Chris in SoCal;2548888 said:425(121)Bruce ThorntonCBGeorgia
Jared Allen went 5 picks after this guy. Yikes.
On a separate note, it would seem to me that whatever it is that the Cowboys staff uses to identify offensive linemen as prospects is very wrong and we should abandon that philosophy immediately. We have missed badly on offensive linemen. With the age of the linemen now we really need to think about adding 2-3 guys who are good enough to play now in a back-up role but also have the potential to start down the line. Or we can just keep paying big money for free agents who have developed on other teams.
arglebargle;2548750 said:If you get two starting players out of a standard number of draft picks, you have done okay.
The 2005 draft as a whole, was not very good, and the Cowboys probably had the best choices of any team that year.
Notable here is the number of OLinemen that have not panned out. Also, for a guy who brought the term 'pet cats' to the Cowboys, Parcells sure ended up with a lot of 'em.
gimmesix;2549529 said:That's why I want us to use all of our picks this year instead of bundling them. Two of the greatest drafts in NFL history were made by the early 1990s Cowboys, and one of the contributing factors was the number of draft picks Dallas used.
Take more shots and you improve your chances of scoring.
gimmesix;2549529 said:That's why I want us to use all of our picks this year instead of bundling them. Two of the greatest drafts in NFL history were made by the early 1990s Cowboys, and one of the contributing factors was the number of draft picks Dallas used.
Take more shots and you improve your chances of scoring.
More than just OL.........Arch Stanton;2548782 said:Is it any wonder why there is no quality OLine depth?
Insert trade for Holland and signings of Kozier, Columbo and Bigg.
We cannot draft an OLineman for.......
masomenos85;2549761 said:Wow, 2004 was a bad draft.
Even after trading down, our first 5 picks could have been.
S Bob Sanders
DT/DE Darnell Dockett
OG Sean Locklear
DE/OLB Jared Allen
RB Michael Turner
Oh, hindsight.
AbeBeta;2549801 said:you can't judge a draft like that.
but I can honestly say that, although I was thrilled with the Julius Jones pick, I was screaming for us to get Turner, who I expected to go much higher. I hate you Sean Ryan
masomenos85;2549825 said:Oh, I'm not judging the draft based on that. I was just saying what could have been.
parchy;2549829 said:Honestly, our percentage on players that hit vs. players that missed since '03 is probably either at or above the league average. You're really just hoping two, maybe three of your picks in a given year are going to be around contributing by the end of their rookie contracts. Parcells reformed some of Jerry's bad draft habits and Wade's got a decent enough staff around him to help somewhat in that regard. Let us not forget how badly a lot of folks thought Jerry missed on Felix over Mendenhall. They both missed the season but I don't think anybody would re-do that.
I can guarantee though that we won't be having any more '03 or '05 drafts under current management without a personnel guy in here to check Jerry's ridiculous ideas. Wade and his lackeys sure as hell ain't it.
Perhaps Jerry has learned that listening and trusting the scouts is a good thing.parchy;2549829 said:I can guarantee though that we won't be having any more '03 or '05 drafts under current management without a personnel guy in here to check Jerry's ridiculous ideas. Wade and his lackeys sure as hell ain't it.
arglebargle;2548750 said:If you get two starting players out of a standard number of draft picks, you have done okay.
The 2005 draft as a whole, was not very good, and the Cowboys probably had the best choices of any team that year.
Notable here is the number of OLinemen that have not panned out. Also, for a guy who brought the term 'pet cats' to the Cowboys, Parcells sure ended up with a lot of 'em.
Star4Ever;2549941 said:WHAT?????? Our 2005 draft was GREAT. Five starters in Ware, Spears, Canty, Ratliff, and Barber. We also got Burnett. What do you want, 7 Hall of Famers in one draft? That was a great draft.