Dallas Cowboys - Ranking All Time Top Five at Position

CATCH17 said:
I agree..

Irvin 1

Pearson 2

Dez 3

Lamb has the potential to get to 2. He’s the only offensive player in our playoff games who doesn’t spaz out.
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CeeDee would have a tough time moving ahead of Pearson on my list unless he helps lead us to a ring. You can’t go just my numbers of these days when comparing current receivers with those from the 70s and 80s. Numbers are really inflated these days.
 
QBs: Staubach, Aikman, Meredith, White. Romo and Dak can fight it out for 5th!!!!!!!!! W/ Morton!!!!!

WR: Irvin, Pearson, Hayes, Tony Hill, Frank Clarke. No, Dez doesn't make the list.

RB: Dorsett, Smith, Perkins, Calvin Hill, Demarco Murray. No, Zeke doesn't make the list. I almost put Duane Thomas in there, extremely talented but crazied his way out of the league.
 
acr731 said:
Why is Danny White 5th? He accomplished far more than either Romo or Dak.

Walker was also much better than Zeke.
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Danny White inherited a great team. The Cowboys were only three years removed from a championship when he took over and a number of their star players were under 30 years old. As for Walker, he only had one 1000 yard season with the Cowboys and it wasn’t as good as the season Zeke had his rookie year. Zeke had three 1300+ yard seasons with the Cowboys. He also helped lead us to a couple of playoff wins. He had two games over 120+ yards in the playoffs. Walker never led us to the playoffs. Zeke had more yards and TDs than Walker. To judge the two backs with the Cowboys, you have to go by production and Zeke far out produced Walker.
 
Aerolithe_Lion said:
Dexter Coakley over Micah Parsons?

Micah already has more pro bowls, way more All-Pros, plus Hall of Famer monitor:

PFR has a system where they accumulate statistics and accreditations to come up with a score for your career. The average hall of fame OLB has a score of 103. Dexter Coakley’s career came out to 34. Micah in only 4 seasons is already at 36.
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Great point. .. "war Daddy " Parsons should've been right behind Dware ..
 
Romo is not better than Dak.

Dak is about to break most, if not all, of Romo's franchise passer leading records by the end of this 2025 season.
 
I'm not putting Deion on this list...........he only played what 3 seasons for the Cowboys? How does that make him an All-Time great Cowboy player.
 
KJJ said:
CeeDee would have a tough time moving ahead of Pearson on my list unless he helps lead us to a ring. You can’t go just my numbers of these days when comparing current receivers with those from the 70s and 80s. Numbers are really inflated these days.
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I rarely go by numbers with any player.

That’s why I’m not a big Dak fan. Padding stats on garbage teams doesn’t impress me.
 
America's Cowboy said:
Romo is not better than Dak.

Dak is about to break most, if not all, of Romo's franchise passer leading records by the end of this 2025 season.
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Romo was one of the most intelligent players the Cowboys ever had.
He had an uncanny ability to read the defense. He was a coach and general on the field.

Unfortunately…..his body gave out by the time he was truly hitting the jedi master stage of his career.
 
Robbieac said:
Romo was one of the most intelligent players the Cowboys ever had.
He had an uncanny ability to read the defense. He was a coach and general on the field.

Unfortunately…..his body gave out by the time he was truly hitting the jedi master stage of his career.
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True. Yet, the same has been said about Dak. So Romo and Dak are known to be smart QBs who can read opposing defenses.
 
KJJ said:
By the way, I wouldn’t be putting Everson Walls ahead of Cornell Green who’s in the Hall of Fame. Walls may have gotten a lot of INT‘s, but he also got burned a lot. I wouldn’t be putting Newman ahead of Green either
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Cornell Green is not in the Hall of Fame, although he should be. And Jerry Jones should be horsewhipped naked around AT&T Stadium for not putting him in the Ring of Honor.

He absolutely ranks ahead of Everson Walls and Newman.
 
America's Cowboy said:
Romo is not better than Dak.

Dak is about to break most, if not all, of Romo's franchise passer leading records by the end of this 2025 season.
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What would Dak's stats look like without all the garbage time stats he has piled up over the years? Take the Green Bay disaster for example - the Dallas offense could only put up 90 something yards until GB removed their starters. That 90 something yards shot up to over 400, and you can't help but wonder how the stat line would have ended up had GB left their starters in the game.

Personally, I don't have any love for either QB - both equally suck in the playoffs and against top teams. I have a hard time saying one was better than the other, but if all we're going to go by is the stat line, then I guess the needle points a little more in Dak's favor. Otherwise, in my opinion they're carbon copy losers. Neither one can get the job done when it matters most.
 
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This may be controversial, but I'm putting Fredbeard ahead of Stepnoski. I know Step has the rings, but he had a better team around him relative to era and better coaching. Both have five Pro Bowls, but Fred has an AP1 year as well while Step has three AP2's. I believe the center position was stronger overall in Fred's time. Just looking at pure physical ability, Fredbeard is the better player, in part due to sheer size and strength. When Step returned to Dallas in 1999, he clearly wasn't the same player. If you want to rate Step based on time served, I understand that part of the argument and can agree if you ascribe more weight to years on the team.
 
To me, Demarcus Ware was a DE not matter what they called him. He does not fit in with the other outside LBs. And as a DE, he was 2nd on the list behind Haley.

Erik Williams would have been the best Cowboys OT ever had he not had the car accident.
 
plasticman said:
Why are so many guys with no rings ranked higher than guys with multiple rings? A lot of those latter guys had to be pretty good.

I dunno, I'm thinking that the 70's might seem a little ancient.

At DE, you have to put Harvey Martin at #1.......and put Demarco Ware at #2.

For all practical purposes, Ware was a DE playing out of position in a 3-4. Everyone knew what he was going to do.

At #3, it was Ed "Too Tall" Jones. I'll put it this way; some QBs (the shorter ones) stopped throwing on his side.

Now you can put in Haley at #4 and complete it with George Andrie at #5

George Andrie, five consecutive Pro Bowls, five consecutive double digit sack seasons. he missed two starts in the first ten years of his career, all with the Cowboys.

Andrie played in 17 playoff games, including two NFL championships (pre-merger), two conference championship games and two Super Bowls. He scored the first Cowboys TD in the Ice Bowl on a fumble recovery.

During that brutal defensive playoff struggle between the Cowboys and Lions in 1970 it was Andrie who scored the safety as the Cowboys won 5-0.

But that's only my opinion which I don't consider better or worse, just different.
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recency bias is always a factor. I am fortunate enough to have seen virtually all of these players when they were either at their best or near it.

One problem with the defense is that the boys were a 4-3 team until BP. So things like DE and OLB are basically very much the same but with significant differences as well; trying to compare them is hard. Ware was a OLB

Harvey Martin was the best DE I saw play for the boys; Haley was a close second then too tall and Andrie tied right after. OLB for the 3-4 is easily Ware followed by Parsons
 
Jerry looks at the list and thinks. "Looky there. I hired 4 out of 5 of the best coaches ever coached the Dallas Cowboys. Nobody does this better than me".
 
gimmesix said:
I disagree with that. Ware was specifically drafted to play OLB in the 3-4 by Bill Parcells. We used the 3-4 through 2012 since Wade Phillips succeeded Parcells as coach and Rob Ryan used a base 3-4 as well. He did not move to full-time defensive end until 2013 when Monte Kiffin switched us to the 4-3.

Parsons was drafted as a linebacker, but other than his rookie year, he has spent the majority of his time at defensive end in a 4-3 defense.
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But Ware was exclusively a pass rushing LB because you ran a 3-4. When he went to a 4-3 in Denver he was a hand in the dirt DE. Hes an EDGE, through and through

Even in a 4-3, Micah still plays a lot of LB
 
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