News: Cowboys Risers and Fallers

[LocimusPrime]

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...ame-taco-charlton-damontre-moore-rico-gathers

The article says Moore was the best pass rusher on the cowboys.

 

[LocimusPrime]

 

[ShiningStar]

nothing new nothing exciting, basing the whole article on some players that got to play against others that didnt. Morris looked great in TC and pre season last season, wasnt all that during the season. I dont want to freak our fans out but there are some TC/Pre season warriors out there.

If i have to roll the dice, yes as much as it hurts, McFadden is the odd man. Morris wont injure as easily right now. Mc Fadden might get a yard or two more throughout the entire season, but at the end of the day, its EE's stable and we have Hillman, one of the Smiths and yes, if it comes down to that, Morris goes as well, not enough ball to go around. Id be happy with 3 backs and 1 FB.

Defensive players going against a vanilla scheme, dont hate me if im not impressed. I dont need a ranking system just need to know if they understand job and how their technique is. Being a preseason warrior is not enough.

For the game itself, Dallas did what it did and the players did their part. We wont see all of them make the 53 , so dont get attached.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Who's 58?

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

Mine as well feed my own agenda with the "I knew Taco was gonna suck" line, cause I did. I am however intrigued with D.Moore he seems really quick and swift

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Who's 58?

Demontrae Moore

 

[CATCH17]

I had Tapper as well.

Tapper looked pretty good.

 

[plasticman]

nothing new nothing exciting, basing the whole article on some players that got to play against others that didnt. Morris looked great in TC and pre season last season, wasnt all that during the season. I dont want to freak our fans out but there are some TC/Pre season warriors out there.

If i have to roll the dice, yes as much as it hurts, McFadden is the odd man. Morris wont injure as easily right now. Mc Fadden might get a yard or two more throughout the entire season, but at the end of the day, its EE's stable and we have Hillman, one of the Smiths and yes, if it comes down to that, Morris goes as well, not enough ball to go around. Id be happy with 3 backs and 1 FB.

Defensive players going against a vanilla scheme, dont hate me if im not impressed. I dont need a ranking system just need to know if they understand job and how their technique is. Being a preseason warrior is not enough.

For the game itself, Dallas did what it did and the players did their part. We wont see all of them make the 53 , so dont get attached.

I have to agree, nothing exciting. It has always aemed to be that a real "find" impresses right out the gate and will consistantly do so throughout the preseason. Both DeMarco Murray and Dak Prescott was like that. As a matter of fact, so was Tony Romo in 2003.

I would say the "star" of the game was Rico and I hope he continues to impress.

However, I didn't see the DE stud this team so desperately needs. Charlton played against baxkups and couldn't get close to making a play. If he is a non- factor next game then he is most likely a non factor, period.

 

[Alexander]

The article says Moore was the best pass rusher on the cowboys.

At least of who played the other night, he looked the most active and more intent on getting home.

Everyone else looked like they were more concerned about carrying out assignments.

Nobody knows if there was scheming involved, but that is not likely.

Sometimes you want hair on fire, he came the closest.

 

[Zekeats]

I had Tapper as well.

Tapper looked pretty good.

Only going to get better. He's got the measurables just needs the reps after missing a year.

 

[gimmesix]

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...ame-taco-charlton-damontre-moore-rico-gathers

The article says Moore was the best pass rusher on the cowboys.

I went back and watched him closely in the first half and disagree. He had one decent pass rush and a good run defense play, but he wasn't getting close to the QB. And considering he was an experienced vet going against backups, that's not all that good.

I thought Taco and Tapper were both better than Moore. Maybe Moore did better in the second half.

 

[gimmesix]

However, I didn't see the DE stud this team so desperately needs. Charlton played against baxkups and couldn't get close to making a play. If he is a non- factor next game then he is most likely a non factor, period.

Charlton was good off the snap at getting up the field, but couldn't figure out how to bend the rush back to the quarterback. He tried running around the tackle a little and it didn't work (partly because he got chipped on one play, then acted like he thought he was going to get chipped on another) and partly because his spin move was ineffective.

I felt good about his ability to get penetration, but he's going to have to use those long arms to control tackles so he can rip and cut inside or jerk and go around.

 

[diefree666]

I think we need to come to understand and accept that we are NOT going to have another Demarcus Ware. Players like that come along once in a generation and we wasted this one.
What we can have is 4 guys or so that come up with 6 sacks or so each. Which will get the job done. That is basically what the Giants had winning their 2 SBs. And we have a MUCH better offense then they did.

4 DE's that we can rotate that get some; and a couple of DTs that we can rotate that get some. Put it all together and it will work.

 

[Alexander]

I think we need to come to understand and accept that we are NOT going to have another Demarcus Ware. Players like that come along once in a generation and we wasted this one.
What we can have is 4 guys or so that come up with 6 sacks or so each. Which will get the job done. That is basically what the Giants had winning their 2 SBs. And we have a MUCH better offense then they did.

4 DE's that we can rotate that get some; and a couple of DTs that we can rotate that get some. Put it all together and it will work.

Sounds like a sermon from the pulpit of Marinelli.

 

[xwalker]

Charlton was good off the snap at getting up the field, but couldn't figure out how to bend the rush back to the quarterback. He tried running around the tackle a little and it didn't work (partly because he got chipped on one play, then acted like he thought he was going to get chipped on another) and partly because his spin move was ineffective.

I felt good about his ability to get penetration, but he's going to have to use those long arms to control tackles so he can rip and cut inside or jerk and go around.

I thought Taco showed more of what coaches/scouts look for in a preseason game than Moore or Tapper.

He was able to rock the OT back more than once, show good hand usage and leverage, not stay tied to blocks, show power against the run, show the ability to "break down" and turn the corner and show a good first step.

A lot of what we liked about David Irving last season was what I saw in Taco, but Taco is quicker.

Tapper has incredible speed but that's it. He didn't turn the corner or man handle the OT like Taco. He was good against the run but he is very raw as an outside pass rusher.

Moore was decent slipping into the backfield a few times but he is an experienced player that should have looked drastically better than Taco at this point. I don't think he is any quicker than Taco but it might look like it because he takes shorter steps.

I've seen DWare in his prime go more than 16 snaps with minimal pressure. There are normally about 70 snaps on defense in a game and good pass rushers often average less than 1 sack per game. Taco's 16 snaps were less than 1/4 of the 70 snaps. Greg Hardy averaged about 64 snaps per game which is 4x Taco's snaps.

If Taco had 4 games like this and got 1 sack, it would be equivalent to 16 sacks per season by a top pass rusher.

 

[gimmesix]

I thought Taco showed more of what coaches/scouts look for in a preseason game than Moore or Tapper.

He was able to rock the OT back more than once, show good hand usage and leverage, not stay tied to blocks, show power against the run, show the ability to "break down" and turn the corner and show a good first step.

A lot of what we liked about David Irving last season was what I saw in Taco, but Taco is quicker.

Tapper has incredible speed but that's it. He didn't turn the corner or man handle the OT like Taco. He was good against the run but he is very raw as an outside pass rusher.

Moore was decent slipping into the backfield a few times but he is an experienced player that should have looked drastically better than Taco at this point. I don't think he is any quicker than Taco but it might look like it because he takes shorter steps.

I've seen DWare in his prime go more than 16 snaps with minimal pressure. There are normally about 70 snaps on defense in a game and good pass rushers often average less than 1 sack per game. Taco's 16 snaps were less than 1/4 of the 70 snaps. Greg Hardy averaged about 64 snaps per game which is 4x Taco's snaps.

If Taco had 4 games like this and got 1 sack, it would be equivalent to 16 sacks per season by a top pass rusher.

Just went through the second half, primarily looking at Gathers on offense and Moore and Tapper on defense.

Gathers is a better blocker than I thought he would be. He uses his hands well, but where he gets in trouble is that he stays too upright and loses the leverage battle. There were a few times where he got rocked back because of this, but he held his own a lot despite it. He needs to watch Witten some on his route running and find the soft spot instead of just running the route even if the defenders are just waiting for him.

Tapper has a better inside knife move than I would have expected. He used that several times, especially against the run to penetrate because he hits it quick. That was probably his best move. He shows a little power and certainly has the speed, but he was only effective when he either knifed or tried to outrun the tackle around the edge, which he was able to do effectively a couple of times for one good pressure and one slight pressure.

Moore was better off the snap with power than speed. When he's stymied initially, he keeps throwing moves at the blocker to try to get free, which may be why some think he did well. I counted a couple of snaps in the first half where he was effective and a couple in the second, but he probably played more than any other end. In a way, Moore was all flash, juking, swatting, etc., and little substance.

 

[Kaiser]

I don't have All 22 but I didn't see Moore as the best pass rusher. At all. And other than Broaddus making this "not bad" comment on Twitter this is the only thing I've seen where someone in print said Moore was our best pass rusher.

 

[Verdict]

I thought Taco showed more of what coaches/scouts look for in a preseason game than Moore or Tapper.

He was able to rock the OT back more than once, show good hand usage and leverage, not stay tied to blocks, show power against the run, show the ability to "break down" and turn the corner and show a good first step.

A lot of what we liked about David Irving last season was what I saw in Taco, but Taco is quicker.

Tapper has incredible speed but that's it. He didn't turn the corner or man handle the OT like Taco. He was good against the run but he is very raw as an outside pass rusher.

Moore was decent slipping into the backfield a few times but he is an experienced player that should have looked drastically better than Taco at this point. I don't think he is any quicker than Taco but it might look like it because he takes shorter steps.

I've seen DWare in his prime go more than 16 snaps with minimal pressure. There are normally about 70 snaps on defense in a game and good pass rushers often average less than 1 sack per game. Taco's 16 snaps were less than 1/4 of the 70 snaps. Greg Hardy averaged about 64 snaps per game which is 4x Taco's snaps.

If Taco had 4 games like this and got 1 sack, it would be equivalent to 16 sacks per season by a top pass rusher.

All that sounds great X, but Taco was playing against guys that won't be on an NFL roster in a month and didn't sniff a sack. If that was Ware in his prime playing against those scrubs he would have been in the QBs face or sacking him on almost every play. Let's not forget the level of competition Taco faced.

 

[Verdict]

Marinelli essentially called out Taco as playing like ****. So either he played like ****, or he thinks he can do a lot better and is trying to motivate him. Let's hope it is the latter.

Assuming Taco actually has something to contribute to the team he should have learned a lot playing the first game, along with the film study he will get between now and the next game. If he has real potential, we should see significant improvement in his play in the second game.

 

[waving monkey]

I have to agree, nothing exciting. It has always aemed to be that a real "find" impresses right out the gate and will consistantly do so throughout the preseason. Both DeMarco Murray and Dak Prescott was like that. As a matter of fact, so was Tony Romo in 2003.

I would say the "star" of the game was Rico and I hope he continues to impress.

However, I didn't see the DE stud this team so desperately needs. Charlton played against baxkups and couldn't get close to making a play. If he is a non- factor next game then he is most likely a non factor, period.

Is ir fair to say; not many DE's impress first pre-season game.