Dallas FA signings need fixing

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  1. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    Cherry picking solutions to what you think are our problems after the fact is adorable.
     
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  2. arglebargle

    arglebargle Well-Known Member

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    Carr cost so much because some ******* front office offered Cortland Finnegan (the other top touted DB of that year) a huge contract, raising the pay bar considerably. IIRC the Cowboys were originally negotiating something around 10 mil less over the length of the deal, but got stuck having to up the ante.

    Could've been worse: We could have signed Finnegan.....
     
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  3. Zman5

    Zman5 Well-Known Member

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    LOL. You're full of it. Go ahead and cherry pick your facts. What does Jerry handing out top dollars to CB has to do with the draft? Also, do you think Jerry didn't have anything to do with the Gregory and Jaylon Smith pick? Are you drunk? You usually are better than this.

    Even so , if you had paid attention, you would know nothing much changed after 2014 when it comes to picking defensive players. They are still using premium picks on high risk players and paying the price.

    Both Gregory and Jaylon "could" turn out to be good players, but it doesn't change the fact they were the wrong type of players to use a high pick on for this talent starved team. If we already had an established defense, we could take those kind of risk. Unfortunately, this team is void of defensive talent and can't afford to take those kind of risk.

    Even Byron Jones was somewhat of a risk for a first rounder considering he wasn't a full time Safety playing at a small school.
     
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  4. robbieruff

    robbieruff Well-Known Member

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    Or none in this case.
     
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  5. robbieruff

    robbieruff Well-Known Member

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    Here here. Slow and steady makes sense when in total rebuild mode...not when you’re a SB contender.
     
  6. coult44

    coult44 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry dude Wrong answer... 21 Different teams have won either a conference championship or a Super Bowl since our beloved Cowboys last did so...23 out of 32 teams have been to one of those games since we last were. Yep we are on the very short list of those horrible teams like Detroit, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Miami, and Houston that haven't played in a championship game in almost 1/4 of a century. Even teams like Jax, Arizona, Minn, Oak and SF, have been more successful than we have. That's why soooooo many of us arare so rabid about this very conversation.
     
  7. coult44

    coult44 Well-Known Member

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    There are far too many solid defensive players who are getting drafted while we are trying to hit the lottery with some of these "hope-filled" project players.

    If we aren't going to do better in FA, we have to do better in the draft. While we are waiting for our "great story" guys to get better, our good and solid guys are getting older or leaving. You can't build this way!!!
     
  8. Blackspider214

    Blackspider214 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. It gets frustrating seeing a team like the Eagles go out and fill their needs and now they morphed into the best record in the league after a last place finish. I don't like how some people think it's either or. Meaning building through the draft or free agency. You can do both. And many teams do. Obviously you want your cornerstone pieces to be from the draft but you only have so many picks every year and many of them are not going to be ready out of the gate. So go and fill some needs with some free agents. And no, every free agent is not a bum. With the salary cap era, you just can't afford to keep every player. Look at Leary and Ware in our case. They aren't bums at all yet we just couldn't keep them in our situation. Now I'll agree in certain instances players are free agents for a reason i.e. QBs. No team will ever let a good QB walk.

    I'd rather pay a little more to a proven player that knows the NFL than to count on a wide eyed rookie who will take time to learn. For instance, DB this year. I mean I guess Carroll was that guy for us? But that was a terrible signing and we should have known better seeing we played him twice a year and he was trash then.
     
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  9. Zman5

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    We haven't drafted defense well past 7 years regardless who's been in charge of the FO. We need to look for another strategy to build the defense. It hasn't happened through the draft. I'm not sure if it ever will.
     
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  10. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    Roy Williams the WR was essentially a high-priced FA pick up and also a massive failure.

    And no... The Carr signing was not a success.

    And given the Cowboys had so much success with signing high-priced FA's in prior years from your perspective... We'll see if they return to it shall we?
     
  11. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    No they aren't.

    And that's why many of the teams have given up signing high-priced free agency.

    It's a relatively poor investment.
     
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  12. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    Albert Haynesworth says "Hi".
     
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  13. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    How about before the fact? Because he did that too. The fact is that some fans just can't handle their team being justifiably criticized when they make stupid moves.

    Before, during, or after the fact.

    That's truly "adorable". And pathetic.
     
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  14. stasheroo

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    There's the sad truth of it.

    It's like they worked at being totally wrong.

    :facepalm:
     
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  15. kevm3

    kevm3 Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like the fo heard a cliche and took it literally. The core of your team is built through the draft. That doesn't mean only utilize the draft. Do is working out well for the eagles. Signing reid worked well for the patriots. One solid fa signing is much better than grabbing camp fodder that you will cut later.
     
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  16. JW82

    JW82 JJ21

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    They want to keep going on the cheap, because they suck at free agency, and they'd rather pay a little and miss than a lot and miss, instead of actually getting better at signing the right free agents....
     
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  17. stasheroo

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    How about just being able to recognize the talent that you already have? And paying a little more money to keep them rather than going out and signing players who are marginally cheaper but much, much, much worse?

    That's what ended up happening here. This had less to do with dollars and more to do with sense. Common sense. And being able to identify talent.
     
  18. Sydla

    Sydla Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, except that's not true. I was pushing for them to sign a guy like Hyde when free agency started. I, along with many others, weren't dazzled by the idea of Heath being handed a starting SS position. People also were very much against not getting a better DT to pair with Collins than Paea.

    I love these rationalizations after the fact that people are just operating with 20/20 hindsight and it justifies the mistakes the front office made. There were many people here questioning their FA plan and they were right. It was basically a dud.
     
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  19. Zman5

    Zman5 Well-Known Member

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    Snacks Harrison says "Hi" back.
     
  20. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    Oh-Kay.
     
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