Dak vs Wentz

[G2]

There are still fans here who think Wentz is better, they're just away licking their wounds. One bad game and they'll be back chirping that there's no difference between Prescott and Alex Smith.

 

[USArmyVet]

It gets brought up because there were some folks who continued to bring up the idea that Wentz was better than Dak. For years.

Now those people don’t want to have that conversation bc , well, it makes them look ridiculous.

If it was ok for them to throw their Wentz-love in the face of people that supported Dak— why is it wrong for some Dak-love to be thrown the other way?

In the end— in my opinion, this isn’t even a debate anymore lol. It’s a dead horse. But the Wentz love around these parts was trumpeted pretty loudly, so I am enjoying the shoe being on the other foot lol

The only time I recall seeing Wentz's name brought up is when contract negotiations were going on for Dak and people were saying, when it was reported that Dak wanted top tier QB money, that Dak should be in the range of Wentz and Goff as that is where his career was at the time.

Is Dak playing better than Wentz and Goff right now? Absolutely. Is Wentz off to his best start in spite of injuries? Absolutely. Is Goff showing himself a below average QB right now? Absolutely.

So not sure why the need to look backwards but to each their own.

 

[Doomsday101]

Right now I'm pulling for Wentz, better the Colts do the lesser pick the Eagles get.

 

[USArmyVet]

There are still fans here who think Wentz is better, they're just away licking their wounds. One bad game and they'll be back chirping that there's no difference between Prescott and Alex Smith.

Is Wentz better than Dak? No. Are the situations different in terms of personnel? Yes. Does anything really get accomplished with this? No. Does your damn meme still make me want bacon? Absolutely.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Is Wentz better than Dak? No. Are the situations different in terms of personnel? Yes. Does anything really get accomplished with this? No. Does your damn meme still make me want bacon? Absolutely.

The difference is simple.

Dak was a 4th round pick because Dallas had all the tools in place to compete. They weren't in the business of looking for a franchise QB. They wasn't just a QB away from competing. If Romo was the QB in 2016 the Cowboys would have been just as good, if not better. Romo and Moore got hurt, Dak took over a loaded offense, had a great season, and the rest is history.

Wentz was a top draft pick because the Eagles did not have the tools in place. That's usually why you're drafting a QB at the top of the 1st round. Wentz was now expected to turn everything around, and in 2017 he did before he was hurt, but hey, it's football and that happens.

Dak ended up performing better than Wentz, but the situations were completely different, and injuries to Wentz derailed a lot for him. Dak was not asked to do anywhere near the same that Wentz was asked. Wentz didn't have Zeke and that O-Line. I don't really care what anyone says. If you switched Dak and Wentz back in 2016 I believe their careers turn out complete different.

 

[CATCH17]

The difference is simple.

Dak was a 4th round pick because Dallas had all the tools in place to compete. They weren't in the business of looking for a franchise QB. They wasn't just a QB away from competing. If Romo was the QB in 2016 the Cowboys would have been just as good, if not better. Romo and Moore got hurt, Dak took over a loaded offense, had a great season, and the rest is history.

Wentz was a top draft pick because the Eagles did not have the tools in place. That's usually why you're drafting a QB at the top of the 1st round. Wentz was now expected to turn everything around, and in 2017 he did before he was hurt, but hey, it's football and that happens.

Dak ended up performing better than Wentz, but the situations were completely different, and injuries to Wentz derailed a lot for him. Dak was not asked to do anywhere near the same that Wentz was asked. Wentz didn't have Zeke and that O-Line. I don't really care what anyone says. If you switched Dak and Wentz back in 2016 I believe their careers turn out complete different.

Smart post.. Goff sucks In any scenario though.

I had Wentz as the top QB in that draft over Goff and Paxton Lynch.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Smart post.. Goff sucks I’m any scenario though.

Yes, Goff isn't in the conversation lol

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I bet Wentz has a healthier left calf.

He’s been getting injured every year he’s been in the league dating back to North Dakota….I wouldn’t assume he has a healthy anything…

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The difference is simple.

Dak was a 4th round pick because Dallas had all the tools in place to compete. They weren't in the business of looking for a franchise QB. They wasn't just a QB away from competing. If Romo was the QB in 2016 the Cowboys would have been just as good, if not better. Romo and Moore got hurt, Dak took over a loaded offense, had a great season, and the rest is history.

Wentz was a top draft pick because the Eagles did not have the tools in place. That's usually why you're drafting a QB at the top of the 1st round. Wentz was now expected to turn everything around, and in 2017 he did before he was hurt, but hey, it's football and that happens.

Dak ended up performing better than Wentz, but the situations were completely different, and injuries to Wentz derailed a lot for him. Dak was not asked to do anywhere near the same that Wentz was asked. Wentz didn't have Zeke and that O-Line. I don't really care what anyone says. If you switched Dak and Wentz back in 2016 I believe their careers turn out complete different.

Yeah except Eagles won a SB a year later without Wentz and Dak’s team struggled…the Eagles also traded up to get Wentz just like the Rams traded up to get Goff. They didn’t go to dumpster fires either. Wentz is on a playoff team
and they still stink. Y’all make excuses for Wentz when he shows you time and time again what type of quarterback he is.

 

[Swagger]

The difference is simple.

Dak was a 4th round pick because Dallas had all the tools in place to compete. They weren't in the business of looking for a franchise QB. They wasn't just a QB away from competing. If Romo was the QB in 2016 the Cowboys would have been just as good, if not better. Romo and Moore got hurt, Dak took over a loaded offense, had a great season, and the rest is history.

Wentz was a top draft pick because the Eagles did not have the tools in place. That's usually why you're drafting a QB at the top of the 1st round. Wentz was now expected to turn everything around, and in 2017 he did before he was hurt, but hey, it's football and that happens.

Dak ended up performing better than Wentz, but the situations were completely different, and injuries to Wentz derailed a lot for him. Dak was not asked to do anywhere near the same that Wentz was asked. Wentz didn't have Zeke and that O-Line. I don't really care what anyone says. If you switched Dak and Wentz back in 2016 I believe their careers turn out complete different.

I agree.
Prescott is playing exceptionally well this season, as he should given what he has around him on offense, Moore as his head coach and all the turnovers produced by the defense giving him more possessions...but some people are acting as though Wentz is playing like Nathan Peterman down in Indy! He's playing very well and has only been improving with every game he plays after his broken foot. Granted, his fumble last night was awful and hilarious, but he's generally playing very well. He had a kicker miss not one but two regulation field goals to beat the Ravens so they should be 4-3 with a tough schedule and I still fancy them to win their division now that key players are starting to come back from injury.
I don't really understand the obsession of some fans bringing up Wentz vs Dak yet not mentioning Goff.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

There are still fans here who think Wentz is better, they're just away licking their wounds. One bad game and they'll be back chirping that there's no difference between Prescott and Alex Smith.

Yep. They just have to shut up until Dak has a bad game…..

 

[USArmyVet]

He’s been getting injured every year he’s been in the league dating back to North Dakota….I wouldn’t assume he has a healthy anything…

The thing with Wentz, aside from the physical ailments, is the mental issue that he seems to deal with the last few seasons. He showed the physical tools to succeed and early on was fine mentally but after the Super Bowl wherein Foles took over in the playoffs due to a Wentz injury, he seems to have fallen apart mentally. He is playing well statistically this season but he just isn't what he used to be.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I agree.
Prescott is playing exceptionally well this season, as he should given what he has around him on offense, Moore as his head coach and all the turnovers produced by the defense giving him more possessions...but some people are acting as though Wentz is playing like Nathan Peterman down in Indy! He's playing very well and has only been improving with every game he plays after his broken foot. Granted, his fumble last night was awful and hilarious, but he's generally playing very well. He had a kicker miss not one but two regulation kicks to beat the Ravens so they should be 4-3 with a tough schedule and I still fancy them to win their division now that key players are starting to come back from injury.
I don't really understand the obsession of some fans bringing up Wentz vs Dak yet not mentioning Goff.

Because Goff is worse than both of them lol. I don’t even get bringing up Wentz and Dak anymore. Wentz has been living off his 2017 season for so long at this point that looks like a fluke season.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Yeah except Eagles won a SB a year later without Wentz and Dak’s team struggled…the Eagles also traded up to get Wentz just like the Rams traded up to get Goff. They didn’t go to dumpster fires either. Wentz is on a playoff team
and they still stink. Y’all make excuses for Wentz when he shows you time and time again what type of quarterback he is.

I don't like Wentz about as much as I don't like you, but just because he was an Eagle I'm not going to pretend the guy stinks, because he don't. His injuries derailed him a lot and towards the end with Philly he was literally playing with practice squad receivers every week and STILL was able to pull out wins. Week 16 of 2019 comes to mind, remember that one?

Also, Wentz is having a good season so far. Are you saying that wins/loses are solely on the QB?

Dak is better than Wentz, but to act like their situations didn't matter is just foolish and shows your lack of being able to look at things with unbiased eyes.

 

[thunderpimp91]

The difference is simple.

Dak was a 4th round pick because Dallas had all the tools in place to compete. They weren't in the business of looking for a franchise QB. They wasn't just a QB away from competing. If Romo was the QB in 2016 the Cowboys would have been just as good, if not better. Romo and Moore got hurt, Dak took over a loaded offense, had a great season, and the rest is history.

Wentz was a top draft pick because the Eagles did not have the tools in place. That's usually why you're drafting a QB at the top of the 1st round. Wentz was now expected to turn everything around, and in 2017 he did before he was hurt, but hey, it's football and that happens.

Dak ended up performing better than Wentz, but the situations were completely different, and injuries to Wentz derailed a lot for him. Dak was not asked to do anywhere near the same that Wentz was asked. Wentz didn't have Zeke and that O-Line. I don't really care what anyone says. If you switched Dak and Wentz back in 2016 I believe their careers turn out complete different.

Agree completely, and I mean that with 0 disrespect to Dak. So many QBs fail coming out of college and I truly believe where they end up matters. I don't think Mac Jones was the best to come out of the draft this year, but so far he sure if playing like it. Lawrence/Fields/Wilson haven't had a chance of success. I bet if you put any of them in New England though that team is no worse off than it is currently. Also put Mac Jones on the Bears and we are talking about how much of a bust he is rather than what he could become in New England.

 

[HungryLion]

The difference is simple.

Dak was a 4th round pick because Dallas had all the tools in place to compete. They weren't in the business of looking for a franchise QB. They wasn't just a QB away from competing. If Romo was the QB in 2016 the Cowboys would have been just as good, if not better. Romo and Moore got hurt, Dak took over a loaded offense, had a great season, and the rest is history.

Wentz was a top draft pick because the Eagles did not have the tools in place. That's usually why you're drafting a QB at the top of the 1st round. Wentz was now expected to turn everything around, and in 2017 he did before he was hurt, but hey, it's football and that happens.

Dak ended up performing better than Wentz, but the situations were completely different, and injuries to Wentz derailed a lot for him. Dak was not asked to do anywhere near the same that Wentz was asked. Wentz didn't have Zeke and that O-Line. I don't really care what anyone says. If you switched Dak and Wentz back in 2016 I believe their careers turn out complete different.

That’s right. The eagles team that won a Super Bowl without Wentz. And then the following season went on a winning streak and won a playoff game without Wentz.

those eagles teams just didn’t have the supporting cast. Wentz was asked to do so much more.

 

[Swagger]

The thing with Wentz, aside from the physical ailments, is the mental issue that he seems to deal with the last few seasons. He showed the physical tools to succeed and early on was fine mentally but after the Super Bowl wherein Foles took over in the playoffs due to a Wentz injury, he seems to have fallen apart mentally. He is playing well statistically this season but he just isn't what he used to be.

That's fair but I do think he's playing well this season. The Colts' o-line was banged up to start the season (e.g., anyone objective who watched them play the Seahawks would see that he had little chance to do more than he did) but it's getting more healthy and Wentz has looked good. 11 touchdowns to 1 interception (yes the fumble last night was horrific!) but the point is people are making out as though he's stinking up the joint down there when he's actually playing well.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The thing with Wentz, aside from the physical ailments, is the mental issue that he seems to deal with the last few seasons. He showed the physical tools to succeed and early on was fine mentally but after the Super Bowl wherein Foles took over in the playoffs due to a Wentz injury, he seems to have fallen apart mentally. He is playing well statistically this season but he just isn't what he used to be.

Wentz normally has decent stats. But when you watch him play......he just makes these weird mistakes. The one posted in this thread.....its not foreign to his career. He did them all year with the Eagles. I do think like you said he has some mental issues as a football player.

And I'm not a fan of the guy but I'll say this. He seems to always to be trying to prove himself. I guess you can say the same about Dak or most NFL QB's......but he just seems to always have to prove he's something that he's not. He's not that 2017 Wentz and never will be. I don't know how the Colts keep him in there and lose their 1st round pick. I'm sure they will be professional about it but the best thing they can do is bench him when they have to in order to keep their 1st round pick.

 

[CWR]

It gets brought up because there were some folks who continued to bring up the idea that Wentz was better than Dak. For years.

Now those people don’t want to have that conversation bc , well, it makes them look ridiculous.

If it was ok for them to throw their Wentz-love in the face of people that supported Dak— why is it wrong for some Dak-love to be thrown the other way?

In the end— in my opinion, this isn’t even a debate anymore lol. It’s a dead horse. But the Wentz love around these parts was trumpeted pretty loudly, so I am enjoying the shoe being on the other foot lol

Exactly, they all want off the hook now. Naw, they earned this.

 

[HungryLion]

In all seriousness.

I don’t think Wentz is a bad QB.

he can be kind of streaky. Doesn’t do well if he is not well protected. But Wentz can play really well at times.

Dak is better than Wentz though. And it’s not that close.

I will say. The eagles trading Wentz for Hurts. Could be a huge mistakes. Hurts ain’t the guy and we will see how long it takes them to find a franchise guy.

I hope the eagles ride the QB carousel for a long time.