Crayton's QB experiment and Green

[ZeroClub]

Parcells has mentioned the possibility of carrying only two quarterbacks. And it makes some sense given the roster numbers.

Parcells, perhaps only joking, has also mentioned Green and Crayton as QBs (both having played QB earlier in their careers).

I remember Crayton lining up as QB for the Cowboys in a goalline situation once. It didn't work particularly well. I don't recall if it was in the preseason or regular.

Does anybody remember any reports of Crayton lining up as QB in training camp? (Not this year, but in previous years)

I'm curious whether Parcells would consider using Green as a change-up QB in the same way it was tried with Crayton.

And if so, whether we'd know about it ahead of time (as a result of training camp practice sessions).

 

[JackMagist]

That was the worst excuse for an attempt at a trick play I have ever seen. Didn't they try to use Vinny as a receiver on that thing? It was a whack play and it flopped like a fresh cowpatty.

I haven't seen Crayton under center since then and don't expect to see it any time soon. I could see us letting Crayton attempt a reverse option pass...that would actually be a good play for him if he can throw on the run.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I remember last year in the niners game, Crayton during punt formation lined up under center and tried a qb sneak.

 

[DragonCowboy]

That was the worst excuse for an attempt at a trick play I have ever seen. Didn't they try to use Vinny as a receiver on that thing? It was a whack play and it flopped like a fresh cowpatty.

Yeah, 2004 Dallas @ Seattle. That was the fastest that I've ever seen Vinny run, I remember telling my mom that.

Instead of doing anything, I think it was like a direct snap to JJ or something and he got stuffed.

That was a 2 pt. conversion attempt.

EDIT: Anyway, does anyone think that this is how BP can get an extra receiver or a kickoff specialist on his roster, by only playing two QB's?

 

[Cochese]

Crayton was Mr. Everything for his college team. I wouldnt mind him as the emergency QB because if it came down to him, we would be horribly screwed no matter what happened.

 

[ZeroClub]

That was the worst excuse for an attempt at a trick play I have ever seen. Didn't they try to use Vinny as a receiver on that thing? It was a whack play and it flopped like a fresh cowpatty.

Yeah, it wasn't pretty. I think you are right, Testaverde went wide.

 

[JackMagist]

It would not be the first time a team went with only two QBs. Usually if you get down to the third QB in a game you are screwed anyway...so it might as well be Crayton. In the years between Jason Garrett leaving and Romo arriving we never had a #3 that I trusted anyway.

 

[DragonCowboy]

Yeah, it wasn't pretty. I think you are right, Testaverde went wide.

The whole trick play was kinda pointless.

Crayton takes QB, Vinny runs to the left side, and you expect something to happen with either of them, or something. Then, of course, JJ gets the ball like 8 yards behind the goal line. That was really, really stupid for a 2 pt conversion.

 

[ZeroClub]

It could be that Green would be a better choice than Crayton.

I say that even though Crayton is probably a little better suited to run a conventional offense.

Green is more elusive and presumably would make a better running threat at QB (and a better trick play QB).

Hopefully, that would be the only capacity in which a 3rd QB would see the field - as a change of pace trick play guy.

Crayton is the 3rd receiver and has to get ready to play that postion in practice.

Green would be much further down the list; he might be the guy who can afford to take more time getting ready to run a few plays.

 

[kojak]

Actually I remember in 2004, the last game of the season against the Giants. Crayton lined up as a WR and what looked like a reverse was actually a pass option. He threw an INT on a pass intended for Witten, who was wide open on the play and would of been a TD if the ball hadn't been underthrown just a tad.

 

[TurtleTurds]

roy williams as our 3rd string QB!!!
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[LaTunaNostra]

Well, Bill used to carry Tommy Tupa as his 3rd qb.

Patrick's probably at least as viable as 'that'.

 

[Pokes28]

Lets use Greg Ellis. He's seems pretty adaptive...

David Harrell - Pokes
dwh

 

[ZeroClub]

Lets use Greg Ellis. He's seems pretty adaptive...

And you know exactly what we'd hear:

We shouldn't be surprised that Ellis made the successful transition to QB. He's still wearing the same shoes and playing on the same field. The only things that differ are that he's lining up under center now, instead of outside of a tackle, and he has some new passing responsibilities.

 

[LD Fan]

It could be that Green would be a better choice than Crayton.

I say that even though Crayton is probably a little better suited to run a conventional offense.

Green is more elusive and presumably would make a better running threat at QB (and a better trick play QB).

Hopefully, that would be the only capacity in which a 3rd QB would see the field - as a change of pace trick play guy.

Crayton is the 3rd receiver and has to get ready to play that postion in practice.

Green would be much further down the list; he might be the guy who can afford to take more time getting ready to run a few plays.

This is really an absurd string. If Crayton or Green took a snap, it would only be in an emergency situation. The game would probably be lost, they would take the snap, turn and hand it off for the rest of the game.

 

[AbeBeta]

This is really an absurd string. If Crayton or Green took a snap, it would only be in an emergency situation. The game would probably be lost, they would take the snap, turn and hand it off for the rest of the game.

Better yet, when was the last time a team had its top two QBs knocked out in the same game?

 

[ZeroClub]

This is really an absurd string. If Crayton or Green took a snap, it would only be in an emergency situation. The game would probably be lost, they would take the snap, turn and hand it off for the rest of the game.

It isn't absurd, but it is a minor issue.

If Parcells decides to carry only 2 QBs on his roster (which could easily happen), does Parcells prepare some 3rd player to handle the emergency QB duties? If so, who is the player?

I think Green makes sense. He could hand off as well as Crayton in an emergency situation, and Green might offer more in the way of trickplay possibilities - if Parcells decided to try to pull something like that again.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Better yet, when was the last time a team had its top two QBs knocked out in the same game?

Haha! J-E-T-S.

Last year, Pennington went out, then one drive of Fiedler - boom! And both were lost for the year...same game.

It 'happens', rarely, but it does happen.

 

[ZeroClub]

Better yet, when was the last time a team had its top two QBs knocked out in the same game?

Yeah, that's right.

I don't think there is much of a chance that a 3rd team QB would see action due to both of the top two QBs getting knocked out of a game. I think it is somewhat more likely that Parcells would use the 3rd QB in a trick play situation.

 

[AbeBeta]

Haha! J-E-T-S.

Last year, Pennington went out, then one drive of Fiedler - boom! And both were lost for the year...same game.

It 'happens', rarely, but it does happen.

And when it happened the J-E-T-S were S-C-R-E-W-E-D for the year

Would they really have had things go differently without a 3rd QB in that game?