News: CW: Rico Gathers' marijuana arrest video, via bodycam footage, released

[kskboys]

So why not cut bait earlier?

An NFL GM who doesn't understand the game at this level.

 

[erod]

As Jimmy Johnson told Bill Belichick on his boat in the Keys, "hit me in the head with a hammer the next time I take a dumb guy."

 

[kskboys]

Rico's pretty much done here. If his crappy on-field play and Witt returning didn't do him in, an arrest probably will.

Although in his defense, I will say that the offensive staff did him a disservice by trying to teach him how to block in any way, shape or form. You're starting with an 8th grade level player technique-wise, you're never going to make him into a well-rounded Y tight end. Just have him run downfield and grab the rebound from the safety.

Maybe Rico never had it as a receiver (his jump ball attempt vs Tennessee was pretty pitiful), but trying to bulk up a basketball player and make him a blocker just screams of Garrett taking a square peg and trying to put it into his system's round hole. Just like how we never threw to Zeke for two and a half seasons, just like how we parked a dominant press-man corner as a deep zone FS, just like how we made a great zone-blocking line switch to a power scheme they struggled in, just like how we kept running 3 TE sets with the worst starting 3 TEs in football. The coaches have a scheme in mind and they're going to execute it, talent on the field be damned.

Don't forget playing a 3 tech as a one tech(More than once), making a speed RB bulk up until he lost his quickness, paying a #2 Cb as a #1, trading for a slant running WR when you have a QB who doesn't throw the slant well, forcing the best YAC WR in the game to run a pile of deep routes, and not changing the way you call plays until your bum is on the line.

 

[glimmerman]

Now the law is done goodell will suspend him. And Elliot.

 

[Walker]

I still remember all the Hall of Fame talk on this guy LOL

 

[GMO415]

If you want to smoke weed, smoke in your house. No State allows you to smoke it in pubic. That is some arrogant crap.

 

[buybuydandavis]

The guy can't play, three years still raw, missing assignments, can't block, terrible route runner, not fast or quick, shows up to camp twenty pounds heavier (292lbs)when he should have been 20 pounds lighter, can't play tightend at almost 300, looks like a basketball player, not a football player, the Cowboys are wasting a roster spot on him , time to move on from the overhyped Rico Gathers experiment!

We didn't waste a roster spot on him. PS his first year, wasn't reactivated from IR his second. Last year was his first year to really play. He could block. We have him for 2 more years.

We drafted Rico as a project. Surprise! Turns out he is one. But he got to be usable last year. Should give us more this year. And we don't have another blocking TE on the roster.

And as I described in the long post above, getting his weight back up was the *right* move. He's not going to be Jerry Rice any time soon. But he has the size and strength to be a good blocking TE.

 

[The Quest for Six]

We didn't waste a roster spot on him. PS his first year, wasn't reactivated from IR his second. Last year was his first year to really play. He could block. We have him for 2 more years.

We drafted Rico as a project. Surprise! Turns out he is one. But he got to be usable last year. Should give us more this year. And we don't have another blocking TE on the roster.

And as I described in the long post above, getting his weight back up was the *right* move. He's not going to be Jerry Rice any time soon. But he has the size and strength to be a good blocking TE.

No, getting his weight was NOT the correct move, he was 272lbs, he should have been 20lbs lighter, not 20 pounds heavier to 292lb, he's a tightend, not defensive end, he was a project, a basketball player who still looks like a basketball player, not a football player......he has not progressed, three years is long enough, he's not developing, and he can only block if it's the correct defender to block but he misses that assignment every two out of three times....

 

[Big_D]

We didn't waste a roster spot on him. PS his first year, wasn't reactivated from IR his second. Last year was his first year to really play. He could block. We have him for 2 more years.

We drafted Rico as a project. Surprise! Turns out he is one. But he got to be usable last year. Should give us more this year. And we don't have another blocking TE on the roster.

And as I described in the long post above, getting his weight back up was the *right* move. He's not going to be Jerry Rice any time soon. But he has the size and strength to be a good blocking TE.

He did well blocking this year. For some reason RG is a hot topic. One of those ridiculous love/hate scenarios on the forums, But for a guy who never played a down of college football, year 4 should be where you see him turn a corner.

 

[buybuydandavis]

No, getting his weight was NOT the correct move, he was 272lbs, he should have been 20lbs lighter, not 20 pounds heavier to 292lb, he's a tightend, not defensive end, he was a project, a basketball player who still looks like a basketball player, not a football player......he has not progressed, three years is long enough, he's not developing, and he can only block if it's the correct defender to block but he misses that assignment every two out of three times....

20 lbs lighter. Great! We'll just chisel off 20lbs of muscle (because what use can 20lbs of muscle be in football?) so we can have a slow receiving TE without the bulk to block who can't run routes. Fantastic.

Have you watched all of Rico's plays this year? Someone around here has, and he reported Rico has become a decent blocker. The project player is developing.

 

[BillyBates]

well now we know. his eyes half shut he couldn't see, read, or understand the play book, never seen the ball or cops coming ether,. Fool.

 

[blueblood70]

TMZ=***EVERDUDES

..first off, how do they get these videos?

thats the calmest arrest ive ever seen, it was dark , never showed a face, no identity, voices all LOW..to me a non story, more then half the counties and or citys officers would have let them go on a promise to appear and simply took the weed for evidence...regardless of what we all think of Rico this was stupid video to release when Pot laws are so laxed now and most offers have subjective and cart blanch to simply let people go with an appear ticket..Frisco hmm maybe not..glad they got this maniac off the street , looks like they were about to menace society LOL

 

[Big_D]

TMZ=***EVERDUDES

..first off, how do they get these videos?

thats the calmest arrest ive ever seen, it was dark , never showed a face, no identity, voices all LOW..to me a non story, more then half the counties and or citys officers would have let them go on a promise to appear and simply took the weed for evidence...regardless of what we all think of Rico this was stupid video to release when Pot laws are so laxed now and most offers have subjective and cart blanch to simply let people go with an appear ticket..Frisco hmm maybe not..glad they got this maniac off the street , looks like they were about to menace society LOL

You want to get everyone's panties in a bunch just show Ricos arrest footage from 8 months ago.

 

[The Quest for Six]

20 lbs lighter. Great! We'll just chisel off 20lbs of muscle (because what use can 20lbs of muscle be in football?) so we can have a slow receiving TE without the bulk to block who can't run routes. Fantastic.

Have you watched all of Rico's plays this year? Someone around here has, and he reported Rico has become a decent blocker. The project player is developing.

A guy that lumbers when he runs and bad routes as it is is going to run slower with 20 extra pounds on, not faster.....he's done developing, he is what he is......a basketball player who clearly can't play Football at the NFL level!

 

[beware_d-ware]

Yeah, with the pickup of Olawale last year, I was hoping we'd go 20 formation and leave the JV TE squad on the bench for most of the games. 3 guys, all borderline PS squad players. But no. "Next man up". Even when Swaim went out.

But as for Rico, I think the opposite from you. Blocking should have been the first thing he learned, and by most accounts, it wasn't seriously attempted til this year.

We've turned LBs into FBs in an offseason. As far as TEs go, Rico's advantage is his size and strength. That can be best leveraged as a blocker, not a receiver. If Rico could learn to block and run a few short yardage routes he's an asset in short yardage and goal line. That's a career in the NFL.

His best near term future was more Mike Vrabel than Dez. A short yardage guy who could move people with his power, with soft hands and eyes that could track a ball to catch a short pass.

It's running real routes downfield that was going to take a long long time. Top college WRs come into the league and can take years to learn.

Telling Rico to go be Lynn Swann first was sure to fail. Even watching him run, he looked like Escobar. But worse. Similar long striding plodder. But slower. With worse hands. And *much* worse routes. All in all, as a *receiver*, he showed nothing that indicated he would ever be as good as Escobar. And Escobar is now out of work with AAF folding.

What Rico had over Escobar was size and strength. Make use of that as a blocker, where he's got 20lbs of muscle, at least, on his TE competition, and Rico can have something better than Escobar, better blocking, and be more than Escobar was. Which is necessary if you want to play in the NFL.

The attempted goal line post up for Rico was a clown show. He just looked bad. Not even a basketball player, let alone a post up receiving threat. Also showed that those kind of post ups aren't Dak's game either. It was a bad pass.

The story once upon a time was that Tony rode Rico on PS during 2016, and even Byron couldn't stop them. Tony was also a point guard once upon a time. Maybe that gave him and Rico extra chemistry for a two man game. Tony knew how to use Rico probably better than any of the coaches. Tony gone, nobody knows what to do with a basketball player. Dak sure doesn't, and that's not knocking him. It's not his job to figure that one out.

Learning to block, and adding in some short yardage routes was always the most direct path for Rico having a career in the NFL.

Maybe those stories about Tony and Rico being unstoppable on the PS were true. Maybe Rico has receiving skills that *some* QB could use. But that guy isn't Dak. Once Tony was gone, our post up and placement was gone. Rico is *never* going to be the kind of separation receiver that Dak will be eager to target.

But he could get on the field and put his strength and length advantages to use and, as Hudson Houck once said, just hit somebody.

Very nice breakdown.

 

[xwalker]

Rico's pretty much done here. If his crappy on-field play and Witt returning didn't do him in, an arrest probably will.

Although in his defense, I will say that the offensive staff did him a disservice by trying to teach him how to block in any way, shape or form. You're starting with an 8th grade level player technique-wise, you're never going to make him into a well-rounded Y tight end. Just have him run downfield and grab the rebound from the safety.

Maybe Rico never had it as a receiver (his jump ball attempt vs Tennessee was pretty pitiful), but trying to bulk up a basketball player and make him a blocker just screams of Garrett taking a square peg and trying to put it into his system's round hole. Just like how we never threw to Zeke for two and a half seasons, just like how we parked a dominant press-man corner as a deep zone FS, just like how we made a great zone-blocking line switch to a power scheme they struggled in, just like how we kept running 3 TE sets with the worst starting 3 TEs in football. The coaches have a scheme in mind and they're going to execute it, talent on the field be damned.

They did "bulk him up". He was one of if not the biggest TE in the NFL from day 1 and by the time he got to training camp as a rookie he was at 290.

He reported lost weight prior to 2018 to get down around 260.

His actual blocking is fine. The problem for him has been knowing which player to block.

He has progressed at about the rate most NFL coaches would expect. Fans judge him on the normal expectations for draft picks but he was by definition going to take a couple of extra years to develop as compared to players that played college football.

The 1st two years were his replacement for college and 2018 was basically equal to his rookie year because it's the 1st time he played in real (not preseason) games.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Why bring up old news, unless there is an agenda against wanting to keep Rico?

This public arrest happened last year before the 2018 season started. Rico has learned his lesson and done his part to comply with the judge's demands. Way past time to move on. He's on the Cowboys because the Cowboys see some value in him.

 

[America's Cowboy]

As Jimmy Johnson told Bill Belichick on his boat in the Keys, "hit me in the head with a hammer the next time I take a dumb guy."

Jimmy was dumb by not letting Jerry have credit for those early 90s SB teams, hence why Jerry gave Jimmy the boot. Never bite the hand that feeds you. That's what Belichick should have told Jimmy.

 

[buybuydandavis]

A guy that lumbers when he runs and bad routes as it is is going to run slower with 20 extra pounds on, not faster.....he's done developing, he is what he is......a basketball player who clearly can't play Football at the NFL level!

A guy who is already a lumbering long strider isn't losing anything he can make an nfl career of by putting on more weight, but he may gain the ability to be a useful blocker.

The same thing with Escobar, who was a more polished receiver than Rico will ever be. If he had put on enough weight to be a good blocker, he'd have an NFL career as a blocking TE who is very useful as a dual threat.

Don't let Escobar happen to you, Rico!

Focus on blocking. And don't give up on your development. Most rookies come into the league with a good 6 years of football experience. And unless they're top round picks, they are expected to need a couple more years to develop into NFL players. You've got one full season, and two training camps. And you were already playing NFL level football last year. You've gotten over the hump. Keep on plugging.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Jimmy was dumb by not letting Jerry have credit for those early 90s SB teams, hence why Jerry gave Jimmy the boot. Never bite the hand that feeds you. That's what Belichick should have told Jimmy.

Should have told Jimmy to no let pride screw up a good thing. Should have gone both ways with Jerry and Jimmy.

4peat down the drain.