Crayton Talking Live on ESPN

[xWraithx]

Sounds like someone missed a history lesson or two.

or 4 or 5

 

[dcfanatic]

In the beginning, he said there weren't chemistry issues. That it was like a normal team, there was going to be disagreements.

Said he was in better shape (condition) because of Owens work ethic. Its rubbed off on him and other players.

Questioned Werder's sources. Made a joke about the FBI should look into it. Implied the sources weren't from within the lockerroom.

Owens works hard, etc.

Then I left to piss.

Came back, they asked him if he thought Owens would be back.

He said he thought Owens would be a Cowboy, but its not up to him.

Dude, you convienently left at the part where he said all the 'bad stuff', lol.

You are so full of it bro.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I've worked with enough drama queens in the work place to know hey have a knack of sniffing out who's disgruntled about something, it could be anything, and then buddying up with them and channeling that resentment on a totally unrelated issue to get them to join "their side" against the "others" (whoever they may be). I could see TO doing that with MB3 in regards to Jerry's comments. I could see TO doing that with Newman if he was really upset that Wade called him out. I could see him doing that to RW11 if he felt Romo wasn't looking his way enough. This is classic textbook Pot Stirrer 101 stuff.

Mickey said something off hand yesterday that his motto for 2009 would be "Shut Up and Play", and he would love to stick signs with that motto all over the lockerroom similar to the way Parcells put up signs in the lockerroom saying "Losers sit around in little groups in the lockerroom and ***** and complain about things." I thought it was interesting Mickey used that specific sign as his example just off the top of his head.

 

[juck]

TO has a big mouth.But Garrett blows.

 

[Sasquatch]

Interesting.

What does Crayton know?

He isn't in the locker room.

Tease.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

"By the end of the season, I would say maybe a little rocky," Crayton said. "A little rocky because I think sometimes when you sit down and you have man-to-man talks, I know Terrell is one of those guys who is not going to bite his tongue, and if you're not going to be straightforward with him, there's not going to be a respect there. If you're not going to shoot him straightforward when he's shooting you straightforward and being honest ...

"He's one of those guys, like several other players, we wear our hearts on our sleeve. When it comes time to get business done on the field, that's what we're about. If you're not going to be straightforward, you're going to lose some respect there. They always say respect is earned; it's not given. You have to earn the respect of a player like that."[/COLOR]

And then he went on to say that T.O. respects Jason Garrett 'to a degree'...

Does T.O. respect Jason Garrett?

"I think he respects him to a degree," Crayton said. "I'm not sure exactly. You really have to ask him how much he really respects him totally. I'm not sure if he respects him totally because of some of the comments and some of the things that happened throughout the season."

Can T.O. and Garrett work together again?

"Yeah, I think you could definitely see them working together," Crayton said. "But, like I said, that's going to have to be a man-to-man sit-down talk. It's going to have to be no sugarcoating. Everything has to be laid out on the line. You can't be afraid to hurt somebody's feelings, because it's going to have to be said in order for us to move on and be back to the form when had in 2007 when we were 13-3 and we were on the brink of making history again.

"This past season was just really, really disappointing, just because we had all the talent but we didn't have that one thing we needed to get us over the hump, and that was some togetherness."
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The problem with all this is that TO has proven he can't take this non-sugarcoated, all-out-in-the-open talk he supposedly wants. Just ask Brad Childress or Todd Haley.

As usual, it's a one-way street with him. He can trash people and it's "honesty" and "straight shooting". When someone has one of these "man to man" talks with, he's being disrespected.

 

[dcfanatic]

Sounds like someone missed a history lesson or two.

Would you care to teach us young one?

 

[irvin4evs]

Am I the only one who remembers when a bunch of prominent Giants had their name in the press questioning Tom Coughlin and his methods? Michael Strahan, IIRC, called out Coughlin's discipline methods publicly.

They should have run him out of town for that crap! Sure, they won a super bowl shortly afterwards and he was one of their five best players, but you can't have players who say what they think!

Sure, you might say, "Hey! Doing what Dave Campo said didn't do us any good!" but I'll say, "Hey! Yes it did."

 

[dcfanatic]

The problem with all this is that TO has proven he can't take this non-sugarcoated, all-out-in-the-open talk he supposedly wants. Just ask Brad Childress or Todd Haley.

As usual, it's a one-way street with him. He can trash people and it's "honesty" and "straight shooting". When someone does it to him, he's being disrespected.

Terrell Owens is a 9 year old in a 35 year old body.

That sums it up.

 

[Vintage]

Here's what I love about the T.O. fan club.

You mention nothing about the FACT that Crayton just said the relationship between T.O. and the coaching staff was ROCKY at the end of the season.

After some harping about Ed Werder's unnamed sources, the interview really got interesting when Crayton was asked about T.O.'s relationship with the coaching staff.

"By the end of the season, I would say maybe a little rocky," Crayton said. "A little rocky because I think sometimes when you sit down and you have man-to-man talks, I know Terrell is one of those guys who is not going to bite his tongue, and if you're not going to be straightforward with him, there's not going to be a respect there. If you're not going to shoot him straightforward when he's shooting you straightforward and being honest ...

"He's one of those guys, like several other players, we wear our hearts on our sleeve. When it comes time to get business done on the field, that's what we're about. If you're not going to be straightforward, you're going to lose some respect there. They always say respect is earned; it's not given. You have to earn the respect of a player like that."

And then he went on to say that T.O. respects Jason Garrett 'to a degree'...

Does T.O. respect Jason Garrett?

"I think he respects him to a degree," Crayton said. "I'm not sure exactly. You really have to ask him how much he really respects him totally. I'm not sure if he respects him totally because of some of the comments and some of the things that happened throughout the season."

Can T.O. and Garrett work together again?

"Yeah, I think you could definitely see them working together," Crayton said. "But, like I said, that's going to have to be a man-to-man sit-down talk. It's going to have to be no sugarcoating. Everything has to be laid out on the line. You can't be afraid to hurt somebody's feelings, because it's going to have to be said in order for us to move on and be back to the form when had in 2007 when we were 13-3 and we were on the brink of making history again.

"This past season was just really, really disappointing, just because we had all the talent but we didn't have that one thing we needed to get us over the hump, and that was some togetherness."
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But let's leave all that out in trying to say that Crayton said nothing was wrong, lol.

And what history is Crayton talking about?

The history of being the first #1 seed to flop at home and not even win one playoff game?

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

At the time of the first post, the interview was just starting.

So...

He hadn't said that stuff at that point. And in the beginning, he was defending Owens.

So unless you expect me to know what Crayton was going to say ahead of time...

Epic failure on your part.

 

[irvin4evs]

Would you care to teach us young one?

There's this one guy named Peyton Manning. I don't know.

 

[dcfanatic]

Am I the only one who remembers when a bunch of prominent Giants had their name in the press questioning Tom Coughlin and his methods? Michael Strahan, IIRC, called out Coughlin's discipline methods publicly.

They should have run him out of town for that crap! Sure, they won a super bowl shortly afterwards and he was one of their five best players, but you can't have players who say what they think!

Sure, you might say, "Hey! Doing what Dave Campo said didn't do us any good!" but I'll say, "Hey! Yes it did."

That called out his offensive and defensive scheme or the fact that they thought they were being practiced too often in mini camps?

Big difference.

 

[dcfanatic]

There's this one guy named Peyton Manning. I don't know.

And?

What does that mean?

Explain how I need a history lesson Mr. know it all.

We are all waiting.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Am I the only one who remembers when a bunch of prominent Giants had their name in the press questioning Tom Coughlin and his methods? Michael Strahan, IIRC, called out Coughlin's discipline methods publicly.

They should have run him out of town for that crap! Sure, they won a super bowl shortly afterwards and he was one of their five best players, but you can't have players who say what they think!

Strahan was one of the players, but two of the most vocal were Shockey and Tiki. The funny thing is they were perennial underachievers and they did have bad chemistry until Shockey and Tiki were out of the picture ... two players who supposedly had great talents who just couldn't be replaced. They replaced them with lesser individual talents, but became a better cohesive team.

Imagine that .. football isn't won by the team with the best 53 man roster of individual talents.

 

[Vintage]

Dude, you convienently left at the part where he said all the 'bad stuff', lol.

You are so full of it bro.

I left to piss.

I didn't conveniently leave out anything.

I missed part of the interview.

I in fact said so.

You are so full of it.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

These guys know so much more than they can say in print. Wish they could tell it all, but they can't.

You think so? They've been proven dead wrong far, far, FAR more times than they've been proven right. Tells me they don't know jack squat and to take most of them with a grain of salt.

Of course Galloway is going to trash Crayton. Galloway has been trashing Owens even before he started practicing with the team, resorting to cheap shots an immature insults. So when Crayton dares to back Owens, Galloway has to trash Crayton because it goes against what Galloway has been claiming all along.

I wish they could tell the truth and get accurate sources and stories, but for some reason they can't.


YAKUZA

 

[dcfanatic]

At the time of the first post, the interview was just starting.

So...

He hadn't said that stuff at that point. And in the beginning, he was defending Owens.

So unless you expect me to know what Crayton was going to say ahead of time...

Epic failure on your part.

Yeah I was the one who failed on this one because you didn't wait to see Crayton start up some drama and then you lied and said you missed that part because you went to the bathroom, lol.


Classic.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

I left to piss.

I didn't conveniently leave out anything.

I missed part of the interview.

I in fact said so.

You are so full of it.

Did you squat?

 

[irvin4evs]

And?

What does that mean?

Explain how I need a history lesson Mr. know it all.

We are all waiting.

Figure it out bro. You act like you're pretty smart.

Inman - So they made a mistake in not cutting Strahan, yes? I also have to question your memory in saying that Strahan was less than Tiki and Shockey. I remember Strahan and Tiki. I don't remember Shockey really doing anything but ***** about stuff in general, not the discipline methods of his coaches.

edit: Moreover, Shockey wasn't gone by roster transaction--he was hurt and still a member of the team.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You think so? They've been proven dead wrong far, far, FAR more times than they've been proven right. Tells me they don't know jack squat and to take most of them with a grain of salt.

Of course Galloway is going to trash Crayton. Galloway has been trashing Owens even before he started practicing with the team, resorting to cheap shots an immature insults. So when Crayton dares to back Owens, Galloway has to trash Crayton because it goes against what Galloway has been claiming all along.

Nope, I have to disagree with that. Like I said, Galloway has backed Crayton forever even though Owens has been here three full seasons now. It's only the last few weeks that he's changed his mind and said this about Crayton.

And these reporters all know and talk to people close to and on the team, even if it's off the record. They know a lot more than we do, even if they can't say it in their articles. The best proof of that was when they were talking about Quincy getting back on drugs and the whole team knowing about it, and that being the real reason Hutchinson started before they really wanted him to. They said EVERYONE around the team knew this was going on, but we never heard about it in the press.