Dak vs Justin Fields

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by lk8701, May 1, 2021.

  1. 88sAndHeartbreak

    88sAndHeartbreak Well-Known Member

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    Lol I guess you missed that the Cowboys had 36 drops in 2019, which led the league.
     
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  2. 88sAndHeartbreak

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    Oh and just to let you know, he was 8th in "On target" throws in 2019. So you can guess where most of those drops I mentioned came from. Clue... it wasn't Dak.

    https://www.milehighreport.com/2021/2/11/22274403/throwing-deep-accuracy-nfl
     
  3. CowboysFaninHouston

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    OH, on the contrary I fully understand the salary cap. its a lot of folks like yourself who have thrown a hissy fit over Dak's salary, claiming we will not be able to win a superbowl without providing any legitimate argument as to why, even when they are asked to explain the reasoning behind their hissy fit.

    and like I said in previous response, you chose this silly emotional approach (not sure what you are trying to prove or accomplish with it), so now you are stuck and have to continue mentioning it in every post.....else you will look silly or if you stop, then you (nobody else) would feel like you lost because you started, tried to stick to it and then you stopped it.....so you have to choose which one is less silly. continuing it and looking silly or stopping and feeling silly.... its funny...
     
  4. CowboysFaninHouston

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    so average = good.....I guess that's the new definition of the word as the spin continues...
    btw, this is not highschool or college for you to be tested and get a grade.....you are losing it...becoming sillier by the posts
     
  5. RonnieT24

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    Apparently you do not grasp that QBR was created as an attempt to combine ALL THE METRICS.. It reportedly takes passing stats, rushing stats, poor throws vs good throws, game management, red zone performance, late game performance, ALL OF IT into consideration and that's how they arrive at the rating. I don't know what the formula they use is but that's how I have heard it described.. I also have heard dozens of analysts say Dak is a top 10 QB.. In fact the consensus take is he is on that next tier of QBs right under the 5 or 6 elites.. which is about where I have him. If you have not heard or read these opinions it's because you don't want to.. because they've literally been all over the place for the better part of two years. Even most of those who don't believe he is elite admit he is right on the cusp of it. As do I.
     
  6. CowboysFaninHouston

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    so before you said he was good and others great....and then he was average....so if in your book average=good and then good is great? you seem to be using a classroom style grading system for some reason....perhaps you are still a student in school and that's important to you.....

    nice to see you are continuing your emotional angle...... so is it sillier to continue? or sillier to stop? you are caught in between and have to decide.....which one makes you look like a bigger fool LOL....
     
  7. RonnieT24

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    Yeah unfortunately this board is overrun with anti-Dak trolls. The only reason I don't put them all on ignore is because someone has to be here to hip the newbies to their bullcrap! Otherwise any infrequent visitor here will think these idiots represent all Cowboys fans.
     
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  8. Hadenough

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  9. CowboysFaninHouston

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    LOL

    :hammer:

    I gaurantee you he is going to change the standard, from superbowl to championship game, until you mention only 4 will make it there and then he will change it to make it to the playoffs......and inevitably the loss to eagles in 2019.......LOL...just too funny.
     
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  10. RonnieT24

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    I couldn't help but notice as I read this that Dak has 16 TDs and ZERO INTs in the red zone that year.. The only people better were Jackson 24-0, Wentz, 19-0 and Goff 18-0. .. And Dak had more red zone yards than all of those three.. despite fewer attempts.. than Wentz and Goff and only 1 more attempt than Jackson. That's not bad for an "average" QB.
     
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  11. RonnieT24

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    I should also mention that Dak did this while taking his direction from a rookie OC whom most of us acknowledge has been just this side of horrible in his red zone play calling since taking over the reigns of the offense.
     
  12. 88sAndHeartbreak

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  13. CowboysFaninHouston

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    he will use a stat that suits his argument at that point in the thread. subsequently in another thread on the same subject, he will dismiss the same argument for something different. his goal is to win that specific argument with what ever made up logic, never sticking to one.

    read his other responses and subsequent squirming and explantion regarding him calling Dak good, and other great, then he called Dak average in another response to another poster, then he tried to explain why average is good, using a college grading system....I literally LOL.....
     
  14. Manwiththeplan

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    In the sense that *if* Fields develops into a QB that is just as good as Dak then sure. It in essence let's us hit the reset button on the team and closes whatever semblance of an open window we have now but allows it to be more open in 3-4 years.

    But I think that's far from a given and odds are most of the QBs taken in the first round won't be as good as Dak
     
  15. CowboysFaninHouston

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    sorry, jumping in this...you asked who besides a Dak fan says he is a top 10 QB....50 FO personnel in the NFL.....

    that was way to easy...

    and Steve007 response regarding this being an emotional response in 3.....2......1.....
     
  16. RonnieT24

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    Yeah the goal of this tact is to just keep the argument going as opposed to making any meaningful points.. But I love a good sports argument as much as the next guy so as long as a person will at least come at me with intellectual honesty I will engage in the banter all day. But I draw the line at brain dead trolling by throwing out falsehoods just to try and make people debunk them then throw out another one.
     
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  17. ondaedg

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    Everything you’re saying is correct but unfortunately the individual you’re sharing this with isn’t interested in truth. They’re only interested in carrying on their own cause no matter how far they have to bend the truth.
     
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  18. Hadenough

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    At least Dak realizes he isn't that accurate so he is scared to pull the trigger and place the football in tight windows. So he looks for the check down and hopes Amari or Zeke can run into the end zone. Teams have caught on to that and now that Dak won't be running he won't have that 3rd option. To beat the good teams and good defenses you have to have a QB that can place the ball into tighter windows. Daks passing percentage gets worse the closer he is to the end zone. It's not all Kellen Moore. I've seen guys open Dak refuses to trust his arm.
     
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  19. Steve007

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    If you have heard dozens of analysts say Dak is a top 10 then name them. https://bleacherreport.com/articles...matters-most-when-evaluating-nfl-quarterbacks
     
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  20. Steve007

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    Calling names proves that you are emotional.
     
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