Cowboys working on Spencer not Romo

[ufcrules1]

Heck between Romo and Ware we could get 4 or 5+ top 10 draft picks.

 

[boysfanindc]

It is not so easy to find a franchise QB or even a upper echelon QB, how quickly people forget about 5 years of this:

Drew Bledsoe, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Henson, Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Anthony Wright, Ryan Leaf, Clint Stoerner

Ask the skins how long it took them.

 

[SDCowboy]

Heck between Romo and Ware we could get 4 or 5+ top 10 draft picks.

I'm all for it if we actually rebuild (meaning at least Romo and Ware). I don't support it if it's just trading Romo for probably a lot less than he's worth.

 

[TheSport78]

It is not so easy to find a franchise QB or even a upper echelon QB, how quickly people forget about 5 years of this:

Drew Bledsoe, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Henson, Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Anthony Wright, Ryan Leaf, Clint Stoerner

Ask the skins how long it took them.

That shouldn't be a reason to not look for one.

With that logic, the Seahawks would be stuck with Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson, a FRANCHISE QB, would be on another team's roster.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

It's better than overpaying yet another player for years to come thus sealing our fate in mediocrity. Romo showed against the Commanders that he doesn't have what it takes to lead.

I would like to start building this team up from the inside out. Much like the 49'ers have done. So what, we have a bad year or 2 in the rebuilding phase, it's better than kidding ourselves thinking we are a player or 2 away from going all the way.

The reason we have been stuck in mediocrity is Jerry holding on to players for way too long.

It is amazing to me that people forgot what we went through After Aikman.

It also amazes that we have seen years of not draft top Olinemen and all of sudden think that would change by getting a couple of other picks.

It just amazes me that it is just so simple to change things to a positive note with the very same people in charge of this team that got us to this state to begin with.

Romo is not the problem on this team right now.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

That shouldn't be a reason to not look for one.

With that logic, the Seahawks would be stuck with Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson, a FRANCHISE QB, would be on another team's roster.

Russell Wilson was not a top of the first round drafted QB either.

BIG difference.

There is nothing wrong with drafting another QB and hoping he pans out...but you should not do it without anything in the background.

For every Russell Wilson you cite...I can cite a Quincy Carter.

 

[DFWJC]

I do find it interesting that they're willing to negotiate with spencer right now and not making tony top priority.....

Getting Spencer done to get us under the cap gives them more leverage than signing Romo first. Plus, they franchised Spencer.

There's the other obvious thing in that when you have possible comparables to help fram a contract value, you should use it.

Ryan, Stafford, Rodgers, Romo, and maybe some others are all in the same boat. Rodgers is going to set the market, but the agents want to see how things fall. To make it more weird, Tom Condon represents several of these guys.

Flacco had the Ravens by the short hairs and got what most NFL GMs probably feel is way more than he is really worth. But agents don't see it that way...so there is a delay. ESPN was saying it could be many months for these QBs or right away--once one goes, the dominos will fall.

 

[skinsscalper]

Russell Wilson was not a top of the first round drafted QB either.

BIG difference.

There is nothing wrong with drafting another QB and hoping he pans out...but you should not do it without anything in the background.

For every Russell Wilson you cite...I can cite 10 Quincy Carters.

Fixed.

 

[xwalker]

we could, but any sigining bonus we just gave him on that contract will hit the cap immediately. so, not feasible.

They would have to get him to agree to a huge guaranteed 2nd year base salary in leui of a signing bonus.

 

[TheSport78]

Russell Wilson was not a top of the first round drafted QB either.

BIG difference.

There is nothing wrong with drafting another QB and hoping he pans out...but you should not do it without anything in the background.

For every Russell Wilson you cite...I can cite a Quincy Carter.

The Cowboys haven't drafted a QB in the first THREE ROUNDS since Carter in 2001. That's a serious problem and it's not hard to figure out why the Cowboys don't have a viable replacement once Romo's time is up.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Ill say this much, if Romo isn't extended and is allowed to test free agency next offseason the romo era is done in Dallas. Some team will pay him what we can't.

if a deal isn't reached and his replacement isn't found, he'll be franchised. I think JJ has more leverage here than people think. Romo could be franchsed 2 years meaning he'd be around 35 when he could test FA offers. That changes things a bit from a marketability perspective.

 

[AKATheRake]

Heck between Romo and Ware we could get 4 or 5+ top 10 draft picks.

I don't know about 4-5 top 10 picks but 1 or 2 with another first or couple of 2nds.

We'd probably be able to add that to what would end up us being in the top 10 of the draft after we trade them but I see us going back to middle of the pack, top 15 after that draft.

I wish Oakland and/or Arizona were both hard on us this season, ie Romo or Ware.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

It is not so easy to find a franchise QB or even a upper echelon QB, how quickly people forget about 5 years of this:

Drew Bledsoe, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Henson, Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Anthony Wright, Ryan Leaf, Clint Stoerner

Ask the skins how long it took them.

Honorable mention to the incredibly short lived Tony Banks era

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

The Cowboys haven't drafted a QB in the first THREE ROUNDS since Carter in 2001. That's a serious problem and it's not hard to figure out why the Cowboys don't have a viable replacement once Romo's time is up.

And as I said before in another post...You think getting extra picks for romo is going to Equal us turning things around.

Remember...the same group in charge of getting us in this situation will still be there if we traded Romo.

Think about that.

 

[skinsscalper]

if a deal isn't reached and his replacement isn't found, he'll be franchised. I think JJ has more leverage here than people think. Romo could be franchsed 2 years meaning he'd be around 35 when he could test FA offers. That changes things a bit from a marketability perspective.

The cap hit to franchise Romo would make it impossible for the Cowboys to absorb. Don't kid yourself. Romo has ALL the leverage right now.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Honorable mention to the incredibly short lived Tony Banks era

:laugh2: Signed and released before he ever played a game.

Although on the bright side...Jerry and Quincy shared the same zodiac sign so we had that going for us.

 

[SDCowboy]

if a deal isn't reached and his replacement isn't found, he'll be franchised. I think JJ has more leverage here than people think. Romo could be franchsed 2 years meaning he'd be around 35 when he could test FA offers. That changes things a bit from a marketability perspective.

He will not be franchised. He would cost an absolute fortune on the cap. It's amazing how many people forget that a big chunk of his current deal is on the 3 phony years after this season. The team would get hit for that money plus another 18-20mil.

 

[boysfanindc]

That shouldn't be a reason to not look for one.

With that logic, the Seahawks would be stuck with Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson, a FRANCHISE QB, would be on another team's roster.

It's not a reason you should not look for one, if you have people running the organization that have a plan on what they would do if they blew it up (trade romo, ware etc).

I see no indication of such ability, even Romo was a semi fluke, those things don't pan out so often.

It is a simple probability statement for me, do we have a better chance of finding the pieces to put around Romo/Ware in the next 4 or 5 years.

Or do we have faith in the people running the show to blow it up and then know what to do and succeed at doing it by replacing your most skilled positions.

I am not sure I have much hope in either approach, based on who is running the show, but if I had to pick one, I would pick holding onto the few stars we have and building around them.

Basic math for me, the less they have to do at important positions, the less the will screw it up.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

It's not a reason you should not look for one, if you have people running the organization that have a plan on what they would do if they blew it up (trade romo, ware etc).

I see no indication of such ability, even Romo was a semi fluke, those things don't pan out so often.

It is a simple probability statement for me, do we have a better chance of finding the pieces to put around Romo/Ware in the next 4 or 5 years.

Or do we have faith in the people running the show to blow it up and then know what to do and succeed at doing it by replacing your most skilled positions.

I am not sure I have much hope in either approach, based on who is running the show, but if I had to pick one, I would pick holding onto the few stars we have and building around them.

Basic math for me, the less they have to do at important positions, the less the will screw it up.

Ding Ding Ding...We have a Winner.

 

[DFWJC]

The Cowboys haven't drafted a QB in the first THREE ROUNDS since Carter in 2001. That's a serious problem and it's not hard to figure out why the Cowboys don't have a viable replacement once Romo's time is up.

I think the genreral feeling around the league that once you have a sure-fire long-term starter, you may continue to draft a QB every few years, but it's usually not in the 1st 3 rounds.

Once teams had their Brees, Ryan, Stafford, Rivers, Romo, E Manning, P Manning etc...you did not see those teams using a 3rd or higher at QB.

The lone exceptions could be NE and GB.