Cowboys Secret QB Sauce?

[T-RO]

Are we drafting the hell out of quarterbacks the past two years? Maybe. Or maybe there's something to be said for how we are developing and deploying our kid quarterbacks.

Rookie Cowboys quarterbacks could be rising fast and true in large part because of the secret sauce cooked up by Scott Linehan.

Consider Linehan's history with quarterbacks:
2002-2004, Vikings......Daunte Culpepper had big time success under Linehan and the Vikings were 2nd in total yards. Culpepper enjoyed his best years w/Linehan formulating the recipes.

A few years later with St. Louis, Linehan was tested by needing to build an offense around Marc Bulgar. He succeeded. Rams offense ranked sixth in total yards, fourth in passing, and 10th in points per game.

Then with Linehan in Detroit working for the Lions... Matt Stafford threw for 5,038, 4,967, and 4,650 yards respectively. He also amassed 90 passing touchdowns and won NFL Comeback Player of the Year in 2011.

Linehan seems on a career trajectory similar to Wade Phillips:
-Failed in short stint as head coach
-Mild-mannered, not perhaps tough enough for head coach
-Brilliantly successful on one side of the ball.

The guy might be something of a quarterback-whisperer


*Credit to Michael Sisemore at Blogging the Boys for some of the history and numbers.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Man, did Culpepper flame out after a strong start. Now I'm paranoid. Thanks, bro.

 

[JoeKing]

Wow, my dyslexia kicked in bigtime when I read that heading. I thought it read, "Cowboy's Secret BQ sauce". I bet that would be delicious.

 

[T-RO]

Man, did Culpepper flame out after a strong start. Now I'm paranoid. Thanks, bro.

LOL.

Dak is better. And hopefully we'll have continuity with Linehan sticking around.

 

[T-RO]

I was sure someone was going to bring up Linehan and his pet Moore.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Are we drafting the hell out of quarterbacks the past two years? Maybe. Or maybe there's something to be said for how we are developing and deploying our kid quarterbacks.

Rookie Cowboys quarterbacks could be rising fast and true in large part because of the secret sauce cooked up by Scott Linehan.

Consider Linehan's history with quarterbacks:
2002-2004, Vikings......Daunte Culpepper had big time success under Linehan and the Vikings were 2nd in total yards. Culpepper enjoyed his best years w/Linehan formulating the recipes.

A few years later with St. Louis, Linehan was tested by needing to build an offense around Marc Bulgar. He succeeded. Rams offense ranked sixth in total yards, fourth in passing, and 10th in points per game.

Then with Linehan in Detroit working for the Lions... Matt Stafford threw for 5,038, 4,967, and 4,650 yards respectively. He also amassed 90 passing touchdowns and won NFL Comeback Player of the Year in 2011.

Linehan seems on a career trajectory similar to Wade Phillips:
-Failed in short stint as head coach
-Mild-mannered, not perhaps tough enough for head coach
-Brilliantly successful on one side of the ball.

The guy might be something of a quarterback-whisperer


*Credit to Michael Sisemore at Blogging the Boys for some of the history and numbers.

Here is the basics of it, and we have talked about this over the years many times. You HAVE TO TRY!!! Jerry was always too worried about hurting Aikmans feelings or Romo's feewings. Every year if you see a guy you think has talent at the most important position in football, then take him in the draft. Regardless of who you have starting. Jerry is sooo into copying New England, well that is one of the things they do he should have been doing all along. You can develop these guys, trade them, ect....ect... The last two years we have been looking and its paid off. Even if its luck or not, you should always keep drafting or signing UDFA's that you like at the QB position. And you should always be evaluating. Even if we have Dak and Rush.

 

[John813]

The Cowboys have drafted one Quarterback since taking McGee in 2009. Prescott.
So, no, we haven't drafted the hell out of Quarterbacks.

We've always brought in UDFA QB's. Vaughan(2014-first year with SL), Showers, Moore, Tanney to name a few.
This Rush guy shows some more potential than the others guys we've brought in as UDFA in the past 4-5 years.

Rush, has had good games versus 3rd stringers. Not to say he sucks, but pump the brakes on him.

 

[Macnalty]

The Cowboys have drafted one Quarterback since taking McGee in 2009. Prescott.
So, no, we haven't drafted the hell out of Quarterbacks.

We've always brought in UDFA QB's. Vaughan(2014-first year with SL), Showers, Moore, Tanney to name a few.
This Rush guy shows some more potential than the others guys we've brought in as UDFA in the past 4-5 years.

Rush, has had good games versus 3rd stringers. Not to say he sucks, but pump the brakes on him.

I agree he has played well in the preseason, different pair of pants get put on during the regular season. I am not in his corner enough to think he is number 2 if Dak goes down. He is on the road to backup just needs a little more seasoning. If he pans out another feather in the front offices cap and keep up the great results.

 

[Longboysfan]

Are we drafting the hell out of quarterbacks the past two years? Maybe. Or maybe there's something to be said for how we are developing and deploying our kid quarterbacks.

Rookie Cowboys quarterbacks could be rising fast and true in large part because of the secret sauce cooked up by Scott Linehan.

Consider Linehan's history with quarterbacks:
2002-2004, Vikings......Daunte Culpepper had big time success under Linehan and the Vikings were 2nd in total yards. Culpepper enjoyed his best years w/Linehan formulating the recipes.

A few years later with St. Louis, Linehan was tested by needing to build an offense around Marc Bulgar. He succeeded. Rams offense ranked sixth in total yards, fourth in passing, and 10th in points per game.

Then with Linehan in Detroit working for the Lions... Matt Stafford threw for 5,038, 4,967, and 4,650 yards respectively. He also amassed 90 passing touchdowns and won NFL Comeback Player of the Year in 2011.

Linehan seems on a career trajectory similar to Wade Phillips:
-Failed in short stint as head coach
-Mild-mannered, not perhaps tough enough for head coach
-Brilliantly successful on one side of the ball.

The guy might be something of a quarterback-whisperer


*Credit to Michael Sisemore at Blogging the Boys for some of the history and numbers.

And I'm sure Jerry is paying him better than all other Offensive assistant coaches in the league.

This is where the team marketing comes in.
The piggy bank to pay more to almost any staff member is always full.
Reminder - only players salaries are capped.
You can pay your coaches anything you want.

 

[John813]

I agree he has played well in the preseason, different pair of pants get put on during the regular season. I am not in his corner enough to think he is number 2 if Dak goes down. He is on the road to backup just needs a little more seasoning. If he pans out another feather in the front offices cap and keep up the great results.

I think the argument is that some will say Dak had a good preseason too, and he did impress, but to nitpick it was against higher competition. 1st/2nd teamers. We tried to keep Romo from getting injured by limiting his play time, but of course he gets injured versus Seattle.

Hopefully, Linehan is a QB whisperer of some sort, and he was a large reason we drafted Dak after missing on Lynch and Cook.
But, the only guy here Scott can get credit for, fair or not, is Prescott. Hopefully, we won't have to see Rush out there in action in the regular season to test out how good SL is.

 

[Macnalty]

I think the argument is that some will say Dak had a good preseason too, and he did impress, but to nitpick it was against higher competition. 1st/2nd teamers. We tried to keep Romo from getting injured by limiting his play time, but of course he gets injured versus Seattle.

Hopefully, Linehan is a QB whisperer of some sort, and he was a large reason we drafted Dak after missing on Lynch and Cook.
But, the only guy here Scott can get credit for, fair or not, is Prescott. Hopefully, we won't have to see Rush out there in action in the regular season to test out how good SL is.

Hard to gloss over how much cowboys were in love with Paxton Lynch and had to settle. It worked out but that was not the plan.

 

[DoctorChicken]

Man, did Culpepper flame out after a strong start. Now I'm paranoid. Thanks, bro.

Culpepper suffered a serious knee injury though.

 

[ConceptCoop]

LOL.

Dak is better. And hopefully we'll have continuity with Linehan sticking around.

Culpepper was a top 3 or 4 QB in the league at one point, prior to the injuries.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Culpepper suffered a serious knee injury though.

Truu

 

[Idgit]

It turns out if you surround a guy with weapons and protect him and have 3-4 former NFL QBs on staff it's a pretty good environment for developing QBs.

We had a couple of crazy threads last season debating whether or not DAL was currently a good place for developing QBs. Those look doubly-dumb right now.

Whatever we're doing, however they want the QB room to look, I think they get the benefit of the doubt for knowing what they're doing. If Rush develops into a player next offseason, I don't see how anybody could dispute it.

 

[sbark]

One is lucky, 2 in a row is a pattern..........start adding on #3,4 and a 5th---no your talking

Hard to gloss over how much cowboys were in love with Paxton Lynch and had to settle. It worked out but that was not the plan.

........add Conner Cook to that list......

dont see much out of either of them long term. So to say Linehan/Garrett/McClay had spotted talent becomes a stretch

If Dallas had been able to nail down either of those trades...the RUE level here would be unreal for 10 years.

 

[T-RO]

Here is the basics of it, and we have talked about this over the years many times. You HAVE TO TRY!!! Jerry was always too worried about hurting Aikmans feelings or Romo's feewings. Every year if you see a guy you think has talent at the most important position in football, then take him in the draft. Regardless of who you have starting. Jerry is sooo into copying New England, well that is one of the things they do he should have been doing all along. You can develop these guys, trade them, ect....ect... The last two years we have been looking and its paid off. Even if its luck or not, you should always keep drafting or signing UDFA's that you like at the QB position. And you should always be evaluating. Even if we have Dak and Rush.

Should we carry 3QB every year to accommodate those efforts?

 

[T-RO]

The Cowboys have drafted one Quarterback since taking McGee in 2009. Prescott.
So, no, we haven't drafted the hell out of Quarterbacks.

We've always brought in UDFA QB's. Vaughan(2014-first year with SL), Showers, Moore, Tanney to name a few.
This Rush guy shows some more potential than the others guys we've brought in as UDFA in the past 4-5 years.

Rush, has had good games versus 3rd stringers. Not to say he sucks, but pump the brakes on him.

"Acquire the hell out of Quarterbacks." Is that better?

For a fourth round pick and a UDFA we could be set at quarterback for a decade. That's crazy good talent evaluation and development. And it speaks to the wizard we have at OC.

You can pump the brakes on Rush. I understand.

I won't.

 

[Macnalty]

One is lucky, 2 in a row is a pattern..........start adding on #3,4 and a 5th---no your talking

........add Conner Cook to that list......

dont see much out of either of them long term. So to say Linehan/Garrett/McClay had spotted talent becomes a stretch

If Dallas had been able to nail down either of those trades...the RUE level here would be unreal for 10 years.

The cowboys with some early picks have been saved from themselves starting with Zack Martin(vs Ryan Shazier who went the pick before) . Connor Cook (Oakland surrendered picks No. 114 and 154 to leapfrog us and the Chiefs and get to the second pick of the fourth round in order to select Cook).I have given a little more lead way as he was never going to be a top tier choice IMO. You are correct that would of been a stinker simply because of the position he plays. We do better than anyone in the early rounds on our 2nd and 3rd choices.

 

[T-RO]

Hard to gloss over how much cowboys were in love with Paxton Lynch and had to settle. It worked out but that was not the plan.

We know Jerry was in love w/the guy. And who knows...perhaps under Linehan Lynch would look a lot better right now.

Certain coaches have a knack. Wherever Phillips has gone as DC great players start popping up. Don't be surprised when the Rams defense suddenly has two or three more top defenders.