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Cowboys | L .Allen could be cap victim
Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:21:18 -0800

Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports Dallas Cowboys OG Larry Allen could end up a cap victim this off-season. Allen is scheduled to cost $7.55 million against the salary cap for 2006 and is due a $2 million roster bonus in March, but the Cowboys could save $3.5 million by releasing him.

Cowboys | Adams should be ready for some off-season practices
Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:21:01 -0800

Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports Dallas Cowboys OT Flozell Adams (knee) should be ready in time to participate in some, if not all of the team's off-season practices. Adams underwent reconstructive knee surgery in October to repair a torn ACL.

Cowboys | Gurode expected to test free agency
Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:22:01 -0800

Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports Dallas Cowboys OG Andre Gurode is expected to test the free agent market this off-season, according to the team after a brief talk with his agent.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised to see Gurode sign on with another team and with good OL coaching become a starter.
 

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Cowboys | L .Allen could be cap victim
Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:21:18 -0800

Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports Dallas Cowboys OG Larry Allen could end up a cap victim this off-season. Allen is scheduled to cost $7.55 million against the salary cap for 2006 and is due a $2 million roster bonus in March, but the Cowboys could save $3.5 million by releasing him.

Cowboys | Adams should be ready for some off-season practices
Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:21:01 -0800

Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports Dallas Cowboys OT Flozell Adams (knee) should be ready in time to participate in some, if not all of the team's off-season practices. Adams underwent reconstructive knee surgery in October to repair a torn ACL.

Cowboys | Gurode expected to test free agency
Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:22:01 -0800

Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports Dallas Cowboys OG Andre Gurode is expected to test the free agent market this off-season, according to the team after a brief talk with his agent.

Great news on the hotel!
 

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Gryphon said:
Cowboys | L .Allen could be cap victim
Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:21:18 -0800

Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports Dallas Cowboys OG Larry Allen could end up a cap victim this off-season. Allen is scheduled to cost $7.55 million against the salary cap for 2006 and is due a $2 million roster bonus in March, but the Cowboys could save $3.5 million by releasing him.
Restruscture???

Great news about Flo.

Gurode...time to hit the road anyway.
 

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Won't surprise me a bit to see them let LA go.

While people in Dallas want to think of him as being All-Pro, he's sharply declined since his first half of his career.

The whole reason Rivera was brought in was to provide leadership LA wasn't providing.

We went through letting LA establish his market value a couple of years ago and no teams wanted him or wanted to pay what we were committed to pay for him.

It's time to move on.

Take the cap savings and go shopping in FA for a G.

For the sake of the future of the team, LA is the last vestige of the old guard in Dallas where JJ overpaid and we got less performance when LA's deal was redone.

The team needs to reduce it's losses. For what we are scheduled to pay Allen, we could probably afford two players who could help us. Maybe 3.

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I'm a big LA fan also, but his play has decline over the years, he has lost alot of his mobility, if LA can get his hands on you he is effective but if a DT has some qiuickness then he has trouble. But the thing is to not just let him go without someone to replace him.
 

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DCBoysfan said:
I'm a big LA fan also, but his play has decline over the years, he has lost alot of his mobility, if LA can get his hands on you he is effective but if a DT has some qiuickness then he has trouble. But the thing is to not just let him go without someone to replace him.
I agree completely. He should restructure because he won't get big money in FA unless it's from Uncle Al :D
 

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Yeagermeister said:
I agree completely. He should restructure because he won't get big money in FA unless it's from Uncle Al :D

Restructure or pay cut? I don't want to see them add years to his contract when his play is already on the downhill side. I like Larry but I don't think it is a good ideal to hang on to a player who can't do the job.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
Restructure or pay cut? I don't want to see them add years to his contract when his play is already on the downhill side. I like Larry but I don't think it is a good ideal to hang on to a player who can't do the job.
I agree but let's make sure we can replace him with a player that is just as good.
 

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I agree but let's make sure we can replace him with a player that is just as good.

I did not mean to release him and not find a replacement. I just think it would be a mistake and waste of money to hang on to a player who is not even close to playing as he once did.
 
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What we do with LA will become very complicated.......if we let him go and Gurode leaves then what will we do? Is Peterman a player? Who in the hell knows! If we keep replacing one or two players on the OL every year when we will ever get any consistency? Can we afford to restructure LA's contract at this stage of his career? Restructure normally means BIG SIGNING BONUS! Will he accept a back-loaded contract? I'm very anxious to see how the front office handles this one. :rolleyes:
 

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What we do with LA will become very complicated.......if we let him go and Gurode leaves then what will we do? Is Peterman a player? Who in the hell knows! If we keep replacing one or two players on the OL every year when we will ever get any consistency? Can we afford to restructure LA's contract at this stage of his career? Restructure normally means BIG SIGNING BONUS! Will he accept a back-loaded contract? I'm very anxious to see how the front office handles this one. :rolleyes:

I agree about consistency but the fact is even if LA plays this year he is still a player who is not going to be here much longer and in the meantime his play just does not come close to the money we would be forking over. If Dallas can save 3.5 mill by cutting him loose then bite the bullet and do it.
 

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I agree about consistency but the fact is even if LA plays this year he is still a player who is not going to be here much longer and in the meantime his play just does not come close to the money we would be forking over. If Dallas can save 3.5 mill by cutting him loose then bite the bullet and do it.

That may help save the slaary cap but what about the OLG position? Yes Flozell Adamas is coming back at LT, but players don't play so well the first year back from torn ACL's. It usually takes up to the second year back when thay're back to full-100%-speed. You have to look no furhter than Rivera to realize how coming back from an injury can truly hamper you the first year back.

So if we let LA go who do put next to Flozell at LOG who can provide some consistency and help Flozell out if need-be? Would you bet on Peterman? I wouldn't! Our OL played poorly last season and Peterman still got no playing time. Currently LA is our best bet; he's better than any LOG we could get in free agency.

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AMERICAS_FAN said:
That may help save the slaary cap but what about the OLG position? Yes Flozell Adamas is coming back, but players don't play so well the first year back from torn ACL's. It usually takes up to the second year back when thay're back to full-100%-speed. You have to look no furhter than Rivera to realize how coming back from an injury can truly hamper you the first year back.

So if we let LA go who do put next to Flozell at LOG who can provide some consistency and help Flozell out if need-be? Would you bet on Peterman? I wouldn't! Our OL played poorly last season and Peterman still got no playing time. Currently LA is our best bet; he's better than any LOG we could get in free agency.

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I would agree he was better than any LOG in the past, today no I don't think so the guy can't move he makes contact and that is it there is no big push and he can't pull. I'm sorry but I think there are many right now in this league who can offer Dallas more and better play along the line than Larry Allen. I have been a big fan of his so I say this not in a mean sprited way but watching him play tells me all I need to know and that is Larry is toast he can't do the job
 

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AMERICAS_FAN said:
That may help save the slaary cap but what about the OLG position? Yes Flozell Adamas is coming back at LT, but players don't play so well the first year back from torn ACL's. It usually takes up to the second year back when thay're back to full-100%-speed. You have to look no furhter than Rivera to realize how coming back from an injury can truly hamper you the first year back.

So if we let LA go who do put next to Flozell at LOG who can provide some consistency and help Flozell out if need-be? Would you bet on Peterman? I wouldn't! Our OL played poorly last season and Peterman still got no playing time. Currently LA is our best bet; he's better than any LOG we could get in free agency.

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If we let him go we should move Tucker back to the position he's best suited for G....not sure if he was a L or R in college.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
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I would agree he was better than any LOG in the past, today no I don't think so the guy can't move he makes contact and that is it there is no big push and he can't pull. I'm sorry but I think there are many right now in this league who can offer Dallas more and better play along the line than Larry Allen. I have been a big fan of his so I say this not in a mean sprited way but watching him play tells me all I need to know and that is Larry is toast he can't do the job

Dooms,

I don't disagree with you, but any candidates out there in FA you would suggest would be better and we should consider?

I would love to get younger on the OL as well, if someone was available . . . .
 

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Dooms,

I don't disagree with you, but any candidates out there in FA you would suggest would be better and we should consider?

I would love to get younger on the OL as well, if someone was available . . . .

Bob Hallen UFA Chargers
Corey Hulsey UFA Raiders
Fred Weary UFA Texans
Grey Ruegamer UFA Packers
Jonathan Goodwin UFA Jets
Kris Dielman RFA Chargers
Kyle Kosier UFA Lions
Montrae Holland RFA Saints
Ray Brown UFA Commanders
Reggie Wells RFA Cardinals
Scott Kooistra RFA Bengals
Sean Mahan RFA Buccaneers
Stephen Nea UFA Patriots
Steve Hutchinson UFA Seahawks
Terrence Metcalf UFA Bears
Tom Nutten UFA Rams
Toniu Fonoti UFA Vikings
Tutan Reyes UFA Panthers
Tyrone Hopson UFA Lions
Vince Manuwai RFA Jaguars

Out of all these FA you guys are trying to tell me none are as good as Larry Allen right now? I don't think any of these guys will ever be as good as Larry was in his prime but the fact remain LA is not in his prime and his play is not good and sure as heck not worth footing a bill that would make no sense.
 

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Bob Hallen UFA Chargers
Corey Hulsey UFA Raiders
Fred Weary UFA Texans
Grey Ruegamer UFA Packers
Jonathan Goodwin UFA Jets
Kris Dielman RFA Chargers
Kyle Kosier UFA Lions
Montrae Holland RFA Saints
Ray Brown UFA Commanders
Reggie Wells RFA Cardinals
Scott Kooistra RFA Bengals
Sean Mahan RFA Buccaneers
Stephen Nea UFA Patriots
Steve Hutchinson UFA Seahawks
Terrence Metcalf UFA Bears
Tom Nutten UFA Rams
Toniu Fonoti UFA Vikings
Tutan Reyes UFA Panthers
Tyrone Hopson UFA Lions
Vince Manuwai RFA Jaguars

Out of all these FA you guys are trying to tell me none are as good as Larry Allen right now? I don't think any of these guys will ever be as good as Larry was in his prime but the fact remain LA is not in his prime and his play is not good and sure as heck not worth footing a bill that would make no sense.
LA is past his prime but Ray Brown is WAY past his prime but he did seem to play pretty well considering Portis had a good year.
 

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LA is past his prime but Ray Brown is WAY past his prime but he did seem to play pretty well considering Portis had a good year.

I'm just showing the list of FA at Gaurd this year I did not say all of these guys were prime candidates to take Larry spot.
 

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but players don't play so well the first year back from torn ACL's. It usually takes up to the second year back when thay're back to full-100%-speed. **


i agree with everything you said exept that, i tore my acl a year ago and it made me better in someways it makes you hungrier because it makes you realize how fast you can lose it. we all know Flozell would be a MONSTER if he were to become motivated. Im predicting he has a very good year. I cannot think of a player who hasn't been just as good his first year back from an acl reconstruction. Now a blown acl and mcl or acl and pcl that is totally diffrent but thats not what were talkin about here.
 
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