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Lions | Orlovsky misses practice Wednesday
Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:49:15 -0800

Nicholas J. Cotsonika, of the Detroit Free Press, reports Detroit Lions QB Dan Orlovsky (thumb) missed the team's practice Wednesday, Nov. 5. He is scheduled to see a specialist Thursday, Nov. 6, in New York and will not practice Thursday afternoon. He said in his mind he can play in Week 10, but there are reports he will miss at least a few weeks.
 

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Lions offensive linemen prepare to protect Daunte Culpepper
They say it could be a snap

BY JO-ANN BARNAS • FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER • November 5, 2008

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There are layers of information that quarterback Daunte Culpepper must start assimilating today in his first practice with the Lions.
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His teammates on the offensive line, meanwhile, face challenges of their own.

Some issues they have no control over, such as the questions that accompanied the Lions' announcement Tuesday that they had officially signed Culpepper to a two-year deal.

• Will Culpepper, a former three-time Pro Bowl selection with the Minnesota Vikings, play in Sunday's home game against Jacksonville?

• If the answer is yes, then in what capacity?

• Are the 0-8 Lions preparing Culpepper to unseat Dan Orlovsky -- who replaced Jon Kitna four games ago -- as their starter?

Members of the offensive line say they expect the quarterback situation to resolve itself in practice this week, assuming Orlovsky -- who suffered a sprained thumb on his first play of Sunday's 27-23 loss at Chicago -- is good to go.

Orlovsky said Monday he could play against the Jaguars, but Lions coach Rod Marinelli has not named a starter.

Culpepper would be the Lions' third starting quarterback in nine games if the Lions choose to start him Sunday. But without the benefit of training camp, how successful can the Lions be in adapting to a new quarterback in so short a period of time?

For backup center Damion Cook, the biggest adjustment for the offensive line won't be seen as much as heard.

"Just getting used to the sound of his voice," said Cook, referring to a quarterback's speed and inflection in delivering the snap count. "That's why you practice -- you don't want to anticipate a snap count too quick and then be offsides or have a false start."

Cook smiled and added: "That's hardly an issue, though. I mean, as a team we have bigger fish to fry than that."

Cook is a candidate to replace Dominic Raiola at center if Raiola can't go against the Jaguars because of an injury to his snapping hand.

Culpepper, 31, was one of the league's most prolific passers until he tore three knee ligaments in 2005. In seven seasons with the Vikings he passed for more than 20,000 yards. After undergoing knee surgery, Culpepper tried to make a comeback but struggled. He started four games in Miami in 2006 and six in Oakland last season.

When he couldn't land a job this summer, Culpepper retired. But he recently came out of retirement when teams began expressing interest in him.

"I'll tell you what," Cook said. "I played against Daunte back when he was lighting scoreboards up in Minnesota, when I was with Chicago. So I know what he can do. When he's healthy and feeling good, he was a great quarterback -- that's not a secret. It's unfortunate that he's been hurt the last couple of years. But he was once among the best.

"Daunte is a smart veteran. I would expect for him to come in and just be ready."

Lions right guard Stephen Peterman said he thinks it would take the offensive line "about a day" to get used to having Culpepper under center.

"There will be a little bit of a transition to begin with -- getting used to his snap count, his voice, his checks and stuff," Peterman said. "But once the coaches get with him, it comes pretty quick."

Drew Henson, a Lions backup at quarterback, said developing consistency and rhythm between the quarterback and his receivers is imperative.

"To be really efficient, there's different throws for different guys," Henson said. "We have tall guys, smaller guys, medium guys -- and everyone has different speed. Everyone runs routes essentially the same depth and things, but every guy's body language is a little bit different. Calvin has long strides; Shaun (McDonald) has smaller strides.

"That's something you're constantly working on. And there's different target areas for different-sized guys -- like with Calvin, you can throw a ball at his face or above his head.

"But to me, the biggest thing for the line and a quarterback is that consistency with the center. For the most part it's easy, but you still have to rep it before you get into the scheme and terminology. But it's always the first thing to take care of because you can't get anything done if you don't get that snap right."

Contact JO-ANN BARNAS at 313-222-2037 or jbarnas@freepress.com.
 

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Lions QB Dan Orlovsky to see hand specialist in N.Y.

By NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA • FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER • November 5, 2008

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• Quarterback Dan Orlovsky did not practice today. He said he will see a specialist Thursday morning in New York and will not practice Thursday afternoon.

The Lions have said Orlovsky has a sprained thumb on his throwing hand. Asked whether he had a fracture, he said the specialist would give him the results of the X rays Thursday morning.

Orlovsky said, in his mind, he could play Sunday against Jacksonville. But it could be only in his mind. His injury and the Lions’ apparent lack of faith in backup Drew Stanton strongly suggest that newly signed Daunte Culpepper, will start even though he will have had only three days of practice.

Culpepper and Stanton declined to comment on how the reps were distributed in practiced today. Stanton said he was told not to talk about it.

• Center Dominic Raiola did not practice. He said he has a broken thumb on his snapping hand but hasn’t ruled himself out for Sunday. He said he has snapped with his left hand in the past and could do it again.
 

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Nors;2403836 said:
Not looking good - Dan O to see specialist


Lions | Orlovsky misses practice Wednesday
Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:49:15 -0800

Nicholas J. Cotsonika, of the Detroit Free Press, reports Detroit Lions QB Dan Orlovsky (thumb) missed the team's practice Wednesday, Nov. 5. He is scheduled to see a specialist Thursday, Nov. 6, in New York and will not practice Thursday afternoon. He said in his mind he can play in Week 10, but there are reports he will miss at least a few weeks.

Do try to make up your mind, Nors-- are you a Cowboys fan (doubtful), a Pats fan (more likely), or a freakin' Lions fan??

Nobody in here cares about the Lions, or your lack of a Big O... how many threads do you have to get shut down before you give it a rest??
 

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Such a shame for the Big O. Now his below average skills will likely comeback from an injury in a few weeks only to find that he's been replaced by another QB with below average skill.
 

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I don't see how Culpepper can step in and play this weekend. It's like Detroit is trying to set him up for failure. Let Stanton play, see what they have in him.
 

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I will have an update on this crisis in Detroit tonight.
 

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MrMom;2405656 said:
I don't see how Culpepper can step in and play this weekend. It's like Detroit is trying to set him up for failure. Let Stanton play, see what they have in him.

I thought Stanton was banged up too?
 

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Orlovsky hurt his thumb FIRST play of game and threw for nearly 300 yards. He took a shot and threw fine. I sense unless a real bad diagnosis he starts Sunday.





Tom Kowalski's 'The Point After': Lions awaiting results on Orlovsky's hand
by James Schmehl | MLive.com
Thursday November 06, 2008, 8:20 PM

With the majority of talk surrounding newly acquired quarterback Daunte Culpepper and Drew Stanton, it appears as if last week's starting quarterback Dan Orlovsky is already an afterthought in the Lions' offense.

But according to Lions insider Tom Kowalski, everyone - including Orlovsky- is still in the mix to start Sunday.

"We still don't know if Dan Orlovsky is definitely out of this game," Kowalski said on his hour-long weekly show The Point After on WDFN.

Lions coach Rod Marinelli said Orlovsky visited a hand specialist on Thursday in New York and is awaiting results before ruling him out of Sunday's contest.

"They think if he is healthy enough to play, grip a ball and throw it, that he may be part of this game," Kowalski said. "I don't think that's going to happen. From everything I have heard, he has a broken bone in or around his right thumb - I don't think he's going to be a factor, but the Lions have not confirmed that."

Listen to the whole show to hear Killer discuss Sunday's matchup between the Lions and the Jaguars. Is this the week the Lions snap their winless streak? Killer think so.
 

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Nors;2406175 said:
I will have an update on this crisis in Detroit tonight.

Post it somewhere that somebody might actually care...
 

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Nors;2406190 said:
Orlovsky hurt his thumb FIRST play of game and threw for nearly 300 yards.

Or to look at it another way, he threw the ball 47 freakin' times and STILL didn't throw for 300 yards...
 

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silverbear;2406428 said:
Post it somewhere that somebody might actually care...

This is America, you keep posting in thread.:star:

Stay tuned!
 

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Stanton or Culpepper? No indication yet from Lions
by Tom Kowalski
Friday November 07, 2008, 12:10 AM
ALLEN PARK -- With less than 72 hours left before the 0-8 Detroit Lions host the 3-5 Jacksonville Jaguars, the Lions' quarterback situation has come down to three men and a maybe.

Lions coach Rod Marinelli on Thursday said a decision on Dan Orlovsky's availability for Sunday's game would not be made until 4 p.m. today. It has been widely reported that Orlovsky has a fracture in or around his right thumb, but the Lions have not confirmed that.

"I just want to get the information. We'll see where he's at and we'll go from there," Marinelli said. "I think we're going to carry four quarterbacks, we just have to adjust a little bit with our roster."

The other three quarterbacks are free agent Daunte Culpepper, who signed with the team Tuesday, Drew Stanton and Drew Henson. While it appears Culpepper is the likely starter Sunday, Marinelli still would not commit to anything.

While it would be unusual to start a veteran at quarterback within a week of signing him in-season, Marinelli said it had been done before in the league: "Certain veterans can do it and some can't, and that's what I'm trying to find out right now. The learning curve is gigantic each day."

With Culpepper and Stanton sharing reps and the Lions trying to get both of them ready, Marinelli has expanded the offensive practice periods to get both players as much preparation as possible.

"I've extended some periods for our offense," Marinelli said. "I've extended periods and kept the defense short. I'm getting more reps in a period than I have been."

In an apparent effort to keep things under wraps, Marinelli changed the media schedule. For the past three years, the offensive and defensive coordinators were available to the media after Thursday's practice. This week, though, Marinelli did the media briefing himself.

"They really wanted to do it, but I miss you guys. You get what you get," Marinelli said.

In recent interviews with the media, offensive coordinator Jim Colletto has said some controversial things.

A few weeks ago, one day after Marinelli said he would not discuss who was starting at right tackle, Colletto revealed that rookie Gosder Cherilus was being benched in favor of George Foster.

Last week, Colletto repeatedly said Stanton was not ready to play and said he would not "embarrass" Stanton by putting the quarterback on the field before he was ready.

Marinelli said those comments had nothing to do with why Colletto was not talking to the media Thursday.

"I just like doing it," Marinelli said. "I think it's the right thing to do."

After Thursday's practice, Stanton continued to say he has nothing to say and Culpepper politely refused all interview requests. "I've got nothing to say," Culpepper said.
 

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big O is ruled out for Sunday. Culpepper likely to start per espn ticker
 

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Damn - he was playing with two fractures.
shoot it up again!


Lions QB Orlovsky may need surgery on right thumb
Friday, November 07, 2008

ALLEN PARK, Mich. -- Detroit Lions starting quarterback Dan Orlovsky says he may need thumb surgery for two fractures and a torn ligament.

Orlovsky hopes to return later in the season, and coach Rod Marinelli won't say which of Detroit's remaining quarterbacks will start against Jacksonville on Sunday.

Daunte Culpepper signed a two-year deal with the winless Lions on Tuesday and then practiced the next day for the first time this year. The 31-year-old Culpepper was a three-time Pro Bowl quarterback in Minnesota before a knee injury stunted his career in 2005.

Drew Stanton is in his second season in the NFL and hasn't played this year.
 
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