Game Day ***Cowboys vs Panthers post game thread***

[Tusan_Homichi]

I have no problem with Cam. If he were on my team, I'd love all of it. It sucks being on the receiving end of it, but I'm sure quite a few teams felt like that playing us in the 90s with Irvin and his first down signals, Emmitt ripping his helmet off after TDs, etc. We loved it as fans of the Cowboys though.

 

[bkeavs]

In 5 full seasons, Garrett will have exactly 1 winning year.

Is just 1 winning season out of 5 seasons really the mark of a good head coach? Shouldn't a good head coach be able to get more out of his team than that?

And this is not a taking a shot at Garrett mods, this is just asking a legitimate question regarding a coach's record. At what point is the head coach responsible for the performance, or lack off, for the team he is in charge of? And is 1 winning season out of 5 really an indicator that the program is headed in the right direction? Cant an argument be made that almost any head coach could luck into 1 winning season out of 5? Even the door mat teams of the league usually luck into a winning season every 5 years or so, it is really nothing special at all.

Even if Garrett is not the reason for our losing, at what point does it become clear that he is not the reason for wins either. Garrett does not bring anything to the table that is unique or gives his team an edge. So I think it is a legitimate question to ask at what point is the head coach responsible for his team's continued lack of success, outside of one single good year.

Best post I have read here ever with exception to risen star and Alexander's witty jabs

 

[cml750]

You don't cure the disease by treating the symptom.

You have to treat the symptoms when there is no cure for the disease except death and as much as I dislike Jerry I would never wish that on him. We all get your point that Jerry is the main problem. Nobody can argue that fact but that still doesn't make Garrett a good coach. The main qualification for coaching here is if Jerry is comfortable with the coach, not how good of a coach they are. It would be better to have a good coach who does not make Jerry uncomfortable if such an animal exist. Jerry isn't going anywhere anytime soon so it makes zero sense to complain about him so we complain about the one bad thing that can change and that is poor coaching.

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

You have to treat the symptoms when there is no cure for the disease except death and as much as I dislike Jerry I would never wish that on him. We all get your point that Jerry is the main problem. Nobody can argue that fact but that still doesn't make Garrett a good coach. The main qualification for coaching here is if Jerry is comfortable with the coach, not how good of a coach they are. It would be better to have a good coach who does not make Jerry uncomfortable if such an animal exist. Jerry isn't going anywhere anytime soon so it makes zero sense to complain about him so we complain about the one bad thing that can change and that is poor coaching.

Jerry needs a coach who makes him uncomfortable. Jerry referred to having to "walk on eggshells" around Parcells, but Parcells had a job here as long as he wanted to stay. He just didn't have the stomach for it anymore. It's too bad. I wonder what might have happened with that 2007 team if Parcells had stuck around.

 

[daveferr33]

You don't cure the disease by treating the symptom.

I think the disease has progressed to the point where all we can do now is make the patient comfortable.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

You know, I was just thinking -- Matt Cassel and the Cowboys should be able to beat the Commanders with Kirk Cousins.

Don't go there. lol

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I have no problem with Cam. If he were on my team, I'd love all of it. It sucks being on the receiving end of it, but I'm sure quite a few teams felt like that playing us in the 90s with Irvin and his first down signals, Emmitt ripping his helmet off after TDs, etc. We loved it as fans of the Cowboys though.

and then the NFL stopped it.

 

[cml750]

Jerry needs a coach who makes him uncomfortable. Jerry referred to having to "walk on eggshells" around Parcells, but Parcells had a job here as long as he wanted to stay. He just didn't have the stomach for it anymore. It's too bad. I wonder what might have happened with that 2007 team if Parcells had stuck around.

I too think it would be better to hire that type of coach but I just don't see Jerry doing it. He already got his stadium. I do not think we will ever see Jerry bring in a coach that makes him uncomfortable but that does not mean can't stumble onto a good coach who he is comfortable with. There may not be any good coaches who would come here in those conditions but you never know.

 

[superonyx]

I have no problem with Cam. If he were on my team, I'd love all of it. It sucks being on the receiving end of it, but I'm sure quite a few teams felt like that playing us in the 90s with Irvin and his first down signals, Emmitt ripping his helmet off after TDs, etc. We loved it as fans of the Cowboys though.

I don't like when any player scores and then looks for the camera so he can move all of his teammates out of the way while he showboats. You have 10 guys who all contributed to them scoring as much as Cam did and this guy tries to make himself the show. It's obnoxious.

I don't even like when Dez X's after a score.
Team celebrations are ok. Not team choreographed dances not so much.

 

[cowboyblue22]

Its more about the show now than the game.When you do like dez and before the game trash talk then you are going to get there best shot. if you lose you take what they dish out.

 

[tyke1doe]

You have to treat the symptoms when there is no cure for the disease except death and as much as I dislike Jerry I would never wish that on him. We all get your point that Jerry is the main problem. Nobody can argue that fact but that still doesn't make Garrett a good coach. The main qualification for coaching here is if Jerry is comfortable with the coach, not how good of a coach they are. It would be better to have a good coach who does not make Jerry uncomfortable if such an animal exist. Jerry isn't going anywhere anytime soon so it makes zero sense to complain about him so we complain about the one bad thing that can change and that is poor coaching.

Very good post.

 

[tyke1doe]

I don't like when any player scores and then looks for the camera so he can move all of his teammates out of the way while he showboats. You have 10 guys who all contributed to them scoring as much as Cam did and this guy tries to make himself the show. It's obnoxious.

I don't even like when Dez X's after a score.
Team celebrations are ok. Not team choreographed dances not so much.

I don't have any problems with them, though I wouldn't do them. But didn't the NFL have a rule against premeditated celebrations a while back?
That rule seem to disappear quite quietly.
Then again, I'm not surprised because end zone celebrations are entertaining to many, and the NFL is all about entertainment.

 

[phildominator]

I don't have any problems with them, though I wouldn't do them. But didn't the NFL have a rule against premeditated celebrations a while back?
That rule seem to disappear quite quietly.
Then again, I'm not surprised because end zone celebrations are entertaining to many, and the NFL is all about entertainment.

The league will probably come up with some stupid rule like TD celebrations can only be 2.5 seconds long and can only incorporate moves from a single dance genre. No transitioning into a different style.

 

[silver]

I will see your Goff and raise you a Hogan!

I see your Hogan and raise you a Lynch!

 

[jobberone]

How so? Franchise QB, Great TE, Dez decent running game. average O line which seems to be getting average again under his watch.

Come on, Dave. We've been slowly climbing out of a huge talent hole since he took over. And this happened prior to him. Put that all on Jerry. Yes, we've had a few elite players for some time but an inadequate supporting staff. That excuse is starting to thin although we still don't have the secondary to be dominant.

If we have a good draft and retain the right players then we should have the talent of a contender IMO. There will be no excuses unless we are decimated by injury. IMO, next year is a judgmental one for the staff, FO and some players.

 

[dallasdave]

Fire Garrett

Best idea all season !!!!!!!!

 

[kristie]

Great video girl, I agree with everything you said............they have betrayed Romo by giving him crap coaches and crap teammates that cant even win one dam game without him so he has to rush back (obviously too early) and reinjures himself.

thank you. it just broke my heart seeing him hurt again.

 

[T-RO]

Their OL isn't good. It's that read option effect. Kind of like when everyone thought the WSH OL was the ish in 2012.

And I just disagree. I think if the Cowboys had've stuck with their game plan instead of getting pass happy the game would've been fairly close.

Stick w/the run!?! We wouldn't have scored a single point. We were averaging .01 yard per carry!

 

[Beast_from_East]

Stick w/the run!?! We wouldn't have scored a single point. We were averaging .01 yard per carry!

it wasn't quite that bad, our RBs had 22 yards on 12 carries............but I get your point. Our "best offensive line in the NFL" was totally dominated.

 

[DandyDon52]

it wasn't quite that bad, our RBs had 22 yards on 12 carries............but I get your point. Our "best offensive line in the NFL" was totally dominated.

turbin had 1/2 of those on 2 carries, he had 2 in a row for a first down and jg took his butt out, and he never came back !!!
LOL do good and they pull them out, cant have that !
12 runs is a joke, and how many on 1st down?
If they know when your running they can shut it down.

Also they were out coached, the carolina defense knew what we were doing better than our players knew ! lol
Several plays they knew exactly what we were going to do and what play it was.
Thats how they got the ints, show one defense, switch to another that covers the play dallas is running.