Dak is good enough to win a Super Bowl--is Garrett?

StarOfGlory

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Yes, this old college linebacker who is now 25 pounds overweight said it. Here is why I believe so even is Dak is or is not the best QB in our division (heck, at this point it might be Foles).

The NFL and the NBA have something in common with wanting to create more offense over the years, and that is using analytics the way MLB has done. Ironically, the impact has been far greater in the NBA and NFL than MLB.

The key is creating ways to more efficiently create offense. It took a while for coaches in the NBA to break tradition, but the 3 point shot is simply more efficient than the 2 point shot. This realization have virtually made the lumbering big post players who sucked on offense obsolete in today's NBA. Even post players who were offensively elite in college are useless--see Jahlil Okafor for a great example. Why is this? Because with the emphasis on perimeter play, "bigs" have to be able to switch cleanly and effectively while playing defense away from the basket. Coaches scheme this way. The few teams that are holdouts, such as Memphis, have no shot of going deep into the playoffs. Teams with individual outlier players like the 76ers with Embiid can play both ways, and in a way they are the only team who can play the game from the inside out today in the NBA with any degree of success. For most teams, it doesn't make sense to play any other way. If you don't have 3 point shooters, you aren't winning in today's NBA.

How has this happened in the NFL? There have always been coaches with a unique twist on schemes--Bill Walsh on offense, Buddy Ryan on defense--but variations of the West Coast offense have proven to be the most efficient way for most teams to move the ball. Fans wanted to see more action within the football games. Pass minded coaches like Sid Gillman, Don Coryell, and Bill Walsh won championships with passing offenses. What I believe caught the attention of many observers was that Walsh's offensive philosophy was unlike previous air attacks that threw only in long-yardage situations or to surprise the opponent.

Why was Walsh so successful? He was lucky enough have a smart QB who was also accurate by the standards of his day. Walsh identified something: a strong, inaccurate arm that throws long incompletions accomplishes nothing (see Jeff George, Jay Cutler, etc.). The most important component of a QB's arsenal is the ability to accurately deliver short passes in the 5-15 yard range to WR's and RB's.

Dak doesn't have the strongest arm for sure, but he has become very accurate. He also has a running game to support him. An accurate passer in that 5-15 yard range plus a RB that can move the chains can win most games on any day with the proper scheme. And that is the kicker...

Who creates the schemes? The coaching staff, and the lead role is taken by the head coach. We don't have Bill Bellicheat, Bill Walsh, Sean Payton, or even Andy Reid. We have Jason Garrett. Garrett has one of the most accurate QB's in the NFL. He has one of the best, if not the best, RB in the NFL. He has a certifiable weapon in Cooper. The defense is very good; when healthy, the o-line is top three in the NFL.

We just watched in two weeks a Philadelphia team led by Nick Foles rip apart the Rams and Texans defenses with a worse running game, o-line, and defense. That team looks like they can beat anyone in the league right now, and are not as good as we are.

If Garrett can't get it done by next year, he must go. Period.
 

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Yes, this old college linebacker who is now 25 pounds overweight said it. Here is why I believe so even is Dak is or is not the best QB in our division (heck, at this point it might be Foles).

The NFL and the NBA have something in common with wanting to create more offense over the years, and that is using analytics the way MLB has done. Ironically, the impact has been far greater in the NBA and NFL than MLB.

The key is creating ways to more efficiently create offense. It took a while for coaches in the NBA to break tradition, but the 3 point shot is simply more efficient than the 2 point shot. This realization have virtually made the lumbering big post players who sucked on offense obsolete in today's NBA. Even post players who were offensively elite in college are useless--see Jahlil Okafor for a great example. Why is this? Because with the emphasis on perimeter play, "bigs" have to be able to switch cleanly and effectively while playing defense away from the basket. Coaches scheme this way. The few teams that are holdouts, such as Memphis, have no shot of going deep into the playoffs. Teams with individual outlier players like the 76ers with Embiid can play both ways, and in a way they are the only team who can play the game from the inside out today in the NBA with any degree of success. For most teams, it doesn't make sense to play any other way. If you don't have 3 point shooters, you aren't winning in today's NBA.

How has this happened in the NFL? There have always been coaches with a unique twist on schemes--Bill Walsh on offense, Buddy Ryan on defense--but variations of the West Coast offense have proven to be the most efficient way for most teams to move the ball. Fans wanted to see more action within the football games. Pass minded coaches like Sid Gillman, Don Coryell, and Bill Walsh won championships with passing offenses. What I believe caught the attention of many observers was that Walsh's offensive philosophy was unlike previous air attacks that threw only in long-yardage situations or to surprise the opponent.

Why was Walsh so successful? He was lucky enough have a smart QB who was also accurate by the standards of his day. Walsh identified something: a strong, inaccurate arm that throws long incompletions accomplishes nothing (see Jeff George, Jay Cutler, etc.). The most important component of a QB's arsenal is the ability to accurately deliver short passes in the 5-15 yard range to WR's and RB's.

Dak doesn't have the strongest arm for sure, but he has become very accurate. He also has a running game to support him. An accurate passer in that 5-15 yard range plus a RB that can move the chains can win most games on any day with the proper scheme. And that is the kicker...

Who creates the schemes? The coaching staff, and the lead role is taken by the head coach. We don't have Bill Bellicheat, Bill Walsh, Sean Payton, or even Andy Reid. We have Jason Garrett. Garrett has one of the most accurate QB's in the NFL. He has one of the best, if not the best, RB in the NFL. He has a certifiable weapon in Cooper. The defense is very good; when healthy, the o-line is top three in the NFL.

We just watched in two weeks a Philadelphia team led by Nick Foles rip apart the Rams and Texans defenses with a worse running game, o-line, and defense. That team looks like they can beat anyone in the league right now, and are not as good as we are.

If Garrett can't get it done by next year, he must go. Period.
Well done.

Dak has shown that he's quite adept at throwing those short/mid passes. And instead of forming an O around his skillset, we're insisting that he run an O geared toward a Troy Aikman type.

It's Linehan that needs to go. We need a guy who will put the cross and the slant back in our game. We need a guy who can scheme guys open. The scheme that has our receivers "run toward the DB and turn around" needs to go the way of the dinosaurs. (Cooper's words)
 

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Dak’s not the most accurate passer but he doesn’t take many chances with the ball. Hence the low INT totals and modest passing numbers. Zeke has 77 catches this year.

As long as the D is good enough, that’s just fine. The goal is to win football games, not fantasy football titles.

Win the turnover battle and score TDs in the redzone. If we do that, we can beat anyone.
 

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I thought this was a real question for a minute there........turkey overload I guess.
 

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Well for starters in his 3rd year he has won a lot more games than your god Tony Romo. He will also be taking the Dallas Cowboys to a second playoff appearance in 3 years, something this team never did under Tony Romo.

Romo in his first 3 years starting had back to back playoff appearances - what are you talking about? He missed the playoffs once his first 4 years as starter.

You don’t even know what you’re talking about.
 

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Well for starters in his 3rd year he has won a lot more games than your god Tony Romo. He will also be taking the Dallas Cowboys to a second playoff appearance in 3 years, something this team never did under Tony Romo.
2006 playoffs
2007 playoffs
2009 playoffs

I knew you were dumb when you said "god Tony Romo" then you doubled down
 

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Yes, this old college linebacker who is now 25 pounds overweight said it. Here is why I believe so even is Dak is or is not the best QB in our division (heck, at this point it might be Foles).

The NFL and the NBA have something in common with wanting to create more offense over the years, and that is using analytics the way MLB has done. Ironically, the impact has been far greater in the NBA and NFL than MLB.

The key is creating ways to more efficiently create offense. It took a while for coaches in the NBA to break tradition, but the 3 point shot is simply more efficient than the 2 point shot. This realization have virtually made the lumbering big post players who sucked on offense obsolete in today's NBA. Even post players who were offensively elite in college are useless--see Jahlil Okafor for a great example. Why is this? Because with the emphasis on perimeter play, "bigs" have to be able to switch cleanly and effectively while playing defense away from the basket. Coaches scheme this way. The few teams that are holdouts, such as Memphis, have no shot of going deep into the playoffs. Teams with individual outlier players like the 76ers with Embiid can play both ways, and in a way they are the only team who can play the game from the inside out today in the NBA with any degree of success. For most teams, it doesn't make sense to play any other way. If you don't have 3 point shooters, you aren't winning in today's NBA.

How has this happened in the NFL? There have always been coaches with a unique twist on schemes--Bill Walsh on offense, Buddy Ryan on defense--but variations of the West Coast offense have proven to be the most efficient way for most teams to move the ball. Fans wanted to see more action within the football games. Pass minded coaches like Sid Gillman, Don Coryell, and Bill Walsh won championships with passing offenses. What I believe caught the attention of many observers was that Walsh's offensive philosophy was unlike previous air attacks that threw only in long-yardage situations or to surprise the opponent.

Why was Walsh so successful? He was lucky enough have a smart QB who was also accurate by the standards of his day. Walsh identified something: a strong, inaccurate arm that throws long incompletions accomplishes nothing (see Jeff George, Jay Cutler, etc.). The most important component of a QB's arsenal is the ability to accurately deliver short passes in the 5-15 yard range to WR's and RB's.

Dak doesn't have the strongest arm for sure, but he has become very accurate. He also has a running game to support him. An accurate passer in that 5-15 yard range plus a RB that can move the chains can win most games on any day with the proper scheme. And that is the kicker...

Who creates the schemes? The coaching staff, and the lead role is taken by the head coach. We don't have Bill Bellicheat, Bill Walsh, Sean Payton, or even Andy Reid. We have Jason Garrett. Garrett has one of the most accurate QB's in the NFL. He has one of the best, if not the best, RB in the NFL. He has a certifiable weapon in Cooper. The defense is very good; when healthy, the o-line is top three in the NFL.

We just watched in two weeks a Philadelphia team led by Nick Foles rip apart the Rams and Texans defenses with a worse running game, o-line, and defense. That team looks like they can beat anyone in the league right now, and are not as good as we are.

If Garrett can't get it done by next year, he must go. Period.

If you think the Oline is top 3 in the NFL then you simply aren't watching the games. You must still be stuck in 2016. AND because of that, Dak has been less then accurate overall. I agree with the scheme part and Garrett, but this Oline is one of the leaders in penalties, #31 in pass blocking and #31 in sacks and pressure on the QB.

Fix that Oline and everything you said would be right on the money.
 

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There are probably 20 qbs that ARE good enough... but only 5 or so will actually win one.
 

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Garrett? Good enough to win a super bowl?

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