Crawford signs 5 year extension

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This is the bottom line. Everything else is just individual attacks and a waste of emotional currency.

That's the funny thing. We won't even know after Week 1.
How many were saying this team was in for a 1-15 season after Week 1 last year?

I make statements, but I won't fight that hard right now. I'll fight later.
 

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That's my problem with it. Maybe they know more than we do (an obvious statement), but unless his play picks up considerably, this is hugely over paying. He wasn't a top 15 player at his position in 2014.

If he wasn't then he was close. Outside of Fletcher Cox, he is the best interior lineman in the NFCE. Suh, Poe, McCoy, Dareus, Atkins, Williams, Watt, Campbell, Donald, and maybe Richardson are better. I put him below those guys but just below them.
 

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Look. Someone is pretending to be an expert on the English language.

Look someone that insults me rather than address my argument. You didn't consider the supporting clause. I don't pretend to be an expert and i learned about clauses in middle school. I guess that is too high a bar for you?
 

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MAYBE Sheldon Richardson is better than Crawford.

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Look someone that insults me rather than address my argument. You didn't consider the supporting clause. I don't pretend to be an expert and i learned about clauses in middle school. I guess that is too high a bar for you?

I'd like to know at least an inkling of what you do for a living.
You are a formidable poster.



I am quite curious.
 

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I'd like to know at least an inkling of what you do for a living.
You are a formidable poster.



I am quite curious.

"Clauses", Arguments", "Supporting (as in facts in the case)", "Bar". Yeah, my guess is he is a lawyer.
 

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"Clauses", Arguments", "Supporting (as in facts of the case)", "Bar". Yeah, my guess is he is a lawyer.

No dispute. I can see that, but I think he does something else.
He is definitely learned in these things and I love him as a poster here...

I don't think he's an attorney. I think he's IT.
Let him acknowledge or dispute.

How do I bring Fuzz's attention to this?

@FuzzyLumpkins ?

Does that work?
 

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6th highest payed 4-3 DT in the league.\


PlayerTeamTotal
ValueAvg./YearTotal
Guaranteed ▾Avg.
Guar./Year%
GuaranteedFree
Agency
Ndamukong SuhDolphins$114,375,000$19,062,500$59,955,000$9,992,50052.4%2021 UFA
Marcell DareusBills$95,100,000$15,850,000$42,000,000$7,000,00044.2%2022 UFA
Haloti NgataLions$48,524,000$12,131,000$27,100,000$6,775,00055.8%2016 UFA
Dan WilliamsRaiders$25,000,000$6,250,000$15,200,000$3,800,00060.8%2019 UFA
Geno AtkinsBengals$53,327,000$10,665,400$15,000,000$3,000,00028.1%2019 UFA
Gerald McCoyBuccaneers$95,200,000$13,600,000$14,757,308$2,108,18715.5%2022 UFA
Linval JosephVikings$31,250,000$6,250,000$12,500,000$2,500,00040.0%2019 UFA
Paul SoliaiFalcons$32,000,000$6,400,000$11,000,000$2,200,00034.4%2019 UFA
Aaron DonaldRams$10,136,500$2,534,125$10,136,500$2,534,125100.0%2018 OFA
Arthur JonesColts$33,000,000$6,600,000$10,000,000$2,000,00030.3%2019 UFA
Star LotuleleiPanthers$9,604,500$2,401,125$9,604,500$2,401,125100.0%2017 UFA
Michael BrockersRams$9,522,000$2,380,500$9,522,000$2,380,500100.0%2017 UFA
Tyson JacksonFalcons$25,000,000$5,000,000$9,500,000$1,900,00038.0%2019 UFA
Brandon MebaneSeahawks$25,000,000$5,000,000$9,000,000$1,800,00036.0%2016 UFA
Sharrif FloydVikings$8,076,200$2,019,050$6,569,900$1,642,47581.3%2017 UFA
 

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No dispute. I can see that, but I think he does something else.
He is definitely learned in these things and I love him as a poster here...

I don't think he's an attorney. I think he's IT.
Let him acknowledge or dispute.

Aaah, the mysteries and questions of mankind are incessant.
 

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6th highest payed 4-3 DT in the league.\


PlayerTeamTotal
ValueAvg./YearTotal
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Guar./Year%
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Ndamukong SuhDolphins$114,375,000$19,062,500$59,955,000$9,992,50052.4%2021 UFA
Marcell DareusBills$95,100,000$15,850,000$42,000,000$7,000,00044.2%2022 UFA
Haloti NgataLions$48,524,000$12,131,000$27,100,000$6,775,00055.8%2016 UFA
Dan WilliamsRaiders$25,000,000$6,250,000$15,200,000$3,800,00060.8%2019 UFA
Geno AtkinsBengals$53,327,000$10,665,400$15,000,000$3,000,00028.1%2019 UFA
Gerald McCoyBuccaneers$95,200,000$13,600,000$14,757,308$2,108,18715.5%2022 UFA
Linval JosephVikings$31,250,000$6,250,000$12,500,000$2,500,00040.0%2019 UFA
Paul SoliaiFalcons$32,000,000$6,400,000$11,000,000$2,200,00034.4%2019 UFA
Aaron DonaldRams$10,136,500$2,534,125$10,136,500$2,534,125100.0%2018 OFA
Arthur JonesColts$33,000,000$6,600,000$10,000,000$2,000,00030.3%2019 UFA
Star LotuleleiPanthers$9,604,500$2,401,125$9,604,500$2,401,125100.0%2017 UFA
Michael BrockersRams$9,522,000$2,380,500$9,522,000$2,380,500100.0%2017 UFA
Tyson JacksonFalcons$25,000,000$5,000,000$9,500,000$1,900,00038.0%2019 UFA
Brandon MebaneSeahawks$25,000,000$5,000,000$9,000,000$1,800,00036.0%2016 UFA
Sharrif FloydVikings$8,076,200$2,019,050$6,569,900$1,642,47581.3%2017 UFA
Ugh. Here's to hoping we don't regret this.
 

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Can see why Crawford signed- if money is truly not that important he now has enough to live comfortably the rest of his life if it is handled sensibly.
Cowboys certainly are gambling but it looks like a reasonable one and you have to gamble to get anywhere in the NFL.
 

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If he wasn't then he was close. Outside of Fletcher Cox, he is the best interior lineman in the NFCE. Suh, Poe, McCoy, Dareus, Atkins, Williams, Watt, Campbell, Donald, and maybe Richardson are better. I put him below those guys but just below them.
Hatcher should be considered an interior defensive lineman for purposes of that discussion, and I'd take Hatcher but for the age. But I wouldn't have paid Hatcher this kind of money at any point in his career.
 

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Can see why Crawford signed- if money is truly not that important he now has enough to live comfortably the rest of his life if it is handled sensibly.
Cowboys certainly are gambling but it looks like a reasonable one and you have to gamble to get anywhere in the NFL.
Theres no way Crawford could have turned down this deal. He wouldn't have been paid this much if he'd been an unrestricted free agent back in the 2014 offseason.
 

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Hatcher should be considered an interior defensive lineman for purposes of that discussion, and I'd take Hatcher but for the age. But I wouldn't have paid Hatcher this kind of money at any point in his career.

That's a good perspective to fit the situation in. Although T Craw is younger, respectively I believe.
 
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