Cowboys working on Spencer not Romo

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skinsscalper;5020826 said:
The cap hit to franchise Romo would make it impossible for the Cowboys to absorb. Don't kid yourself. Romo has ALL the leverage right now.

the 2012 franchise tag amount for a QB is $14.43M. If he were to get an extension, I would it would probably be in the $16M/yr range. I understand it would be backloaded but still, he cost a lot either way.

He still has unfinished work here to do here and the media finally started showing him some love last year .......I don't think he would want to leave.
 

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Spencers too go to let go but it is going fo cost us a lot of money. Which sucks cause hes already 29. But ive noticed him more then ware the last 3 seasons. I like spencer a lot and this will probably be wares last year so I want to keep spencer at least 3 more years. keeping romo is a must unless your targeting 3 or 4 win seasons.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;5020825 said:
And as I said before in another post...You think getting extra picks for romo is going to Equal us turning things around.

Remember...the same group in charge of getting us in this situation will still be there if we traded Romo.

Think about that.

I didn't say anything about acquiring extra picks for Romo. I was speaking in terms of grooming Romo's replacement. Drafting one quarterback since Romo became the starter in 2006 (McGee in the 4th round) isn't smart management IMO.

boysfanindc;5020832 said:
It's not a reason you should not look for one, if you have people running the organization that have a plan on what they would do if they blew it up (trade romo, ware etc).

I see no indication of such ability, even Romo was a semi fluke, those things don't pan out so often.

It is a simple probability statement for me, do we have a better chance of finding the pieces to put around Romo/Ware in the next 4 or 5 years.

Or do we have faith in the people running the show to blow it up and then know what to do and succeed at doing it by replacing your most skilled positions.

I am not sure I have much hope in either approach, based on who is running the show, but if I had to pick one, I would pick holding onto the few stars we have and building around them.

Basic math for me, the less they have to do at important positions, the less the will screw it up.

We need a QB whether or not Romo is on the roster. He's about to become 33 years old.

DFWJC;5020838 said:
I think the genreral feeling around the league that once you have a sure-fire long-term starter, you may continue to draft a QB every few years, but it's usually not in the 1st 3 rounds.

Once teams had their Brees, Ryan, Stafford, Rivers, Romo, E Manning, P Manning etc...you did not see those teams using a 3rd or higher at QB.

The lone exceptions could be NE and GB.

NE and GB have been two of the more successful franchises in recent memory, no? If I had a choice, I'd draft a QB every year.
 

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sunbum;5020841 said:
the 2012 franchise tag amount for a QB is $14.43M. If he were to get an extension, I would it would probably be in the $16M/yr range. I understand it would be backloaded but still, he cost a lot either way.

He still has unfinished work here to do here and the media finally started showing him some love last year .......I don't think he would want to leave.
Again, you're not factoring in all the money in the 3 tacked on years that the team would have to absorb.
 

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sunbum;5020841 said:
the 2012 franchise tag amount for a QB is $14.43M. If he were to get an extension, I would it would probably be in the $16M/yr range. I understand it would be backloaded but still, he cost a lot either way.

He still has unfinished work here to do here and the media finally started showing him some love last year .......I don't think he would want to leave.

There is an additional 7M in money that was prorated into future voidable years in his contract. This money would accelerate into the 2014 cap making his total cap hit 14.43M + 7M = 21.43M based on this years QB Franchise Tag. Any increase in the QB Tag number for 2014 would add directly to the 21.43M number.
 

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Not looking for QBs with a franchise QB is the exact reason we had to go through the Quincy Hutch Henson Banks Wright Stoerner Leaf mess. And lo and behold, we got our starter with Romo and we've gone and done it again. We have an aging QB who is decreasingly mobile and increasingly injured with diminishing results about to get overpaid and extended because we have no backup plan.
 

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TheSport78;5020847 said:
I didn't say anything about acquiring extra picks for Romo. I was speaking in terms of grooming Romo's replacement. Drafting one quarterback since Romo became the starter in 2006 (McGee in the 4th round) isn't smart management IMO.



We need a QB whether or not Romo is on the roster. He's about to become 33 years old.



NE and GB have been two of the more successful franchises in recent memory, no? If I had a choice, I'd draft a QB every year.

I don't disagree we should be looking for a QB in mid/late rounds of the draft, you have to put a line in to catch a fish.

I guess I was more speaking about the theme of threads saying trade Ware, trade Romo, trade Witten etc.

And the organizations ability to do anything with what they got back.
 

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Anyone have a list of teams that may be interested in paying for Romo. I'm thinking Vikings, Dolphins, Cards, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Jets.

The only team that would appear to be an immediate contender would be the Vikings.
 
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xwalker;5020851 said:
There is an additional 7M in money that was prorated into future voidable years in his contract. This money would accelerate into the 2014 cap making his total cap hit 14.43M + 7M = 21.43M based on this years QB Franchise Tag. Any increase in the QB Tag number for 2014 would add directly to the 21.43M number.

good point, I overlooked that. Yes, Romo has leverage :laugh2: but don't think he's going anywhere. As I said, he still has unfinished business here in Dallas!
 

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Kruger is getting a reported 8-9 mill a year from Cleveland -- I expect Spencer is going to take 9-10 mill a year now.

Those numbers aren't a huge surprise to me though.
 

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I guarantee they don't let Romo walk. They would find the room to franchise him if they are forced to.
 

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speedkilz88;5020859 said:
I guarantee they don't let Romo walk. They would find the room to franchise him if they are forced to.
I don't think they'd find the room for a $21-25mil hit. That would be devastating.
 

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Gaede;5020852 said:
Not looking for QBs with a franchise QB is the exact reason we had to go through the Quincy Hutch Henson Banks Wright Stoerner Leaf mess. And lo and behold, we got our starter with Romo and we've gone and done it again. We have an aging QB who is decreasingly mobile and increasingly injured with diminishing results about to get overpaid and extended because we have no backup plan.

:hammer:
 

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I would let him play out the year or trade him, if there really is a team that is interested. The odds are definitely not in Romo's favor if decides not to sign an extension.

With our current line and an aging Romo it could really turn into a situation where Romo would stand to lose alot of money if he gets injured or doesn't play well this year.

I have read the articles that say Romo is worth between 16-18 mil. I think he is worth that if he has an outstanding year in 2013. If not there aren't alot of teams out their that are gonna risk giving him the money he could make by signing now.

It worked out well for Flacco but this team isn't as talented as the Ravens were.
 

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Common Sense;5020722 said:
Cue the "cap problems don't exist" crowd.

There's a difference between their existence and their ability to prevent Dallas from signing free agents.

Dallas has a cap problem until it moves money around when it wants to sign someone.

Dallas will have a cap problem again next year until it moves some more money around to sign who it wants.

Please read my sig for further study, or read anything else Stephen Jones has to say on the matter.
 

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gimmesix;5020930 said:
There's a difference between their existence and their ability to prevent Dallas from signing free agents.

Dallas has a cap problem until it moves money around when it wants to sign someone.

Dallas will have a cap problem again next year until it moves some more money around to sign who it wants.

Please read my sig for further study, or read anything else Stephen Jones has to say on the matter.


This is the big truth. The assumption is we would be signing all kinds of FAs if we just had the cap room. Maybe just maybe the reason we have only done just enough to get under the cap is because there is no one we want value wise at this time. If there is at some point this off season watch how fast we find "room" under the cap. I know it's popular to portray the front office as a blind squirrel trying to find a nut but that just isn't reality. They do have some idea what they are doing.
 
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