Crayton Talking Live on ESPN

[wileedog]

Im still PO'ed that we were constantly forcing the ball to Terrell Owens the 1st Commanders game while using Marion Barber sparingly and not even using Felix Jones.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I've worked with enough drama queens in the work place to know hey have a knack of sniffing out who's disgruntled about something, it could be anything, and then buddying up with them and channeling that resentment on a totally unrelated issue to get them to join "their side" against the "others" (whoever they may be). I could see TO doing that with MB3 in regards to Jerry's comments. I could see TO doing that with Newman if he was really upset that Wade called him out. I could see him doing that to RW11 if he felt Romo wasn't looking his way enough. This is classic textbook Pot Stirrer 101 stuff.

Mickey said something off hand yesterday that his motto for 2009 would be "Shut Up and Play", and he would love to stick signs with that motto all over the lockerroom similar to the way Parcells put up signs in the lockerroom saying "Losers sit around in little groups in the lockerroom and ***** and complain about things." I thought it was interesting Mickey used that specific sign as his example just off the top of his head.

There is alot of truth in this post.

 

[skinsscalper]

Terrell Owens is not the only player on this offense making HUGE amounts of cash.

Folks need to come to grips and realize that this isn't Philadelphia. The Dallas Cowboys are bigger than Terrell Owens and is not the only Playmaker on Offense.

What is so sad about Terrell Owens is the times he chooses to publicly gripe.

Like after the Commanders Game, he had the nerve to whine, when he was thrown the most passes since he joined the team.

People need to also realize a few things:
1) The guys on the other side of the ball are getting paid, are pretty good and will not let one player beat them on a consistent basis.

2) Say what you want but Terrell Owens got punked at the Line of Scrimmage by some of those Cornerbacks. Yeah, those guys had help deep but they used the scheme to their advantage.

3) As stated earlier, Terrell Owens is not the only players on Offense making huge amounts of cash and the only guy that can make plays.

Im still PO'ed that we were constantly forcing the ball to Terrell Owens the 1st Commanders game while using Marion Barber sparingly and not even using Felix Jones.

2) You're right he did get punked and no adjustment was made offensively to utilize other players.

3) Correct again and yet, they too have been under-utilized.

4) Yet again an ill-concieved gameplan completely rendering an all-star roster useless.

You noticing a trend here, yet?

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

name the movie

se7en?

 

[JordanTaber]

It's funny, Galloway has always been a huge Crayton fan, going back to his rookie year when he started to show something. Even always called him the new Drew Pearson (former college QB, late/not drafted, etc.)

But the last few weeks, he's totally changed his tune and says Crayton has to go because TO has gotten to him. He says Miles Austin is the one receiver who hasn't bought into TO's BS. Even Mosley said that when TO and Crayton and Roy W were sort of huddled up and going their own ways on things, Miles kind of said "Thanks but no thanks" and went about his business on his own.

These guys know so much more than they can say in print. Wish they could tell it all, but they can't.

You've made a lot of ridiculous statements, but that one really takes the cake.

Good lord.

Reporters can print anything they want so long as they're telling the truth (and of course, there are ways to stretch this). If they're concerned about protecting "sources," they can easily go the "anonymous source" route.

Let's examine this, really. Owens, Roy, and Crayton were "huddled up" and Miles was "going his own way?"

Isn't this similar to the "Roy, Owens, and Crayton all asked for and were granted a meeting with Jason Garrett" story that has since been refuted by every person under the sun?

The false story that one of these people who "knows so much more than they can say in print" broke?

 

[Idgit]

You've made a lot of ridiculous statements, but that one really takes the cake.

Good lord.

Reporters can print anything they want so long as they're telling the truth (and of course, there are ways to stretch this). If they're concerned about protecting "sources," they can easily go the "anonymous source" route.

Let's examine this, really. Owens, Roy, and Crayton were "huddled up" and Miles was "going his own way?"

Isn't this similar to the "Roy, Owens, and Crayton all asked for and were granted a meeting with Jason Garrett" story that has since been refuted by every person under the sun?

The false story that one of these people who "knows so much more than they can say in print" broke?

CL's right. There's a lot of things reporters hear that they don't print because they can't verify it. It doesn't necessarily mean that everything they hear is true, but they certainly have access we don't, and they don't print everything they have access to. There's also off-the-record conversations that fit into this category.

And you can't always go the anonymous source route, b/c they need to be concerned that they not out their source simply by context.

And I understand that you're comfortable so far out on that limb that you're like one of those cartoon characters who's just not bright enough to realize he should fall yet, but I challenge you to find something really ridiculous posted by CL. As long as 'ridiculous' does not = 'anything negative about TO,' I don't think you'll be able to produce much.

 

[JordanTaber]

Terrell Owens is not the only player on this offense making HUGE amounts of cash.

Folks need to come to grips and realize that this isn't Philadelphia. The Dallas Cowboys are bigger than Terrell Owens and is not the only Playmaker on Offense.

What is so sad about Terrell Owens is the times he chooses to publicly gripe.

Like after the Commanders Game, he had the nerve to whine, when he was thrown the most passes since he joined the team.

People need to also realize a few things:
1) The guys on the other side of the ball are getting paid, are pretty good and will not let one player beat them on a consistent basis.

2) Say what you want but Terrell Owens got punked at the Line of Scrimmage by some of those Cornerbacks. Yeah, those guys had help deep but they used the scheme to their advantage.

3) As stated earlier, Terrell Owens is not the only players on Offense making huge amounts of cash and the only guy that can make plays.

Im still PO'ed that we were constantly forcing the ball to Terrell Owens the 1st Commanders game while using Marion Barber sparingly and not even using Felix Jones.

Yet again, since this never seems to sink in with people:

He was ASKED if he was satisfied with the number of passes thrown his way after the game, and he answered with,

"I'm a competitor, so I'm gonna have to say no. I want the ball."

He did NOT complain. He was thrown to more in that one game than he ever has been in his entire Cowboys career.

Owens did not offer up this explanation; he was simply trying to answer a baiting question in the best way possible...which is what he did.

Unfortunately, the media removed the question itself (as they so often did) when they presented it in articles to make it look like Owens just offered this up unprompted.

If Owens wasn't satisfied from an "effort to get him the ball" standpoint after the Commanders game, then the reality is he has NEVER been satisfied in his ENTIRE COWBOYS CAREER.

This also suggests he's never been satisfied in his career, PERIOD...other than maybe the Bears game in 2000 when he caught 20 balls.

So it's a dead issue.

 

[JordanTaber]

CL's right. There's a lot of things reporters hear that they don't print because they can't verify it. It doesn't necessarily mean that everything they hear is true, but they certainly have access we don't, and they don't print everything they have access to. There's also off-the-record conversations that fit into this category.

And you can't always go the anonymous source route, b/c they need to be concerned that they not out their source simply by context.

And I understand that you're comfortable so far out on that limb that you're like one of those cartoon characters who's just not bright enough to realize he should fall yet, but I challenge you to find something really ridiculous posted by CL. As long as 'ridiculous' does not = 'anything negative about TO,' I don't think you'll be able to produce much.

Context is never a significant impediment; any skilled writer can circumvent it.

For example, let's say Jerry Jones leaked something to him and wanted his name kept away from the quote. All the reporter would have to do is say "one member of the Cowboys' front office told me..." End of problem.

This idea that players and coaches have nothing better to do than talk with reporters "off the record"...that these reporters are just SUCH NICE PEOPLE that the players can't stay away from them...is unbelievably naive. Nobody on the team is meeting with Ed Werder or Jennifer Floyd Engel for coffee after practice gets out.

They're not these walking cesspools of information that CL seems to think they are.

They couldn't even get a big story they DID try to print correct (the Garrett meetings with Owens, Roy, and Crayton). They got everything so mixed up it was an embarrassment...and yet we're supposed to believe they have such a valuable perspective of what takes place behind the scenes?

They only see what the team lets them see, which is really very little. The sensationalized stuff you see is mostly them desperately trying to make inferences.

As for CL, honestly, I think his overreaction to Cris Carter's "shooting Owens" (which obviously wasn't meant literally) comments was ridiculous. As much as I enjoyed watching Carter get a taste of his own medicine, there was no reason to make a big deal out of some stupid remark like that.

CL just takes certain things too seriously and seems to think football locker rooms work like playgrounds, with bad kids corrupting other kids and everyone caring about who's "fwends" with who. Next we'll be hearing about how T.O. and Roy made fun of Tony Romo and Wade Phillips in front of everyone and that they spat in Tony's lunch box. Romo was therefore unable to concentrate on his film study.

 

[ctrous25]

se7en?

yeah I think thats what hes talking about it..at the end Morgan Freeman says that exact line hes referring too

 

[Chocolate Lab]

As for CL, honestly, I think his overreaction to Cris Carter's "shooting Owens" (which obviously wasn't meant literally) comments was ridiculous.

You must have me mixed up with someone else. That was a very stupid comment by Carter in this PC age, but I never made a big deal out of it. I barely even posted on it.

The comments about Crayton and TO weren't my own; they were Galloway's. I was just relaying what I'd heard. I don't claim to know what exactly goes on in the locker room and never have.

As for the comments about writers, you really think they write every single thing they know about the team? Of course they don't. Everyone seems to agree on that except you.

But if they did and it was about TO, you'd deny it anyway.

 

[dcfanatic]

Mickey said something off hand yesterday that his motto for 2009 would be "Shut Up and Play", and he would love to stick signs with that motto all over the lockerroom similar to the way Parcells put up signs in the lockerroom saying "Losers sit around in little groups in the lockerroom and ***** and complain about things." I thought it was interesting Mickey used that specific sign as his example just off the top of his head.

WHHHHAAAAAATTTTTTT??????

That son of a *****!!!

He stole that from me!

I said that was the motto for the 2009 season on DCFanatic Radio on January 10th with Hostile and Sonnyboy.

I got it from the Jason Witten audio from his appearance on The Ticket.

Now I email Mickey and start a war!

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

 

[JordanTaber]

You must have me mixed up with someone else. That was a very stupid comment by Carter in this PC age, but I never made a big deal out of it. I barely even posted on it.

The comments about Crayton and TO weren't my own; they were Galloway's. I was just relaying what I'd heard. I don't claim to know what exactly goes on in the locker room and never have.

As for the comments about writers, you really think they write every single thing they know about the team? Of course they don't. Everyone seems to agree on that except you.

But if they did and it was about TO, you'd deny it anyway.

They don't write about every single thing they know about the team; merely everything they hear that they deem "newsworthy." And if it involves Terrell Owens, it's automatically newsworthy.

Nobody in the media is holding back negative information on Terrell Owens. Everything they can ever throw together is put on display for all to see.