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Dak and his legs

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by sjmike, Jan 15, 2022.

  1. baltcowboy

    baltcowboy Well-Known Member

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    Plus Dak seems to play better when he runs the football. I expect some read option plays. Dak just needs to get a few yards and get down!!!!!
  2. SSoup

    SSoup Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what you were watching in September and October, but he was functioning pretty much as a pure pocket passer in the first 6 weeks of the season when the offense was so on fire. Dak had 22 rushes in the first 6 games, about 3 per game (3.66 to be exact). That's what you call "using his legs" a bunch and "opening it up" to put pressure on the defense as a running QB? 3 and a half rushes per game?

    For reference, Tom Brady and Drew Bledsoe averaged 2.08 and 1.99 rushes per game over the life of their careers. Vinny Testaverde averaged 2 per game. Troy Aikman averaged 1.98 rushes per game. That's basically the baseline for what an absolutely immobile statue of a QB can be expected to do, is average 2 rushes per game. (For what it's worth, rushes per game isn't a metric of athleticism. Tony Romo averaged fewer rushes per game than Brady and Bledsoe and Aikman. But we all know first-hand from watching his entire career that he was quite athletic and moved around quite well. Romo could scramble much more deftly than Troy or Bledsoe, yet he averaged fewer rushes per gam than either of them. He tended to use his mobility to escape the rush while still remaining in the backfield and keeping his eyes upfield, intending to salvage the play with a pass instead of with a run.)

    What do actual running QBs do when it comes to rushes per game? Well, Josh Allen averages about 7 rushes per game in his career. Tyrod Taylor averages about 7 per start also in his career. Vick rushed 7.5 times per start. Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts rush about 10 times per game. That's what actual running QB's rushing output looks like. Statistically, Dak has never actually been a running QB. Never even sniffed that kind of rushes-per-game output, even in his one extreme outlier season (when his rush attempts per game stat ballooned by 1 rush per game, likely a result of him running for his life more often as his o-line's pass protection declined). He's more mobile than a statue, sure, but he's never been a full-on running QB.

    But back to this year and the claim that Dak was using his legs and opening it up a bunch more earlier in the year. In the first 6 games this year, Dak ran 22 times. But a full 5 of those were kneel-downs, so that obviously deflates the number from 3.6 rushes per game to 2.8 per game.

    It is true that his rushes per game dropped off in the 10 games since the calf injury. But I'm not sure how much that has to do with his injury or his willingness to run. Realistically, I think the drop in runs can almost entirely be accounted for by the reduction in kneel-down duties during that stretch.

    The team went 6-4 in those 10 games, so right away that's 4 losses where we couldn't possibly have knelt down at the end of games. And of the 6 wins, 3 of them were massive blowouts that led to Cooper Rush swooping in to mop things up and handle the kneel-downs. Cooper Rush has 9 rushing attempts this year, and 8 of them are kneel-downs that came during our blowout wins in the 2nd half of the season.

    If you added those 8 kneel-downs to Dak's rushing total since his return from the calf injury, then his rushes per game average would be 3.4 (only a hair lower than the 3.6 average he had earlier in the year or the 3.6 average he has in his career).

    It's really just the fluke of him not getting kneel-downs that made his rushing attempt numbers look like they took a tumble.
  3. Blast From The Past

    Blast From The Past Well-Known Member

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    As long as he is confident and not tentative in doing so.
  4. blueblood70

    blueblood70 Well-Known Member

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    maybe true but he hesitated to run many times for an easy 5-7 yards for first downs, he won't be doing that in the p;ayoffs, thats the point. he will take every on if those open opportunities to run especially for 1st downs.
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  5. Mr_437

    Mr_437 Well-Known Member

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    Dak is much better when he's not hesitant to run, we need dual threat Dak back.
  6. mattjames2010

    mattjames2010 Well-Known Member

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    He's too heavy footed to be much of a runner. People have been begging for more runs - he's not a statue and he can take off if there is a big lane in front of him, but designed runs aren't his thing.
  7. RonnieT24

    RonnieT24 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think the Coyws ran a lot of RPOs in the first 6 games.. They were protecting Dak from himself almost the entire season.. If they had been running any semblance or RPO they would have exposed a guy coming off a 10 month injury to more injury.. Other than goal line situations Dak did next to no running..
  8. Seven

    Seven Messenger to the football Gods

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  9. stuckindc

    stuckindc Well-Known Member

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    I hope..I especially like when he runs in the redzone..those type of runs are crushing to defenses
  10. stuckindc

    stuckindc Well-Known Member

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    "Magic Leggs "
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  11. PhillyCowboysFan

    PhillyCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Did he really say this???
  12. AyeAtey

    AyeAtey Well-Known Member

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    Playoffs...The team and individuals must use ALL assets, skills, talent, etc. given or available!

    Stakes are just too high.
  13. nightrain

    nightrain Since 1971

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    No one should be holding anything back in this one. Dak will be all in for sure.
  14. Awakened

    Awakened the Dude abides

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    Those who say Dak can’t run are understating his power as a runner. He’s a load.
  15. Hawkeye19

    Hawkeye19 Well-Known Member

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    Yah… definitely lost some quickness and burst. He should only run when a sea of green is in front of him. Effective and efficient scrambling will be a good thing for the offense— but designed runs not so much.

    Would prefer Pollard to get the bulk of the carries
  16. StylisticS

    StylisticS Well-Known Member

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    We have seen him run well even in the playoffs before. He leaned on more of his physicality than his actual speed. We don't need him to be fast. Just smart. 2nd and 2 is better than 2nd and 10 if nothing is there.
  17. Blackrain

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    I started a thread about this 2 days ago but it was deleted because of one word about a certain sickness.

    That said I had basically said that DAK needed to use his legs whenever it was safe and he could get 5 to 8 yards and get out of bounds or slide down.

    This would give the 49ers something they hadn't seen and keep their defense honest. Dak is plenty smart enough to see when he has 10 or 15 yards of open field in front of him. He has to start taking it when it's there because the 49ers can't cover everybody and he is going to get opportunities.

    Dak flat out has to use everything in his skill set to keep the chains moving like he used to there is no tomorrow
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  18. quickccc

    quickccc Well-Known Member

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    Good , we don't need him running with the football ... we need him to be smart .. run smart ... play smart ... not wrestling and taking on incoming tacklers and trying to stiff arm and
    physically fend off

    ... use that mobility to scramble away from rushers and tacklers to either run upfield and slide ... or run out of bounds ... get Dak outta that mentality that he needs to be an extra RB .
    don''t design run plays or RPO's that's asking him to run like a RB - that invites a take on mentality ...and that invites another cracked ankle,... a broken arm, ...an ACL tear .
    ..and designed plays that's not neccessary to have to grimace and endure ..
  19. sjmike

    sjmike Well-Known Member

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