Dak Prescott is the only QB with more yards lost to drops than to missed throws

Cowboys5217 said:
Brees made it to an NFC title game during his first 10 years.

You guys have to stop comparing Dak to real QBs. It's poor form when you ignore the playoff aspect of it. It makes you look stupid.
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I'm not saying he's better than Brees, just that he's closer to Brees than he is to Cousins, which is a silly comparison but sillys on this board is all over that stupidity.

Dak never had a team as good as that 2009 Saints team. 2016 is the closest but even then the Patriots and the surging Falcons were probably even better. The Saints in 2009 could've been defeated by only the Vikings and the Colts. As we saw of the 2016 Cowboys team, they were defeated by the 5 seed so it obviously wasn't as good.
 
SteveTheCowboy said:
"plenty of examples" but you can;t give me one or so.

You don't see how stupid that sounds.

You OBVIOUSLY care...or we wouldn't be doing <this>. Yet another stupid thing.

I already told everyone I'm a loudmouthed emotional guy. You're late to the party, mister.
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Sick burn
 
Captain-Crash said:
don't forget feelings
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There is a reason that Dak fears his fans. ;)

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RonnieT24 said:
I think the injury and the recovery from it allowed Dak two advantages.. One is he got to sit and watch for 9 games and two he got to work on his lower body more than he probably usually does. Not just squats and leg presses but flexibility, footwork, running all of it. I think he only paid lip service to his lower body prior to last offseason. When he came out of college his lower body was already beastly and then after the dislocated ankle in 2020 he had to baby it. The hammie got his lower body back on point and the results was he was faster and stronger below the waist than he was at any point since 2020 this year.
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I thought he looked much more composed than he has in the past. Maybe sitting on the sideline and watching someone else have a go at it helped him.
 
Creeper said:
I thought he looked much more composed than he has in the past. Maybe sitting on the sideline and watching someone else have a go at it helped him.
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Yeah I definitely think the time as the assistant to the assistant to the assistant OC helped his understanding of the game quite a bit. Then the ability to come back and put what he learned into practice was great. But I absolutely believe the ability to watch the game from the sidelines then to watch film of the same game was a big boost for Dak. Now if he could just learn to cover a receiver or rush the passer this team is going to go places.
 
RonnieT24 said:
Yeah I definitely think the time as the assistant to the assistant to the assistant OC helped his understanding of the game quite a bit. Then the ability to come back and put what he learned into practice was great. But I absolutely believe the ability to watch the game from the sidelines then to watch film of the same game was a big boost for Dak. Now if he could just learn to cover a receiver or rush the passer this team is going to go places.
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You thought this bold was clever, huh? smh
 
Yobwocs said:
I'm not saying he's better than Brees, just that he's closer to Brees than he is to Cousins, which is a silly comparison but sillys on this board is all over that stupidity.

Dak never had a team as good as that 2009 Saints team. 2016 is the closest but even then the Patriots and the surging Falcons were probably even better. The Saints in 2009 could've been defeated by only the Vikings and the Colts. As we saw of the 2016 Cowboys team, they were defeated by the 5 seed so it obviously wasn't as good.
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Dak is way closer to Cousins than he is to Brees, which is one of the major reasons that 2009 Saints Team won the Super Bowl while the 2016 Cowboys team got flushed in their first game

the 2009 Saints team was 20th ranked in scoring defense and 25th ranked defensively in yards allowed.
the 2016 Cowboys team was 5th ranked in scoring defense and 14th in yards allowed.

And the 2016 Cowboys had the league's leading rusher.

But because the 2016 Cowboys lost to the Packers, they weren't as good as the 2009 Saints across the board?
The huge difference in QB play had zero to do with it??

:laugh: Good grief.....
 
BoysForLife said:
Dak is way closer to Cousins than he is to Brees, which is one of the major reasons that 2009 Saints Team won the Super Bowl while the 2016 Cowboys team got flushed in their first game

the 2009 Saints team was 20th ranked in scoring defense and 25th ranked defensively in yards allowed.
the 2016 Cowboys team was 5th ranked in scoring defense and 14th in yards allowed.

And the 2016 Cowboys had the league's leading rusher.

But because the 2016 Cowboys lost to the Packers, they weren't as good as the 2009 Saints across the board?
The huge difference in QB play had zero to do with it??

:laugh: Good grief.....
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I thought stats don't matter.... according to you and your buddies.

If stats matter, then Dak dominates everything. He has the most 4000 yard and 30 touchdown seasons recently. It's obvious that Jerry and the Cowboys aren't built for the big moment is the main reason they cant do anything in the postseason despite having the finest stats QB of our generation. I'm just going by your team stats rankings.... do stats matter or not?

'09 Saints was easily the best team in the NFL. They held Peyton Manning in check. Cowboys gave up 51 the last time they played Peyton Manning, so there is a stark contrast between Payton's Saints and the Garrett Cowboys of 2016.
 
RonnieT24 said:
I think that might apply to the guys he's throwing to as well right? Dak had second highest on target throw percentage in the league this year behind Nix. That means he put the ball where it was supposed to be more often than every other QB in the league except one. I don't know what else you can ask of your QB aside from putting the damn ball on the money. Run more? Maybe? I guess but QBs who run a lot get hurt a lot. And this team scores like 14 points a game less when Dak has been hurt. So those 35-28 losses turn into 35-14? Or worse. No thanks..
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Who decides what the "put the ball right where it is supposed to be" is? Is this like the fake "strike zone" in pro baseball? And what if it's wobbly? Everyone bashes Joe for too much velocity...does that count too?

I'm not saying Dak does or doesn't do that so calm down.

I'm just asking WHO...decides?
 

Yobwocs said:
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This is false information. If you made this then shame on you and if you didn't make it, you need to confirm stuff before posting.

I will post the correct stats comparison when I get home but just a quick check shows that whoever counted Brees first "10" seasons are counting his rookie year where he played only 1 partial game.

If you skip that year and start in 2002, his first full year played, his stats are higher and not the same as shown above. For example he has 280 touchdowns not 235. And that is not counting playoffs.
 
SpaceCowboy99 said:
This is false information. If you made this then shame on you and if you didn't make it, you need to confirm stuff before posting.

I will post the correct stats comparison when I get home but just a quick check shows that whoever counted Brees first "10" seasons are counting his rookie year where he played only 1 partial game.

If you skip that year and start in 2002, his first full year played, his stats are higher and not the same as shown above. For example he has 280 touchdowns not 235. And that is not counting playoffs.
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Are you dyslexic?

The graphic even puts the amount of games they played.... 139 Dak vs 138 Brees. Yes Brees didn't play his rookie year, but he's been injured less than Dak so overall they wind up having approximately the same amount of games played.
 
Yobwocs said:
I thought stats don't matter.... according to you and your buddies.
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You addressed literally nothing in my post. Stats don't always tell the entire story. But the stats of a defense across an entire season certainly give us a good idea of the quality of the defense. Otherwise, should we feel free to disregard the 2025 Cowboys defensive stats since defensive rankings "don't matter"??

YOU: "Brees is no better than Dak. The 09 Saints team won a Super Bowl because as a whole they were way better than Dallas across the board. The fact that the 2016 Cowboys lost to GB proves it"

ME: The 16 Cowboys had a defense ranked 20 spots higher than the 09 Saints, plus the league's leading rusher to help Dak out. How does that indicate a lesser team in total?

YOU: "Stats don't matter. Unless Dak has good stats. Then, and only then, do they matter"

You're predictable, I'll give you that.
 
BoysForLife said:
You addressed literally nothing in my post. Stats don't always tell the entire story. But the stats of a defense across an entire season certainly give us a good idea of the quality of the defense. Otherwise, should we feel free to disregard the 2025 Cowboys defensive stats since defensive rankings "don't matter"??

YOU: "Brees is no better than Dak. The 09 Saints team won a Super Bowl because as a whole they were way better than Dallas across the board. The fact that the 2016 Cowboys lost to GB proves it"

ME: The 16 Cowboys had a defense ranked 20 spots higher than the 09 Saints, plus the league's leading rusher to help Dak out. How does that indicate a lesser team in total?

YOU: "Stats don't matter. Unless Dak has good stats. Then, and only then, do they matter"

You're predictable, I'll give you that.
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speaking of being predictable, you and your Dak hating buddies think I'm equating Dak to Brees. I'm not. Brees is one of my favorite QBs of all time.

i'm just saying Dak statistically looks the part, making him closer to Brees than Cousins. what good is the 20 spots higher defense if it doesn't show up in the postseason? Saints defense did a much better job against Manning than Cowboys defense did against Rodgers. I'm not blaming that one on the defense, however - asking the defense to stop an MVP Quarterback is a tough ask, but i don't know what more you want Dak to do in that game.... he lost because Rodgers had the ball last.

Are you also one of those people who says the defense despite being garbage agaisnt Jordan Love was good in the regular season so let's go with those regular season rankings? LMAO
 
Yobwocs said:
speaking of being predictable, you and your Dak hating buddies
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I'll just keep arguing against your points, while you continue to go this route

Yobwocs said:
. what good is the 20 spots higher defense if it doesn't show up in the postseason?
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What good is a highly ranked offense if it doesn't show up in the playoffs? Well, Zeke showed up with 125 yards rushing. But Dak was pretty much absent in a big game until mid 4th quarter and by that time we were down 28-13. Then a couple of Late TDs made it look closer than it really was. An early Dak trend that persists to this day

Yobwocs said:
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Are you also one of those people who says the defense despite being garbage agaisnt Jordan Love was good in the regular season so let's go with those regular season rankings? LMAO
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I'm not sure how to respond to this. We're talking about the 2016 playoffs right? That was Rodgers, not Love. Or if you're talking about the game 2 years ago, you might want to pick a different one after Dak threw for 88 yards in the 1st half with 2 picks and spotted GB 14 1st half points in that game

Sorry for all these "hateful" facts, its just my nature I guess :laugh:
 
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