman that are blowing up our line

Also that the backs are getting chased down from behind because they are hesitant and Murray just hit the hole at full speed

Basically Broaddus said our RBs suck

I have seen that, our line is getting beat by 5 and 6 guys, partly due to RB going wrong way or right into congested area, and hesitating , being slow etc.
Also some of our line guys are going down field to block, I assume this is what they are told to do, but the guys they let go by them get our RB in the backfield so those down field blocks are meaningless. Sometimes Martin or leary wind up blocking no one.

Cowboys should have kept murray , some will agree some never will.
Like BK said 8mil was the market value for a top back like murray.
I dont think dez is worth 13 mil a year but that is the market value.
Murray had played for 4 years on 1/2 a mil per year, so he deserved the good payday.
What was a SB worth ?
Our offense has always been suspect and up and down, But rarely showed up in big games till last year.
The run game and Murray were a huge part of that , and letting him go put dallas back to mediocre offense.
Then take away dez then romo and it is a joke.
I present the NE game, as proof of that, 3 points per half, and that was a struggle.
and it was not all weeden, he is bad but it was the play design and horrible game plan and no innovation at all , no adjustments, and that is just JG.

Even with cassel and collins, it will be better but it will still be the stale, and predictable JG offense.

 

[rpntex]

How many are in this box? 9? How big is this box?
The giants and eagles faced us with Romo and partially Dez and we were very ineffective running the ball.
How often do you really think teams are playing us with 9 in the box? Any play where we had Beasley in the game would mean you cant have 9 in the box or someone wouldnt be covered at all. I dont believe the box has been this loaded. 7 or 8 maybe....but 9? Even Weeden could find an open man against a 9 man box.

Playing "9 in the box" doesn't mean all 9 are playing the run exclusively. In fact nobody plays run exclusively, not even the DL. Watch the New England game again. The Patriots played a single safety high (he was damn near 25 yards off the ball), but every other defender was within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. In other words, NE was putting TEN in the box effectively. They knew Weeden wasn't throwing the ball past 5-10 yards downfield, or outside the numbers. That left them a very small area to defend. They were able to read their keys, and if it was a run, they were already close to the ball - a lot closer than they would have been with Romo at QB.

 

[superonyx]

Playing "9 in the box" doesn't mean all 9 are playing the run exclusively. In fact nobody plays run exclusively, not even the DL. Watch the New England game again. The Patriots played a single safety high (he was damn near 25 yards off the ball), but every other defender was within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. In other words, NE was putting TEN in the box effectively. They knew Weeden wasn't throwing the ball past 5-10 yards downfield, or outside the numbers. That left them a very small area to defend. They were able to read their keys, and if it was a run, they were already close to the ball - a lot closer than they would have been with Romo at QB.

You clearly are confused on where the box ends. Anyone 25 yards off the ball isn't in the box my friend.

 

[Brooksey]

We don't need excuses. We need our QB back, and we need to be getting turnovers. If we had those two things, the rushing would either be there, or it wouldn't matter.

You would like to believe that, but we had the same problems before Romo went out. We sure needed it last year to get to 12-4. In years past when the run game "wouldn't matter" we were 8-8 with our QB.

 

[Tobal]

The problem is we replaced an all-pro RB with a bunch of scrubs and called it a day

Broaddus on Talkin Cowboys today said the 9 men in the box is a myth. He said the Pats did not one time play with 9 in the box and that it is the down lineman that are blowing up our line

Also that the backs are getting chased down from behind because they are hesitant and Murray just hit the hole at full speed

Basically Broaddus said our RBs suck

Broaddus says a lot and I don't disagree with all of it, but it took him this long to figure out McFadden has no balance and most of us saw that in preseason. You don't need the all 22 to see all the patriot defenders. That tells me they have 11 people pretty damn close to the line.

 

[Tobal]

You would like to believe that, but we had the same problems before Romo went out. We sure needed it last year to get to 12-4. In years past when the run game "wouldn't matter" we were 8-8 with our QB.

We also had a very bad defense

 

[Hailmary]

Broaddus says a lot and I don't disagree with all of it, but it took him this long to figure out McFadden has no balance and most of us saw that in preseason. You don't need the all 22 to see all the patriot defenders. That tells me they have 11 people pretty damn close to the line.

Wow. You were able to see that after 7 whopping carries during the preseason?

 

[Bullet22]

The new Johnny come lately..

 

[Brooksey]

We also had a very bad defense

This is so true. So why not pass it (65-70%) a game when Romo returns? There is plenty of stat research on football outsiders and if you look
you'll see this is just a passing differential league anyway. Running the ball doesn't really matter. It's about passing the ball and stopping the pass.
That translates to winning. The only reason why "Air Garrett" didn't work in 2010-2013 is because of our defense, i mean let's face it.
At this point it would be only fair to go back to that offense and prove it once our defense is clicking on all cylinders.

Who cares if drives last 1:30 seconds, our defense can handle it right? I mean they were only tired in the second half last week because the offense was stalling without cashing in on points.

Yeah but in all seriousness when Romo and Dez come back they will score on most possessions, so the quick hitting 1:30 drives and tired defenses won't really matter as much. Who cares if the other team
is scoring on most drives, we are going to outscore them and play the pass better then they do. We have JJ Wilcox, Barry Church and Jeff Heath, they don't. This is a passing differential league
my friend and we are going to run the tables passing the ball 65-70% when Romo returns. You just watch.

AIR Garrett 2015 coming soon, Stay tuned.

 

[superonyx]

Playing "9 in the box" doesn't mean all 9 are playing the run exclusively. In fact nobody plays run exclusively, not even the DL. Watch the New England game again. The Patriots played a single safety high (he was damn near 25 yards off the ball), but every other defender was within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. In other words, NE was putting TEN in the box effectively. They knew Weeden wasn't throwing the ball past 5-10 yards downfield, or outside the numbers. That left them a very small area to defend. They were able to read their keys, and if it was a run, they were already close to the ball - a lot closer than they would have been with Romo at QB.

Here is the box. You believe they had 10 men in the box? Of course not. Even 9 is extremely rare.

 

[hutch1254]

Street has been wide open at times but Weed can't get him the ball.

You need the All-22 to see it.

I believe you. To the average fan though I think most of the fan base just feels he's a liability out there at the moment. If Dez were healthy and on the field you would hope Street would become that Reuben Randle type WR3 that gets those sneaky 3 to 5 catches a game, those first down gaining type catches that come in handy but you forget about later.

 

[John813]

Dude is almost the size of a fullback. Probably can block just as well as Clutts.

 

[Doc50]

Bruegler called him a poor man's Carlos Hyde, or thereabouts. Which gets my attention, except for the 'poor mans' part. Love the size, but this guy is here for his ST contributions, if anything, I think. Though it'd be interesting to see them line up some big backs and try to beat teams that stack the box into submission. Team it up with the picks to uncover our shifty WRs and borrow what NE did to us until at least Tony gets back.

Not that I think that can realistically happen. I do like the big backs, though, given what we want (or need) to do on offense.

I like big backs, and i cannot lie.........................