Dak is the only reason the Cowboys have had a chance

[TheMarathonContinues]

Real lucky!!!

Post of the day

 

[kskboys]

Not disputing your post but it seems the only reason we could point to the fact that the Cowboys would not have a chance without Dak is the same reason we could point to the Cowboys only having a chance because of Romo...

We consistently, year after year do not have a defense that can hold teams to under 20 points. Here and there we have some sparks of a defense but then it folds when it counts. Most of the time they have just been bad!!

Uhoh, you have now raised Rocky's ire, you are now a troll and an Egirls fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Pass2Run]

Yeah I've tried to give that poster every chance to have reasonable discussions, but hes shown to be the ultimate troll. Starting a bait thread like this without replying to anything pretty much shows the intention behind it.

But isn't he kind of right?

 

[thunderpimp91]

But isn't he kind of right?

In what way?

In that the cowboys have failed to field a complete team over the last decade? Sure I’d buy into that with maybe one exception where this team was really really good.

In that Dak has been the only reason the cowboys have contended over the last decade? Nope, that’s a joke.

 

[kskboys]

But isn't he kind of right?

In the midst of his incessant attacks and insults and miserable posts and threads, it doesn't matter. You can't act as he does and get any credence whatsoever. Or respect. When you are constantly disrespecful to others, that is what you will get in return.

 

[RonnieT24]

In what way?

In that the cowboys have failed to field a complete team over the last decade? Sure I’d buy into that with maybe one exception where this team was really really good.

In that Dak has been the only reason the cowboys have contended over the last decade? Nope, that’s a joke.

Absolutely.. First of all the Cowboys have not contended for anything and secondly there is no one player who is "the only reason" for anything. Football is the ultimate team game and the QB is far and away the most important player on the team. But no, no player ever won or lost a game all by his lonesome so I pretty much reject that entire premise.

 

[Captain-Crash]

The teams were so bad, even Rush could have a combined record of 9-5, but he is elite.

 

[DandyDon1722]

So with Romo it was everybody else who messed up. But with Dak, it is Dak choking?

And like I said lots of assumptions on your part, too many if, then, else's. You are a Romosexual and will defend him to no end, as far as analyzing play by play to blame someone else.

2-4 in playoffs.

8-3 playoff record with 8TDs and 3 INTs with a 93.5 playoff QBR and played a perfect Divisional game that was taken from him on a play that today is a TD.

Lastly that “choker” led the league in comebacks and clutch rating at the time of his retirement.

I mean how come I know all this and you don’t - especially if you passive aggressively invite excuses. It’s a bad look.

Anyhow - Doesn’t matter everybody’s been through the Romo wars and most get it - some still don’t but at least you know more today than you did yesterday.

 

[Captain-Crash]

8-3 playoff record with 8TDs and 3 INTs with a 93.5 playoff QBR and played a perfect Divisional game that was taken from him on a play that today is a TD.

Lastly that “choker” led the league in comebacks and clutch rating at the time of his retirement.

I mean how come I know all this and you don’t - especially if you passive aggressively invite excuses. It’s a bad look.

Anyhow - Doesn’t matter everybody’s been through the Romo wars and most get it - some still don’t but at least you know more today than you did yesterday.

Don, it's pretty simple they hate Romo and hope and pray that dak can do better so they can throw off on him. smh..

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

8-3 playoff record with 8TDs and 3 INTs with a 93.5 playoff QBR and played a perfect Divisional game that was taken from him on a play that today is a TD.

Lastly that “choker” led the league in comebacks and clutch rating at the time of his retirement.

I mean how come I know all this and you don’t - especially if you passive aggressively invite excuses. It’s a bad look.

Anyhow - Doesn’t matter everybody’s been through the Romo wars and most get it - some still don’t but at least you know more today than you did yesterday.

Wait. You drunk? Who is 8-3 in playoffs? When did that happen.

And I think you need to go speak with the Hate Dak cult members. Perhaps the board of directors. Because all I hear is playoff record playoff record playoff record...

Next time ask their permission to diss playoff record. Fact is Romo.was 2-4 in the playoffs. And fumbled the ball in Seattle for a simple kick hold.


Sorry to inform you...but you will never ever know more than I do. Not even close..

 

[Rockport]

In what way?

In that the cowboys have failed to field a complete team over the last decade? Sure I’d buy into that with maybe one exception where this team was really really good.

In that Dak has been the only reason the cowboys have contended over the last decade? Nope, that’s a joke.

In your opinion. Instead of insulting me, why do you think the team has had an 80-51-1 record since Dak’s been the starter? Good defense? Great WR’s? They had a great RB in Zeke but not much else. So again, instead of insults, tell us how they accomplished that record.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Wait. You drunk? Who is 8-3 in playoffs? When did that happen.

And I think you need to go speak with the Hate Dak cult members. Perhaps the board of directors. Because all I hear is playoff record playoff record playoff record...

Next time ask their permission to diss playoff record. Fact is Romo.was 2-4 in the playoffs. And fumbled the ball in Seattle for a simple kick hold.


Sorry to inform you...but you will never ever know more than I do. Not even close..

2-4 playoff record - my bad. It was 8-3 TDS to INTS.

See how easy it is to admit that you are wrong? I was wrong.

 

[thunderpimp91]

In your opinion. Instead of insulting me, why do you think the team has had an 80-51-1 record since Dak’s been the starter? Good defense? Great WR’s? They had a great RB in Zeke but not much else. So again, instead of insults, tell us how they accomplished that record.

Your attempt to play victim is pretty funny but I’ll give it a quick try to at least hit the easy points….

1) the recent 12 win seasons featured legitimate top 10 defensive units.
2) not great WRs early in daks career but has had plus players such as cooper/gallup (pre injury)/lamb/ now Pickens.
3) got the prime years of 2 ( maybe 1.5 due to injuries) future HOF OL players


Now id love to hear how cooper rush won at such a high rate on such a pathetic team that gave its qb no help.

 

[RonnieT24]

2-4 playoff record - my bad. It was 8-3 TDS to INTS.

See how easy it is to admit that you are wrong? I was wrong.

I don't understand why it's so hard to admit that both Dak and Romo have been let down by their teammates. Though I think we can safely state that Dak has had the worst of it.

Romo's playoff losses came with the other team scoring 21, 21, 34 and 26. A 25.5 average.
In those games the offense scored 19, 17, 3 and 21. A 15.0 average
Dak's playoff losses came with the other team scoring 34, 30, 23, 19 and 49. A 31 .0 average.
In those games the offense scored 31, 23, 17, 12 and 32. A 23.0 Average.

We can argue all day about who was the better QB but there can be no argument as to who was backed by the better defenses. Dak's offenses have scored 8 more points in the losses than did Romo's and the defense has given up 5.5 more points. One might argue that Dak's teams would have two more wins if they had Romo's defenses. But obviously that's all water under the bridge. Hopefully Dak has a few more playoff runs to rewrite the narrative on his career. Let's hope his body don't give out like Romo's did. I think he takes better care of his body in general than Romo so I think there's a good chance of that.

 

[RonnieT24]

Your attempt to play victim is pretty funny but I’ll give it a quick try to at least hit the easy points….

1) the recent 12 win seasons featured legitimate top 10 defensive units.
2) not great WRs early in daks career but has had plus players such as cooper/gallup (pre injury)/lamb/ now Pickens.
3) got the prime years of 2 ( maybe 1.5 due to injuries) future HOF OL players


Now id love to hear how cooper rush won at such a high rate on such a pathetic team that gave its qb no help.

I still don't think they were "legitimate top 10 defensive units." They gave up 42 points to Green Bay. They gave up ~170 yards rushing to the 49ers in the 2021 meeting. Those things do not happen to "legitimate top 10" defenses. I think most would agree that they were somewhat fraudulent in that they needed the offense to stake them to a lead so they could rush the passer and force turnovers. When the game didn't go that way they generally didn't hold up.

As for that last part? The answer is simple. Cooper Rush won games in 2021 and 2022 because he got to play in a small enough sampling of games that he didn't get exposed. When asked to play more than a smattering of games in 2024 he got exposed. To the tune of 3 games scoring 10 or fewer points and 20 or fewer in 5 of 8 starts. Rush is a classic backup who can steal you a couple of wins in small doses but when asked to start and allow teams to study and game plan for him he gets exposed. It's not his fault.. that's who he is.. But he passed for like 150 yards a game last season. You aint winnin a whole lot of games in the modern NFL doin that. Especially not when paired with a bottom 2 or 3 defense.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I still don't think they were "legitimate top 10 defensive units." They gave up 42 points to Green Bay. They gave up ~170 yards rushing to the 49ers in the 2021 meeting. Those things do not happen to "legitimate top 10" defenses. I think most would agree that they were somewhat fraudulent in that they needed the offense to stake them to a lead so they could rush the passer and force turnovers. When the game didn't go that way they generally didn't hold up.

As for that last part? The answer is simple. Cooper Rush won games in 2021 and 2022 because he got to play in a small enough sampling of games that he didn't get exposed. When asked to play more than a smattering of games in 2024 he got exposed. To the tune of 3 games scoring 10 or fewer points and 20 or fewer in 5 of 8 starts. Rush is a classic backup who can steal you a couple of wins in small doses but when asked to start and allow teams to study and game plan for him he gets exposed. It's not his fault.. that's who he is.. But he passed for like 150 yards a game last season. You aint winnin a whole lot of games in the modern NFL doin that. Especially not when paired with a bottom 2 or 3 defense.

They were still statistically top 10 units those years and rock is going off of regular season data.

The defense playing well in the regular season is a major reason why we won 36 games in 3 seasons. Is there a complementary piece to that? Absolutely, but it doesn’t take away from the fact that the cowboys received several excellent defensive performances during that stretch.

I completely agree that the front office failed to really take advantage of some of the plus players they had on defense during these years to make a truly dominant defense but it didn’t completely diminish their regular season contributions.

During those 12 win years it was pretty much a given that if the defense allowed 20 points or less we won the games. 21 or more and we would lose with just a couple exceptions where the offense truly dominated like the Seattle game a couple years ago.

 

[G2]

It's the same thing as saying "All the losses are Prescott's fault."

We have to stop the silliness.

 

[Rockport]

Your attempt to play victim is pretty funny but I’ll give it a quick try to at least hit the easy points….

1) the recent 12 win seasons featured legitimate top 10 defensive units.
2) not great WRs early in daks career but has had plus players such as cooper/gallup (pre injury)/lamb/ now Pickens.
3) got the prime years of 2 ( maybe 1.5 due to injuries) future HOF OL players


Now id love to hear how cooper rush won at such a high rate on such a pathetic team that gave its qb no help.

I quit reading after #1. Almost fell off my chair.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

2-4 playoff record - my bad. It was 8-3 TDS to INTS.

See how easy it is to admit that you are wrong? I was wrong.

And final results suck for both.

But I do agree. Dak has underwhelmed in playoffs.

One common thread we all agree on is the one co stant screwing it up and that's Jerry Jones.

We will never win a superbowl while Jerry is the GM or the owner. He just doesn't care enough to accomplish that

 

[Johannes44]

The Dak first crowd will always say that he came up short because of xyz limitation of the team. Without ever acknowledging that he contributed into them coming up short. If it isn't the OLine needs more first rounders then it's he needs more receivers etc etc. This offseason it will be more of the same. He needs more and more.