Twitter: Cowboys place 2nd-Rd Tender on David Irving

[Alexander]

And remember, he was part of the group that wanted to kneel during the anthem. Can't have that kind of locker room cancer around.

 

[gimmesix]

It seems to me that there is enough there to make it so he does not get a huge offer. I think someone mentioned this the other day. If he gets a lower offer because of the issues then Dallas gets the opportunity to match it and keep him for a whole lot lower deal than they would have to offer if he had a huge season. Then you have to make the choice you are making right now with Lawrence.

It could be a smart move!

Have you seen the deals teams are throwing at players who accomplished less at their position than Irving did at his last year?

 

[Risen Star]

Nipple rings. He has nipple rings.

I mean maybe there is something to worry about but why are we so quick to believe that with Irving while we are delusionally protective of other players?

 

[Alexander]

if we don't have to give Suh a monster contract.

And that is not a possibility.

 

[Alexander]

I mean maybe there is something to worry about but why are we so quick to believe that with Irving while we are delusionally protective of other players?

Good question.

Don't expect an answer though.

 

[Ken]

I wonder if everyone who is calling him trash would change their tune if he played a full season next year and had 12-14 sacks?

 

[Hennessy_King]

OK, we take the second and package it, what are we going to do at 3-tech?

If the choice is to stay with Collins as the starting 3-tech, then we are weaker at that position.

If the choice is to use the two picks for a replacement for Irving, then it's possible we could come out ahead as far as getting a better player, but we gained nothing overall because we had to use the picks to replace someone we already had on the roster instead of getting help at a position of need.

You go out in FA and actually get a starter at DT whether it's Suh or Poe and have collins at 3t where he almost won rookie of the year.

 

[Alexander]

Can't have this kind of guy around. Nipple rings. Tats. Raised fist at the anthem. Naked pictures.

 

[Sydla]

The concussion thing worries me a bit. I would like to know if he was cleared and refused to play or what the deal was there.


Other then that I could care less about all of the other stuff.

Let Dak be the face of the franchise. Surround him by guys that are good at football. I don't care how odd they are and I don't think other teams care much either.

Does it matter if he refused to play?

Roughly a month after having what was initially called a simple concussion, he essentially blacked out and got into a car accident. There's nothing normal about that.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

I mean maybe there is something to worry about but why are we so quick to believe that with Irving while we are delusionally protective of other players?

Sadly because Jerry feels like he's Dez's daddy... He took a chance and drafted him, hired a babysitter, paid him, and now wants it work out..

 

[CATCH17]

Does it matter if he refused to play?

Roughly a month after having what was initially called a simple concussion, he essentially blacked out and got into a car accident. There's nothing normal about that.

We need more details and yes it matters if he refused to play if cleared.


We were fighting for a playoff spot and needed to win out and if Irving was ok to play and didn't want to play just to be extra cautious then I would look to move him.

 

[Alexander]

I wonder if everyone who is calling him trash would change their tune if he played a full season next year and had 12-14 sacks?

What is funny is that he is unreliable and trash, nobody wants him, but if he is not signed by someone else, it is okay to pay him the $2.5M.

 

[Gameover]

He wouldnt crack the Backup Rotation on that D-Line.

Ignored

 

[gimmesix]

You go out in FA and actually get a starter at DT whether it's Suh or Poe and have collins at 3t where he almost won rookie of the year.

What gives you the idea that Dallas would do that? Have you seen the FA moves we've made the past few years?

Putting a second-round tender on Irving means Dallas is OK with the risk probably because they have Collins or because they feel they can replace him in the first round with someone like Hurst. If we lose him, the best we can probably hope for is the Joneses sign a cheap vet starter for 1-tech because Collins would be the projected starter at 3-tech.

If you're satisfied with Collins as a 3-tech, then this is a good move for you. If you're not, then this is not a good move.

 

[Sydla]

We need more details and yes it matters if he refused to play if cleared.


We were fighting for a playoff spot and needed to win out and if Irving was ok to play and didn't want to play just to be extra cautious then I would look to move him.

He was never cleared. Cowboys came out and said he was shut down for the season. If he was having severe concussion issues by mid-December, it seems unlikely he could have been cleared anyway.

 

[aikemirv]

Have you seen the deals teams are throwing at players who accomplished less at their position than Irving did at his last year?

8 games though, it has to hurt the value a bit. Cowboys may be taking this opportunity to get a lower deal while his value could be perceived down

What is a deal that you would make for him? If someone throws a 10 mil a year deal out there, I think that is a deal the Cowboys would consider. If it is 15 mill, then you let him walk and take the 2nd. If you are not willing to tag him next year, this is a smart move IMO.

 

[kevm3]

Irving will be signed away and Lawrence will go to another team next year when some team throws him obscene money. No wonder marinelli wants to retire.

 

[CIWhitefish]

Good move that I'm glad is finally done. Let someone else set his market if they want to. We can match, get a second rounder, or have the player for a prove it year. I call that win-win-win.

 

[4lifecowboy]

I think it's the right move.
I HONESTLY think they're going after Suh

Lose one head case to pick up another at a higher price?

 

[Hennessy_King]

What gives you the idea that Dallas would do that? Have you seen the FA moves we've made the past few years?

Putting a second-round tender on Irving means Dallas is OK with the risk probably because they have Collins or because they feel they can replace him in the first round with someone like Hurst. If we lose him, the best we can probably hope for is the Joneses sign a cheap vet starter for 1-tech because Collins would be the projected starter at 3-tech.

If you're satisfied with Collins as a 3-tech, then this is a good move for you. If you're not, then this is not a good move.

I think if they don't have plans to make a run at a starter in free agency the move is stupid.