Cowboys Stats - Rushing does help the Cowboys Win

[FuzzyLumpkins]

AdamJT13 disagrees with you.

No, he doesn't. Rushing helps you pass but if you don't pass well your are still unlikely to win.

 

[Elusive6thRing]

I saw an interesting stat last night in the Giants game the Giants were the only team in NFL history through 9 games to have a winning record and only average 68 rushing yards per game, I believe that's what it said at least correct me if I'm wrong. Shows rushing is crucial to winning.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I just showed you 100% correlation. It does not get better than that.

Correlation does not imply causation.

 

[T-RO]

In the 9 Cowboys games in 2016, the winner had more rushing yards in all 9 games.

In the 9 Cowboys games in 2016, the winner had more passing yards in 3 of 9 games.

Rushing Yards Differential Correlation to Wins: 100%

Passing Yards Differential Correlation to Wins: 33.3%

In 2014:
Rushing Yards Differential Correlation to Wins: 87.5%

Passing Yards Differential Correlation to Wins: 50%

A statistician would just chuckle at this.
You are violating what is almost rule #1 of statistics: you aren't employing a sufficient sample size.

And a debater would chuckle at this some more...
Not only did you use a small sample size but you failed to understand the frame of the discussion: it's efficiency not total yards.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Against Pittsburgh, I noticed the Cowboys lost both the turnover battle and the passer rating differential battle, which are two of the greatest predictors of wins and losses in the NFL.

On the Sunday night football broadcast, Rodney Harrison hypothesized the Cowboys were having success because modern teams are designed primarily to stop the pass.

What is interesting is around draft time, DL that are only run stoppers fall in the draft. It isn't valued as much anymore, and this agrees with Harrison's theory.

 

[T-RO]

Adam uses ANYPA- adjusted net pass yards per attempt

But even then the correlation is stiil only 80%....that means 3-4 teams every week that pass more efficiently still lose because of STs, turnover and ..........the rushing game

Yards and points don't care or know how they are gained......rushing, passing, penalty = no difference

"Only 80%" LMAO

 

[Sydla]

I just showed you 100% correlation. It does not get better than that.

Actually it can get better.

Use metrics that make more sense and have a more predictive outcome on a game as opposed to just raw yardage gained.

 

[T-RO]

On the Sunday night football broadcast, Rodney Harrison hypothesized the Cowboys were having success because modern teams are designed primarily to stop the pass.

The Cowboys are having enormous success because we are watching a powerful demonstration of the impact an elite blocking unit can have on the passing game.

That 85-yard screen pass was just one example.

Dallas basically says to defenses: if you don't blitz Dak can tie his shoes back there in the pocket. And if you do blitz teams we'll still give him 3 or 4 seconds...while your secondary will be exposed.

It's no coincidence that in 2014 Romo was #1 in QB rating and now Dak is at 106.2. Both quarterbacks have enjoyed supreme advantages towards air supremacy.

In addition Zeke is a nuclear threat in the passing game...both in blocking and as a receiver. He's averaging 15 yards per.

 

[Doomsday101]

The Cowboys are having enormous success because we are watching a powerful demonstration of the impact an elite blocking unit can have on the passing game.

That 85-yard screen pass was just one example.

Dallas basically says to defenses: if you don't blitz Dak can tie his shoes back there in the pocket. And if you do blitz teams we'll still give him 3 or 4 seconds...while your secondary will be exposed.

It's no coincidence that in 2014 Romo was #1 in QB rating and now Dak is at 106.2. Both quarterbacks have enjoyed supreme advantages towards air supremacy.

In addition Zeke is a nuclear threat in the passing game...both in blocking and as a receiver. He's averaging 15 yards per.

and his over 1,000 rushing. I really do not get this. Passing game is important but so is the running game especially when you run the ball like the Cowboys. It is not hard to see how much the run game means to the Dallas Cowboys. The notion it is all about the passing game is dead wrong.

 

[T-RO]

I saw an interesting stat last night in the Giants game the Giants were the only team in NFL history through 9 games to have a winning record and only average 68 rushing yards per game, I believe that's what it said at least correct me if I'm wrong. Shows rushing is crucial to winning.

I'd like to discuss this but first we need some accurate data. There isn't one single team in the NFL averaging less than 69 yards per game right now. Not one.

No team averaged so few yards in 2015....nor in 2014, nor in 2013, 2012, 2011...

There simply aren't any teams in that category.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

In the 9 Cowboys games in 2016, the winner had more rushing yards in all 9 games.

In the 9 Cowboys games in 2016, the winner had more passing yards in 3 of 9 games.

Rushing Yards Differential Correlation to Wins: 100%

Passing Yards Differential Correlation to Wins: 33.3%

In 2014:
Rushing Yards Differential Correlation to Wins: 87.5%

Passing Yards Differential Correlation to Wins: 50%

Oh gawd.

Correlation does not equal causation.

And if it did it would be based on efficiency not rate statistics.

When did your little brother take over your account?

I miss the old @xwalker the analytical @xwalker not this new @xwalker this hating on Dez @xwalker...this I don't know how to look at stats @xwalker

 

[T-RO]

If you take the worst rushing teams in the league in 2016...what would you expect to see with win-loss?

Rush Rank / Team / Record
27 Detroit Lions 5-4
28 Baltimore Ravens, 5-4
29 Los Angeles Rams, 4-5
30 Seattle Seahawks, 6-2-1
31 New York Giants, 6-3
32 Minnesota Vikings, 5-4

Now I concede that there are some good defenses here. Still interesting...

*I'm using yards per game here

 

[khiladi]

He has the 2nd highest play action pass efficiency in the league - how is that factored in to the inherent collinearity of the passing efficiency stat?

Sucks that we were amongst last in the league when Garrett was OC.. I say it all the time and with Romo's PC today, makes me bite my teeth..

 

[khiladi]

Passing efficiency is partly built off 'threat' of run.

 

[windjc]

the giants beefed up to stop us and our running game,they know they cant win without beating us.

It isnt going to matter. We are going to run right over them in a few weeks.

 

[AbeBeta]

In the 9 Cowboys games in 2016, the winner had more rushing yards in all 9 games.

In the 9 Cowboys games in 2016, the winner had more passing yards in 3 of 9 games.

Rushing Yards Differential Correlation to Wins: 100%

Passing Yards Differential Correlation to Wins: 33.3%

In 2014:
Rushing Yards Differential Correlation to Wins: 87.5%

Passing Yards Differential Correlation to Wins: 50%

Wow. A correlation based on nine data points. Meaningful.

 

[Nightman]

Wow. A correlation based on nine data points. Meaningful.

I think everyone missed X's sarcasm meter on this one by a mile

 

[jobberone]

Against Pittsburgh, I noticed the Cowboys lost both the turnover battle and the passer rating differential battle, which are two of the greatest predictors of wins and losses in the NFL.

On the Sunday night football broadcast, Rodney Harrison hypothesized the Cowboys were having success because modern teams are designed primarily to stop the pass.

What is the Sc%, 3rd down CR, RZ%, and YPC? What is opponent SC%?

 

[ScipioCowboy]

What is the Sc%, 3rd down CR, RZ%, and YPC? What is opponent SC%?

I don't know, bruh. I'll be sure to ask Rodney when he offers his opinion again. I'll have to warn him about all the butt hurt, though.

 

[AdamJT13]

Against Pittsburgh, I noticed the Cowboys lost both the turnover battle and the passer rating differential battle, which are two of the greatest predictors of wins and losses in the NFL.

Even better "predictors" are yards per pass attempt, net yards per pass play and adjusted net yards per pass play. We "won" all of those and narrowly lost in passer rating. (Note that if Roethlisberger had tried a Hail Mary into the end zone on the final play instead of throwing short, we would have also won in passer rating -- unless it was caught for a touchdown, in which case we would have lost in passer rating and lost the game. So the difference was extremely small.)

On the Sunday night football broadcast, Rodney Harrison hypothesized the Cowboys were having success because modern teams are designed primarily to stop the pass.

And yet, the team with the higher ANYPA is 9-0 in our games (and 46-1 in out past 47 games). Whether we win or lose still almost always (or, as it seems, always) depends on whether we pass more efficiently than our opponent -- which we have done for eight consecutive games.