Cowboys RB's ranked 26th

[big dog cowboy]

The front office has done a good job the last three years or so, but they was horrible for the previous 20 years. They are overdue for a screw up.

All I see is home runs. They are on a big time roll right now.

 

[ShiningStar]

Anybody here think the Cowboys will have the 26th best rushing attack?

i dont think we wil at the end of the season, but lets be fair and say who knwos what will come of this group.

 

[benson]

The only thing Murray proved is that he can run through truck sized holes and when he does he will do so slowly and with a propensity to fumble.

Any of the top 20 RBs last season would have had similar production. Our problem is that we don't have a top 20 RB on this team, at least that we know of.

 

[jnday]

All I see is home runs. They are on a big time roll right now.

The odds are going to catch up with them. DMac will be it.

 

[KJJ]

Not sure how you know for certain if any RB might be released that could aid our cause at RB. I'm not privy to owning the crystal ball that divulges that information. This thing bears watching before I'm inclined to throw in the towel on any glimmer of hope. You might want to reconsider giving up before climbing atop that ledge. A lot can happen in three months. Who knows, you might even be pleasantly surprised in August or September.

Nobody is claiming the situation to be ideal or even promising but nevertheless, it bears watching. The Cowboys' OL will do whatever it can to make the best of a situation that's far from ideal. In the meantime, I won't be troubling myself with visions of our offense's doom and gloom -- it's not conducive to good health. Vet RBs will be waived before the regular season begins. One or two might actually prove worthwhile.

I'm not saying an RB that might be released couldn't aid their cause some if it's a big thick thumper who can move piles in tough yardage situations but you're talking about one that could raise the rating of the entire group and I don't see a back being released that has the talent to do that unless they're released due to an off the field incident. Someone posted that the Cowboys RB's were ranked 21st heading into last season and that was with Murray putting up over 1100 yards in 2013. It would take a real productive back to raise the rating of the current group and do you see a back currently on a roster that could possibly be released this summer that looks more capable than any of the Cowboys current RB's? I don't see a back that could be on the bubble that I would take over Randle at least he showed some potential last season with the opportunities he got. He did look faster and quicker than Murray and if he struggles this summer behind an OL that should be even better in 2015 then good luck finding a cut casualty that will be an improvement over him.

For the rating of the Cowboys RB group to increase it's going to take production from at least 2 backs giving the team a solid one-two punch. It's not easy getting solid production from a back who didn't go through OTA's, mini camp and little to no training camp with your team. I know the Pats added Blount during the season last year and he provided some help but the Pats offense revolves around Brady and the passing game. If the Cowboys intend on being the solid running team they were last season I believe the production has to come from the backs they've been working with throughout the offseason. This may be an average group of backs but they aren't terrible and if the Cowboys can't get solid production with them as part of a committee behind arguably the best OL in football then their running game is going to be in trouble and no cut casualty this summer is going to rectify the situation.

 

[Bullflop]

I'm not saying an RB that might be released couldn't aid their cause some if it's a big thick thumper who can move piles in tough yardage situations but you're talking about one that could raise the rating of the entire group and I don't see a back being released that has the talent to do that unless they're released due to an off the field incident. Someone posted that the Cowboys RB's were ranked 21st heading into last season and that was with Murray putting up over 1100 yards in 2013. It would take a real productive back to raise the rating of the current group and do you see a back currently on a roster that could possibly be released this summer that looks more capable than any of the Cowboys current RB's? I don't see a back that could be on the bubble that I would take over Randle at least he showed some potential last season with the opportunities he got. He did look faster and quicker than Murray and if he struggles this summer behind an OL that should be even better in 2015 then good luck finding a cut casualty that will be an improvement over him.

For the rating of the Cowboys RB group to increase it's going to take production from at least 2 backs giving the team a solid one-two punch. It's not easy getting solid production from a back who didn't go through OTA's, mini camp and little to no training camp with your team. I know the Pats added Blount during the season last year and he provided some help but the Pats offense revolves around Brady and the passing game. If the Cowboys intend on being the solid running team they were last season I believe the production has to come from the backs they've been working with throughout the offseason. This may be an average group of backs but they aren't terrible and if the Cowboys can't get solid production with them as part of a committee behind arguably the best OL in football then their running game is going to be in trouble and no cut casualty this summer is going to rectify the situation.

I believe you're mistaken in saying it would take 2 backs to improve our chances. We already have a highly capable back in Randle. In the event we were able to get one that was capable of producing the ability to get the so-called "dirty yards," we'd more than likely be in business. Unfortunately, such a back is yet to be acquired but we don't know for certain that one bearing that ability won't be there for the taking when the final cuts come. You seem to be saying it's hopeless and I'm simply contending it remains to be seen. One can either choose to be optimistic or opt to whine about a condition that leaves something to be desired.

Last year, nobody would have given a plug nickel that our defense would turn out to be as productive as it became at year's end. Many figured that was unlikely as well. It's far from hopeless that someone not now in the picture could be acquired. If not, we're left to hope for the best with what we have. I seriously doubt we'll be inclined to be satisfied to settle for that for 3 months. If so, all the whining in the world won't aid our cause nor make it any more bearable. I'll give it time before throwing in the towel on all hope being beyond reach. In the event you'd prefer to wallow in discontent, by all means, you're free to do so. That's just not for me at this point.

 

[KJJ]

I believe you're mistaken in saying it would take 2 backs to improve our chances. We already have a highly capable back in Randle. In the event we were able to get one that was capable of producing the ability to get the so-called "dirty yards," we'd more than likely be in business. Unfortunately, such a back is yet to be acquired but we don't know for certain that one bearing that ability won't be there for the taking when the final cuts come. You seem to be saying it's hopeless and I'm simply contending it remains to be seen. One can either choose to be optimistic or opt to whine about a condition that leaves something to be desired.

Last year, nobody would have given a plug nickel that our defense would turn out to be as productive as it became at year's end. Many figured that was unlikely as well. It's far from hopeless that someone not now in the picture could be acquired. If not, we're left to hope for the best with what we have. I seriously doubt we'll be inclined to be satisfied to settle for that for 3 months. If so, all the whining in the world won't aid our cause nor make it any more bearable. I'll give it time before throwing in the towel on all hope being beyond reach. In the event you'd prefer to wallow in discontent, by all means, you're free to do so. That's just not for me at this point.

Although Randle showed potential last season in a limited role we have no idea if he's "highly capable" as you put it of more than just popping a lengthy run on a handful of carries until he proves he can get it done with a bigger workload. He has to show he can pick up 4-5 yards consistently. He's never averaged more than 3.4 yards per carry in the 4 games he received 10 or more carries so the jury is still out on him. If you read my post I'm in no way saying it's hopeless of picking up a back that can pick up the tough yards. I said "I'm not saying an RB that might be released couldn't aid their cause some if it's a big thick thumper who can move the piles in tough yardage situations." Does that sound like I'm throwing in the towel on the possibility of acquiring a back like that? What I don't think is very likely (certainly not impossible) is acquiring a back during the final cuts that can out perform the backs we currently have and be the one we depend on all season. I don't see a back who might be on the bubble for another team that looks more talented than the backs we have. As for the defense last season it wasn't very productive it was near the bottom of the league in sacks but there was some improvement due to the D spending an average of 12 fewer plays on the field than in 2013. The D didn't get it done vs the Packers in the playoffs and has a long way to go to be a solid unit which is why the Cowboys used their first 2 picks on defense.

After what happened last season no one is giving up on the possibility of anything happening so if you're reading "hopelessness" into my posts you're reading wrong. Just because I don't think something is very likely to happen doesn't mean it's impossible. Your original post talked about picking up a back that would raise the rating of our entire group of backs and it would take a very productive back in 2015 to do that. It's not very likely a back like that will be released this summer. Barring injury the Cowboys "starting" RB is currently on the team. If they're going to continue having a top flight running game two backs are going to have to produce because the Cowboys aren't going to get 1400 plus yards out of one back. Am I completely ruling it out? No, but I think it's highly unlikely because if the team leans on one back too much it increases the likelihood they'll be injured. We need to balance out the load to try and keep everyone healthy because an injury or a rash of them could derail our running game and the season. It would be nice to keep one back relatively fresh for the second half. Having a fresh set of legs banging at defenses in the 3rd and 4th quarter could give our running game something not even last years team had with Murray handling most of the carries.

 

[Bullflop]

Although Randle showed potential last season in a limited role we have no idea if he's "highly capable" as you put it of more than just popping a lengthy run on a handful of carries until he proves he can get it done with a bigger workload. He has to show he can pick up 4-5 yards consistently. He's never averaged more than 3.4 yards per carry in the 4 games he received 10 or more carries so the jury is still out on him. If you read my post I'm in no way saying it's hopeless of picking up a back that can pick up the tough yards. I said "I'm not saying an RB that might be released couldn't aid their cause some if it's a big thick thumper who can move the piles in tough yardage situations." Does that sound like I'm throwing in the towel on the possibility of acquiring a back like that? What I don't think is very likely (certainly not impossible) is acquiring a back during the final cuts that can out perform the backs we currently have and be the one we depend on all season. I don't see a back who might be on the bubble for another team that looks more talented than the backs we have. As for the defense last season it wasn't very productive it was near the bottom of the league in sacks but there was some improvement due to the D spending an average of 12 fewer plays on the field than in 2013. The D didn't get it done vs the Packers in the playoffs and has a long way to go to be a solid unit which is why the Cowboys used their first 2 picks on defense.

After what happened last season no one is giving up on the possibility of anything happening so if you're reading "hopelessness" into my posts you're reading wrong. Just because I don't think something is very likely to happen doesn't mean it's impossible. Your original post talked about picking up a back that would raise the rating of our entire group of backs and it would take a very productive back in 2015 to do that. It's not very likely a back like that will be released this summer. Barring injury the Cowboys "starting" RB is currently on the team. If they're going to continue having a top flight running game two backs are going to have to produce because the Cowboys aren't going to get 1400 plus yards out of one back. Am I completely ruling it out? No, but I think it's highly unlikely because if the team leans on one back too much it increases the likelihood they'll be injured. We need to balance out the load to try and keep everyone healthy because an injury or a rash of them could derail our running game and the season. It would be nice to keep one back relatively fresh for the second half. Having a fresh set of legs banging at defenses in the 3rd and 4th quarter could give our running game something not even last years team had with Murray handling most of the carries.

 

[KJJ]

Bullflop apparently my post left you speechless. lol

 

[Bullflop]

Bullflop apparently my post left you speechless. lol

Hardly. I left a long-winded response that was eliminated due to the time running out. To make a long story short, I'm happy to hear you won't be jumping off the ledge I pictured you perched atop. Here's hoping you feel better and somewhat more optimistic in a few months. Glad to hear you agree that things aren't hopeless. They're not.

 

[KJJ]

Hardly. I left a long-winded response that was eliminated due to the time running out. Basically, I'm happy to hear you won't be jumping off the ledge I pictured you perched atop. Here's hoping you feel better and somewhat more optimistic in a few months. Glad to hear you agree that things aren't hopeless. They're not.

That must have been one hell of a long winded response for it to be eliminated due to time running out. Can't imagine the post you quoted requiring a novel in response. If you had me pictured on top of a ledge then you have me pictured all wrong. It's obvious you're having a very difficult time comprehending what I'm trying to convey even though I've made my position crystal clear. I think we've covered this enough.

 

[Bullflop]

That must have been one hell of a long winded response for it to be eliminated due to time running out. Can't imagine the post you quoted requiring a novel in response. If you had me pictured on top of a ledge then you have me pictured all wrong. It's obvious you're having a very difficult time comprehending what I'm trying to convey even though I've made my position crystal clear. I think we've covered this enough.

It's wishful thinking and arrogant on your part to insinuate that I'm not comprehending. I could say the same about you but don't really see any point in getting abrasively personal. You're a fine one to talk about novels! Hah!

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

It's not simply the never ending pessimism, the endless search for negativity on the sunniest of days, or the wide-eyed narcissism. It's comments like this

"It's obvious you're having a very difficult time comprehending what I'm trying to convey even though I've made my position crystal clear."


that reveal your inability to properly deal with others. Ironically, this attitude has led you to strike half the board from your list of acceptable conversationalists. I'm proud to have played a small part in your continued spiral to irrelevance.

 

[KJJ]

It's wishful thinking and arrogant on your part to insinuate that I'm not comprehending. I could say the same about you but don't really see any point in getting abrasively personal. You're a fine one to talk about novels! Hah!

Saying that you're having a difficult time comprehending what I'm saying is not getting personal and certainly not abrasively personal. You clearly did not understand the points I was making to feel the need to respond back with a novel. I've never spent so much time on a post that it got eliminated due to time restraints. lol This discussion is over.

 

[DandyDon52]

Hardly. I left a long-winded response that was eliminated due to the time running out. To make a long story short, I'm happy to hear you won't be jumping off the ledge I pictured you perched atop. Here's hoping you feel better and somewhat more optimistic in a few months. Glad to hear you agree that things aren't hopeless. They're not.

hmm I have typed a post and forgot to hit post and come back hour later and hit post and it posts.
Might have some length restrictions here?

 

[DandyDon52]

The difference between a 1 RB offense and RB by committee, is with 1 RB the defense does not know what is coming.
With several that have different strengths, the defense can play to those type plays which give the defense a advantage.

 

[Bullflop]

Saying that you're having a difficult time comprehending what I'm saying is not getting personal and certainly not abrasively personal. You clearly did not understand the points I was making to feel the need to respond back with a novel. I've never spent so much time on a post that it got eliminated due to time restraints. lol This discussion is over.

Thank God -- Go in peace, obsessive one -- but the main thing is . . . just go!

 

[Bullflop]

hmm I have typed a post and forgot to hit post and come back hour later and hit post and it posts.
Might have some length restrictions here?

Nope, I made some corrections early and 20 minutes later the whole thing got erased due to expiration of time for corrections. I.E., the whole thing got canned due to the correctional time limit. It was already past time to abandon a fruitless exchange anyway. Most of us post to exchange ideas, while some do so to argue and win. Posting to argue, assert dominance and win just doesn't resemble a fruitful and friendly exchange of ideas, imo.

 

[KJJ]

Thank God -- Go in peace, obsessive one -- but the main thing is . . . just go!

You're the one who's going you've been blocked!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Say what you want but Jerra is safing a lot of monies this year by not keeping Murray.the NFL rushing leader.