Cowboys need to stop faking, let Will McClay do his job in free agency

[KD Drummond]

awkward

 

[JBS]

Lololol

 

[Nightman]

 

[knightrider94]

How do we know it's really you KD?

 

[KD Drummond]

How do we know it's really you KD?

LOL- who would pretend to be me? I just came in here and saw two people call me Skip Bayless. Skip Bayless bruh. I don't think anyone is gonna take that two-piece combo if they don't have to haha

 

[Nightman]

LOL- who would pretend to be me? I just came in here and saw two people call me Skip Bayless. Skip Bayless bruh. I don't think anyone is gonna take that two-piece combo if they don't have to haha

Great attitude.........it is a tough but educated group for the most part

Best fan forum I have ever seen because of and in spite of the very strict rules

ps- I still believe strongly in TCrawford and DLawrence......tell them their role and let them prepare for it......instead of TCrawford trying to be a SDE as a 3T and DLawrence trying to be a WDE as SDE

 

[knightrider94]

LOL- who would pretend to be me? I just came in here and saw two people call me Skip Bayless. Skip Bayless bruh. I don't think anyone is gonna take that two-piece combo if they don't have to haha

Yeah, that is pretty rough. Skip isn't liked for the most part around here.

But seriously, this is the best forum. Plenty of opinions and spirited discussion.

BTW, you are a good Twitter follow.

I need some of that popcorn...

 

[Proximo]

The point of the article is that based on the players Will McClay has been able to find in the bargain bin, he deserves the opportunity to try his hand at identifying a top-tier free agent who can be the difference maker......The entire point is that McClay is the guy I want having a chance to figure out who that player is.

So, why are you making the assumption that Will McClay is ONLY allowed to look for players in the "bargain bin"?

You don't think he's already looking at ALL available FA's?

I think that he IS....it's just that none of them have been worth the price tag that they carry.

Clearly they thought Hardy could be "the guy", but it didn't work out. They paid him a pretty penny.

I don't think McClay is being handcuffed. You can't bring in a big time FA difference maker if there aren't any available. Forcing it is when you get burned. I'm glad we haven't been forcing it.

 

[Alexander]

First off, thanks for reading- I appreciate any time someone takes the time to click. I didn't discuss who McClay is exactly supposed to get because, for the purposes of the article that's somewhat irrelevant.

If you say so. To me, it is very relevant. Otherwise we are just talking about an idea, not a tangible and attainable solution.

The Cowboys have passed on any and all major pass rushers on the market when it comes to long-term deals. They are afraid of wasting their money. The point of the article is that based on the players Will McClay has been able to find in the bargain bin, he deserves the opportunity to try his hand at identifying a top-tier free agent who can be the difference maker Rod Marinelli has failed to find in the draft.

Again, nice idea. And maybe he does deserve the opportunity. But given the current state of the cap, all he could go and get is another Mayowa, Selvie,
Mincey etc. You are asking him to score a knockout when he can't even punch.

Who MY opinion of that guy is, for this article, irrelevant. The entire point is that McClay is the guy I want having a chance to figure out who that player is.

Still think you are making a case for something that simply is not realistic. Are you suggesting that McClay get the privilege to go after this prized free agent at the expense of blowing up whatever tiny strides made to avoid the cap busting they have made the last couple of years?

All in all, I agree with the idea. But I prefer not to dream.

I think if anything, they get out of the way and allow him to draft pass rushers for the future, not players who fit the short term vision that exists with Marinelli's scheme. That is my major complaint. Not that he be allowed to go out and snag a Chandler Jones, who might not necessarily be worth the additional cap heartache. This article would go down a lot better if we had $46 million laying around like the Patriots.

Do you not think he's a much better evaluator to do that than the previous regime?

Not sure who you are referring to in terms of "regime". If it is Power Jerry and his faithful doglike servant Lacewell, I agree. Can't help not to.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Great attitude.........it is a tough but educated group for the most part

Best fan forum I have ever seen because of and in spite of the very strict rules

ps- I still believe strongly in TCrawford and DLawrence......tell them their role and let them prepare for it......instead of TCrawford trying to be a SDE as a 3T and DLawrence trying to be a WDE as SDE

Agreed. I'm not quite ready to toss Crawford and Lawrence out in the trash. I thought Crawford did OK. Yeah he's overpaid but I can't see cutting him this offseason.

 

[Alexander]

So, why are you making the assumption that Will McClay is ONLY allowed to look for players in the "bargain bin"?

You don't think he's already looking at ALL available FA's?

I think that he IS....it's just that none of them have been worth the price tag that they carry.

Clearly they thought Hardy could be "the guy", but it didn't work out. They paid him a pretty penny.

I don't think McClay is being handcuffed. You can't bring in a big time FA difference maker if there aren't any available. Forcing it is when you get burned. I'm glad we haven't been forcing it.

He is being handcuffed organically by the state of the cap and the organization's (probably Stephen in theory) desire not to spend. That and he does not have his hands on the organizational wheel and never will.

 

[CF74]

First off, thanks for reading- I appreciate any time someone takes the time to click. I didn't discuss who McClay is exactly supposed to get because, for the purposes of the article that's somewhat irrelevant. The Cowboys have passed on any and all major pass rushers on the market when it comes to long-term deals. They are afraid of wasting their money. The point of the article is that based on the players Will McClay has been able to find in the bargain bin, he deserves the opportunity to try his hand at identifying a top-tier free agent who can be the difference maker Rod Marinelli has failed to find in the draft. Who MY opinion of that guy is, for this article, irrelevant. The entire point is that McClay is the guy I want having a chance to figure out who that player is.

Do you not think he's a much better evaluator to do that than the previous regime?

Who brought in Greg Hardy? Not attacking you but it's a good thing we didn't give him a long term deal. To me the best thing we can do is let the draft fall to us, no more selling the farm for that one special pick.

 

[Proximo]

He is being handcuffed organically by the state of the cap and the organization's (probably Stephen in theory) desire not to spend. That and he does not have his hands on the organizational wheel and never will.

I think if there was an FA out there that could be the difference maker we need, we'd pony up and pay.

We tried with Hardy and it just didn't work out.

The FO's desire to not overpay is a good thing.

 

[Alexander]

Agreed. I'm not quite ready to toss Crawford and Lawrence out in the trash. I thought Crawford did OK. Yeah he's overpaid but I can't see cutting him this offseason.

A lot of people see "cut" and get all excited.

If he were cut tomorrow, the primary reason I would get excited is that it would make them get serious about the problem and not feel that "we're good".

Right now, Crawford is barely a decent fourth lineman and yet the organization still clings to the idea he is some budding star because they don't want to look at his level of play and admit the mistake they did by paying him like he was one. They paid him for potential, and I struggled then to see exactly what that really was and what they thought they saw. Irving made more plays this year than he has his entire career and I still would not lock him up to the kind of deal they handed Crawford. Being pathologically optimistic and lying to themselves, even about a mediocre player is a big problem with this organization.

It is this every day:

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I'd love to add jpp but none of you are funny enough to be trusted with that responsibility

 

[MichaelWinicki]

A lot of people see "cut" and get all excited.

If he were cut tomorrow, the primary reason I would get excited is that it would make them get serious about the problem and not feel that "we're good".

Right now, Crawford is barely a decent fourth lineman and yet the organization still clings to the idea he is some budding star because they don't want to look at his level of play and admit the mistake they did by paying him like he was one. They paid him for potential, and I struggled then to see exactly what that really was and what they thought they saw. Irving made more plays this year than he has his entire career and I still would not lock him up to the kind of deal they handed Crawford. Being pathologically optimistic and lying to themselves, even about a mediocre player is a big problem with this organization.

It is this every day:

Yep, I see Crawford being part of the DT-rotation.

He's miscast as a 4-3 DE.

 

[Alexander]

I think if there was an FA out there that could be the difference maker we need, we'd pony up and pay.

Pony up how? Blow up the cap now and in the immediate future to even get just the privilege to compete for the services?

We tried with Hardy and it just didn't work out.

The FO's desire to not overpay is a good thing.

Not sure I understand how you think Hardy is even close to comparing. Hardy was not ponying up and playing. It was a shot in the dark with a very troubled player that not a lot of teams wanted. We were bidding against ourselves for the most part.

That is radically different than being a player in high stakes free agency. A real difference maker can be bought by the number of teams with significantly better cap situations than Dallas has. What would make Dallas the front runner for anybody? We have seen even middling free agents like Chris Long turn up their noses and head elsewhere. If you are deluded and think the Cowboys are admired by free agents as being a place to get a ring, well, the Patriots could easily outbid Dallas and would not have to cut a player or extend out a contract because their cap is in line and sustainable.

The front office does not "desire" to overpay mainly because they can't. It is more restraint out of necessity and the current state of things. It is not a mindset they learned from anywhere. They would probably do another bad Brandon Carr deal in a second and meanwhile they would be applauded for their restraint?

 

[gmoney112]

Well, for all those that don't think we'd spend a decent amount on a difference marker, they did gamble with Hardy.

Now, they just need to spend the money on a guy with a brain instead.

 

[Alexander]

Yep, I see Crawford being part of the DT-rotation.

He's miscast as a 4-3 DE.

But I bet you that Marinelli thinks he is a difference making 3-T, which he isn't and never will be. There is not a lineman on this roster I would trust to start if I could remake the line from scratch. Collins is the only one close and I am not even sold on him. The rest should be reserves if we really wanted to field a quality DL.

 

[NeonNinja]

This thread just got real.