Cowboys may have interest in Colt McCoy

[jobberone]

Unless you are going to depend on a developmental QB to win you a few games then you are forced to get a vet FA QB.

I think with a better pass rush and defense we will have a defense that can help a backup a bit more.

 

[jobberone]

Unless you are going to depend on a developmental QB to win you a few games then you are forced to get a vet FA QB.

I think with a better pass rush and defense we will have a defense that can help a backup a bit more.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

And in no way did that force Kellen Moore to turn the ball over at the rate of 3 per game.

Absolutely NOWAY with Beas and T WIll as the #1 - 2 and the loser Dallas Defense giving up 34 points in Kellen Moores' 435 yard passing with a 100.9 QB rating in his last game.

 

[Stash]

Absolutely NOWAY with Beas and T WIll as the #1 - 2 and the loser Dallas Defense giving up 34 points in Kellen Moores' 435 yard passing with a 100.9 QB rating in his last game.

Still no excuse for that number of turnovers. And obviously, when you have that many, you can throw for all the yards and whatever rating you want and you'll still get beat.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Still no excuse for that number of turnovers. And obviously, when you have that many, you can throw for all the yards and whatever rating you want and you'll still get beat.

Kellen in his first starts was better than Cassel or Weeden. Moore put the ball in places they simply can't or won't.

McCoy is not an improvement over what we have, he's a player in fear afraid to get hit and that hinders what monetary skills he used to have. Simply not better than Moore who is still fearless enough to have game.

 

[Stash]

Kellen in his first starts was better than Cassel or Weeden. Moore put the ball in places they simply can't or won't.

Totally irrelevant to this conversation. Nobody is making the case for keeping Cassel or Weeden over Moore. Both were terrible in Dallas and nobody wants them back either.

McCoy is not an improvement over what we have, he's a player in fear afraid to get hit and that hinders what monetary skills he used to have. Simply not better than Moore who is still fearless enough to have game.

Subjective, unsupported and inaccurate claims, nothing more.

I can support my position with facts and stats that show McCoy to be the superior player. Heck, the fact is that people are still debating whether or not Moore can even play at the NFL level.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I don't think we double down. If we sign a QB, I would highly doubt we draft a QB in the first. After all, spending a fourth pick on a guy to be inactive for two seasons is too much. If we get a QB, I want him to be active with a headset on and ready to get some game reps if called upon.

This is the type of thinking that we simply dont need in Dallas. Although sadly the people that run our franchise will probably agree with you. AFter watching Romo the last 4 years one could say that a rookie taken this year would play plenty. But even if he never did, he may not play for two years, but then he may play the next 15 years as our next possible Romo.

This team is no position to be thinking that we are one more player away or anything ridiculous like that.

And lets be realistic anyways...........Most rookies don't make an impact their first year anyway. We have 3 exceptional rookies this year and you cant say that one of them made a difference. Lawrence from two years ago finally made a difference the 2nd half of his 2nd year. But again, it made little difference with this woefully lacking roster.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Totally irrelevant to this conversation. Nobody is making the case for keeping Cassel or Weeden over Moore. Both were terrible in Dallas and nobody wants them back either.



Subjective, unsupported and inaccurate claims, nothing more.

I can support my position with facts and stats that show McCoy to be the superior player. Heck, the fact is that people are still debating whether or not Moore can even play at the NFL level.

I agree. McCoy would be a decent backup. But lets all face reality anyway. Be it Cassell, McCoy, or a rookie, the Cowboys aren't sniffing the playoffs without a healthy Romo. Which makes it more of a case for drafting the air apparent with the 4th pick.

 

[cowboyblue22]

im not sure they make the playoffs with a healthy Romo. Until they get the defense and coaching fixed we are not going to win any thing.

 

[Stash]

I agree. McCoy would be a decent backup. But lets all face reality anyway. Be it Cassell, McCoy, or a rookie, the Cowboys aren't sniffing the playoffs without a healthy Romo. Which makes it more of a case for drafting the air apparent with the 4th pick.

Hey, I agree that no matter who they sign as a veteran backup, I'm still drafting my QB of the future. Make no mistake about that.

As far as Romo goes? Sure, if he goes down for as long as he did this year? Forget the playoffs. And fire this staff and start your rebuild. But, if he misses a few games, I think McCoy could capably drive this offensive bus to win a few games. He's shown me enough in Washington to believe that.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Hey, I agree that no matter who they sign as a veteran backup, I'm still drafting my QB of the future. Make no mistake about that.

As far as Romo goes? Sure, if he goes down for as long as he did this year? Forget the playoffs. And fire this staff and start your rebuild. But, if he misses a few games, I think McCoy could capably drive this offensive bus to win a few games. He's shown me enough in Washington to believe that.

We agree.

 

[the_h0wey]

2/13: The Cowboys could be interested in Colt McCoy. - Todd Archer, ESPN
Read more at http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/nflrumors/freeagency#VHL1GDybBGs6vJbq.99

The Cowboys are keeping their cards close to their chest this offseason, and while their has been much speculation over them drafting a quarterback, owner Jerry Jones has made it known that he doesn't believe his franchise must take a quarterback in the upcoming draft. If the Cowboys don't draft a quarterback and are looking to sign a viable backup option for Romo on the free agent market, Commanders quarterback Colt McCoy could be a "interesting option," according to ESPN's Todd Archer.

McCoy's agent represents Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett, and the quarterback they acquired at the beginning of last season was Cassel, according to Archer. For that reason, it's plausible to see a potential deal being done and McCoy returning to the state where he played in college. The former Longhorns quarterback would likely not be a long-term solution, but it would provide the Cowboys with a viable backup who can lead them to wins if needed.

http://www.hngn.com/articles/178965...colt-mccoy-interesting-option-free-agency.htm

This to me makes more sense than RG3.

 

[robjay04]

This is the type of thinking that we simply dont need in Dallas. Although sadly the people that run our franchise will probably agree with you. AFter watching Romo the last 4 years one could say that a rookie taken this year would play plenty. But even if he never did, he may not play for two years, but then he may play the next 15 years as our next possible Romo.

This team is no position to be thinking that we are one more player away or anything ridiculous like that.

And lets be realistic anyways...........Most rookies don't make an impact their first year anyway. We have 3 exceptional rookies this year and you cant say that one of them made a difference. Lawrence from two years ago finally made a difference the 2nd half of his 2nd year. But again, it made little difference with this woefully lacking roster.

The team is fine to think they are one offseason away. This is the NFL, teams change drastically one year to the next every season. Heck, we were 12-4 a year ago so that should show you. We were in every single game we lost going into the fourth quarter except 3 games this past season....Something tells me if we had our QB, we would've scored more points. Las Vegas is not just a bunch of Cowboy homers, there is a reason why our odds go up significantly going into a new season considering the injuries we had last year.

I want the team to draft a QB with that fourth pick if they feel like he is worth the pick, I don't want them drafting a QB just because they feel the "need". You have a higher chance to bust on that QB pick than most other positions taken at that spot. If the team does take a QB at 4, I want them to be a primary backup with a headset on, active on gameday soaking in everything they can from Tony Romo. If our number 4 pick isn't going to start right away...fine but something is wrong if we are drafting a guy to backup Colt McCoy.

Regardless---if Romo gets a injury week one and misses 6 games, if McCoy or whoever doesn't come in and win games right away...everybody on this board and the media will be screaming for Wentz or Goff to take over. Give it two games.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The team is fine to think they are one offseason away. This is the NFL, teams change drastically one year to the next every season. Heck, we were 12-4 a year ago so that should show you. We were in every single game we lost going into the fourth quarter except 3 games this past season....Something tells me if we had our QB, we would've scored more points. Las Vegas is not just a bunch of Cowboy homers, there is a reason why our odds go up significantly going into a new season considering the injuries we had last year.

I want the team to draft a QB with that fourth pick if they feel like he is worth the pick, I don't want them drafting a QB just because they feel the "need". You have a higher chance to bust on that QB pick than most other positions taken at that spot. If the team does take a QB at 4, I want them to be a primary backup with a headset on, active on gameday soaking in everything they can from Tony Romo. If our number 4 pick isn't going to start right away...fine but something is wrong if we are drafting a guy to backup Colt McCoy.

Regardless---if Romo gets a injury week one and misses 6 games, if McCoy or whoever doesn't come in and win games right away...everybody on this board and the media will be screaming for Wentz or Goff to take over. Give it two games.

They have been doing that for 20 years and havent done it. Why would anyone think they can do it in one year? You going to redo the 2ndary, pass rush, lbers, backup QB, RB, coaching problems in one year?

NO chance. And certainly not with Jerry Jones and Garrett running the show. Pipe dream is all that is. And dont bother telling me about teams that did it in the past. They didnt have Jones and Garrett running the show.

And then on top of it all, Romo has to stay healthy. Not going to happen.

And we were in every single game? Yah right. I knew we would lose everyone and so did everyone else.

Odds in vegas are based on perception, not reality. For example, they know there are some Cowboy fans that will think we are winning it all next year.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The team is fine to think they are one offseason away. This is the NFL, teams change drastically one year to the next every season. Heck, we were 12-4 a year ago so that should show you. We were in every single game we lost going into the fourth quarter except 3 games this past season....Something tells me if we had our QB, we would've scored more points. Las Vegas is not just a bunch of Cowboy homers, there is a reason why our odds go up significantly going into a new season considering the injuries we had last year.

I want the team to draft a QB with that fourth pick if they feel like he is worth the pick, I don't want them drafting a QB just because they feel the "need". You have a higher chance to bust on that QB pick than most other positions taken at that spot. If the team does take a QB at 4, I want them to be a primary backup with a headset on, active on gameday soaking in everything they can from Tony Romo. If our number 4 pick isn't going to start right away...fine but something is wrong if we are drafting a guy to backup Colt McCoy.

Regardless---if Romo gets a injury week one and misses 6 games, if McCoy or whoever doesn't come in and win games right away...everybody on this board and the media will be screaming for Wentz or Goff to take over. Give it two games.

But its nice to hear you agree on drafting a QB at 4. IF there is one worthy.

 

[robjay04]

They have been doing that for 20 years and havent done it. Why would anyone think they can do it in one year? You going to redo the 2ndary, pass rush, lbers, backup QB, RB, coaching problems in one year?

NO chance. And certainly not with Jerry Jones and Garrett running the show. Pipe dream is all that is. And dont bother telling me about teams that did it in the past. They didnt have Jones and Garrett running the show.

And then on top of it all, Romo has to stay healthy. Not going to happen.

And we were in every single game? Yah right. I knew we would lose everyone and so did everyone else.

Odds in vegas are based on perception, not reality. For example, they know there are some Cowboy fans that will think we are winning it all next year.

We can go back and forth but I don't see either one of us changing the other one's mind. This is an 8-8 team, give or take 2 games depending on how injuries shake out. We are in a weak division that we can easily win and every team in our conference has their weaknesses.

We don't have to fix all of those positions to compete----the main priority is to improve upon the worst QB play in the NFL and improve our passrush. I feel if we take care of those two spots, we can easily be a competitive football team.

Also, I agree we all knew the Cowboys were going to lose but the reason I knew we would lose is because of the awful QB play. Even average QB play would've made us a borderline 8-8 team but of course, this is just my opinion.

 

[CowboyRoy]

We can go back and forth but I don't see either one of us changing the other one's mind. This is an 8-8 team, give or take 2 games depending on how injuries shake out. We are in a weak division that we can easily win and every team in our conference has their weaknesses.

We don't have to fix all of those positions to compete----the main priority is to improve upon the worst QB play in the NFL and improve our passrush. I feel if we take care of those two spots, we can easily be a competitive football team.

Also, I agree we all knew the Cowboys were going to lose but the reason I knew we would lose is because of the awful QB play. Even average QB play would've made us a borderline 8-8 team but of course, this is just my opinion.

The difference is that I am not talking about being competitive or making the playoffs in a week NFC East. Im talking about winning the SB. I could care less about backing into the playoffs here and there. That does nothing for me and shouldnt do anything for Mr. Jones. Its about winning championships and the way to do that is have a team that is competitive year in and year out for the next 15 years. That is how you start. The best way to assure that is to draft the next Romo. We have seen that Jones doesnt have the ability to set up a complete team even with a great QB. I cant imagine how bad we would be over the last 10 years without Romo.

 

[CowboyRoy]

We can go back and forth but I don't see either one of us changing the other one's mind. This is an 8-8 team, give or take 2 games depending on how injuries shake out. We are in a weak division that we can easily win and every team in our conference has their weaknesses.

We don't have to fix all of those positions to compete----the main priority is to improve upon the worst QB play in the NFL and improve our passrush. I feel if we take care of those two spots, we can easily be a competitive football team.

Also, I agree we all knew the Cowboys were going to lose but the reason I knew we would lose is because of the awful QB play. Even average QB play would've made us a borderline 8-8 team but of course, this is just my opinion.

Average QB play could have, but we didnt have the coaching for that. Bad coaching and bad QB play will kill you every time when you combine with a poor defense.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Unless you are going to depend on a developmental QB to win you a few games then you are forced to get a vet FA QB.

I think with a better pass rush and defense we will have a defense that can help a backup a bit more.

You are thinking short term.

 

[jobberone]

You are thinking short term.

No, I'm chewing gum and walking at the same time. We have a SB contender, IMO, and you need to protect and enhance that window AMAP. A vet backup and a developmental QB hopefully this year no later than next fits the bill.