Dak vs Wentz, Continued

[PJTHEDOORS]

No, we just say Dak is average and not worth what they paid him and you guys get bent out of shape. I'm not upset they paid him, I just say they overpaid him and the Cowboys wont get to the Superbowl overpaying an average quarterback.

No, 24/7 Dak hate is.

 

[csirl]

A $22M cap hit is overpaying?

An $18M cap hit next year (if we choose to restructure) is overpaying?

Don’t hurt yourself trying to understand this sport.

$1 (one dollar) is overpaying if the player isnt good enough.

 

[csirl]

No, we just say Dak is average and not worth what they paid him and you guys get bent out of shape. I'm not upset they paid him, I just say they overpaid him and the Cowboys wont get to the Superbowl overpaying an average quarterback.

+1

Its like hitting a raw nerve with them - most of them know deep down that you're right, but are clinging onto wishful thinking.

 

[George]

Why do you doubt it will increase?

Because TV ratings are declining.

 

[viman96]

Because TV ratings are declining.

The networks will renew their contracts with a huge increase. The cap is significantly going up over the next couple of years.

 

[Steve007]

Yup, the 24/7 obsessive hate to him is.

Who hates him? So if you don't think elite, think he is overpaid, think he is overrated..... that is hate? You have a weird definition of hate.

 

[TwentyOne]

Tony?

Actually its Troy. But nevermind.

 

[TwentyOne]

lol.

We discussed that for over a year now. I wont go into specifics anymore.
If you have another opinion share them with us.

Ah and no "lol" is no argument. Its more of a sign that you spend too much time on asocial media. So better take care or your language and behaviour will suffer.

 

[viman96]

hahaha wentz backpedaling as fast as he can

 

[Blue&Silver]

I think Wentz will actually do very well in Indy. That team is ready to win and he is back with good coaching.
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Dak has been better than Wentz more than Wentz has been better than Dak. Who will be better this year? Who knows. I think Wentz might just go off. Indy got a steal and Philly continues to be a bunch of clowns in the front office

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Dak has been better than Wentz more than Wentz has been better than Dak. Who will be better this year? Who knows. I think Wentz might just go off. Indy got a steal and Philly continues to be a bunch of clowns in the front office

That's a true statement.

Wentz at his best was better then anything Dak has done so far though.

 

[RonnieT24]

That's a true statement.

Wentz at his best was better then anything Dak has done so far though.

This is an interesting take.. so I looked it up..

Longest winning streak. Dak 11.. Wentz 9
Longest losing streak Dak 3 Wentz 5

Okay those are team stats.. let's focus on their own play..

Games with "perfect passer rating" Dak 1 Wentz 0
Games with passer rating above 100 Dak 32 Wentz 21.
Games with 3 or more TDs Dak 17, Wentz 10
Games above 70% completions Dak 22 Wentz 13 ..
Games below 60% completions Dak 14 Wentz 26
Games with 2 or more INTs Dak 11 Wentz 13


5 best passing games by rating..
Dak 159.3 148.3 141.8 141.7 137.1
Wentz 128.3 126.3 125.9 122.1 121.0

So Wentz's best game ever would not crack Dak's top 5. In fact I took a peek and it might not crack Dak's top 10.

Try as I might I cannot find any objective measure that says Wentz has ever been better than Dak. He basically had one nice stretch in 2017 and then another 4 game stretch in 2019 where he has been good.. For the rest of his career he has been pretty spare. If you find one please post it.

 

[RonnieT24]

+1

Its like hitting a raw nerve with them - most of them know deep down that you're right, but are clinging onto wishful thinking.

I think you are giving this raw nerve thing too much credence. It's a football discussion forum. People engage on every topic because it's a point of discussion. Declaring to yourself that "most of them deep down know you're right" accomplishes nothing. Declaring that a QB who has ranked in the top 10 in just about every major QB category through the first 4+ years of his career is "average" just makes a person appear to be intellectually dishonest. Either that or they don't know the meaning of the word "average." Dak may not be the best QB in the game but he's closer to the top than he is the bottom.. which by definition makes him better than "average."

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

This is an interesting take.. so I looked it up..

Longest winning streak. Dak 11.. Wentz 9
Longest losing streak Dak 3 Wentz 5

Okay those are team stats.. let's focus on their own play..

Games with "perfect passer rating" Dak 1 Wentz 0
Games with passer rating above 100 Dak 32 Wentz 21.
Games with 3 or more TDs Dak 17, Wentz 10
Games above 70% completions Dak 22 Wentz 13 ..
Games below 60% completions Dak 14 Wentz 26
Games with 2 or more INTs Dak 11 Wentz 13


5 best passing games by rating..
Dak 159.3 148.3 141.8 141.7 137.1
Wentz 128.3 126.3 125.9 122.1 121.0

So Wentz's best game ever would not crack Dak's top 5. In fact I took a peek and it might not crack Dak's top 10.

Try as I might I cannot find any objective measure that says Wentz has ever been better than Dak. He basically had one nice stretch in 2017 and then another 4 game stretch in 2019 where he has been good.. For the rest of his career he has been pretty spare. If you find one please post it.

Wentz at his best was the MVP of the league before he got hurt. Dak has not had that kind of level of play and never been considered an MVP.

You're just bringing up and comparing career stats. I said that Wentz at his best has played at a higher level then Dak. I never said Wentz has the better career.

Dak has NEVER been better then 2017 Wentz.

 

[csirl]

I think you are giving this raw nerve thing too much credence. It's a football discussion forum. People engage on every topic because it's a point of discussion. Declaring to yourself that "most of them deep down know you're right" accomplishes nothing. Declaring that a QB who has ranked in the top 10 in just about every major QB category through the first 4+ years of his career is "average" just makes a person appear to be intellectually dishonest. Either that or they don't know the meaning of the word "average." Dak may not be the best QB in the game but he's closer to the top than he is the bottom.. which by definition makes him better than "average."

Again we get personal insults of anyone who has a different opinion.

 

[Seven]

Wentz at his best was the MVP of the league before he got hurt. Dak has not had that kind of level of play and never been considered an MVP.

You're just bringing up and comparing career stats. I said that Wentz at his best has played at a higher level then Dak. I never said Wentz has the better career.

Dak has NEVER been better then 2017 Wentz.

Oh my..... what a freaking spin. I'm dizzy.

Dude. Just stop. ONE SEASON!!?! SERIOUSLY?

You Dallas Cowboy "fans" will not leave the goalposts where they stand.

Shoe size is on the horizon........

 

[viman96]

Wentz at his best was the MVP of the league before he got hurt. Dak has not had that kind of level of play and never been considered an MVP.

You're just bringing up and comparing career stats. I said that Wentz at his best has played at a higher level then Dak. I never said Wentz has the better career.

Dak has NEVER been better then 2017 Wentz.

Conversely Wentz has been way worse than Dak has as well. Last year Wentz for the worst rank starting QB.

 

[Seven]

$1 (one dollar) is overpaying if the player isnt good enough.

Ok(okay)

 

[Seven]

Ok

Because TV ratings are declining.

PROVE IT.......BTW, there's a thread you should read before you comment.

 

[viman96]

I doubt the salary cap increases after 2021.

Why do you doubt it will increase?

Because TV ratings are declining.

The networks will renew their contracts with a huge increase. The cap is significantly going up over the next couple of years.

NFL $11B per year in TV contracts. Still think the salary will not increase after 2021?