Dallas Would've Been 3-14 without Brandon Aubrey's Points

[Coogiguy03]

Are you trying to agree with him thinking there's a huge difference for all 32 teams and the way they utilize a kicker or is it just that some have great kickers and utilize them a little more because they can although I agree they need to work on the red zone stuff I know for a fact that there are three or 4 kickers that attempted more field goals this year than than Brandon Aubrey maybe not from beyond 60 but it's a known fact that the kicker is part of everybody's point scoring it is very important.

Oh there are some teams that part of their scoring has been skewed a lot because their defense scores so the point differentials are all different but I can promise you this there's not a big difference between team one and Team 32 on how many points that were gained by their kicker most kickers are up there in scoring because every team uses them, and its big part of the game....

And you think discuss this before and I think it's because he watched the Cowboys so much you think that they kicked a lot more field goals than others but maybe it's because they're in field goal range more often not just because the range is larger they do move the ball between the 40s really well like have more first downs and are in that field goal range a little more often than other teams therefore they will kick a few more field goals..

What are you so mad about everything that we post doesn't have to be a whining session!!!

We can post “the sun is bright" and here you go getting mad at us for saying that this and that!! Sheesh it's really not that serious my friend, this is a blog lounge, not a job fair

 

[Blackspider214]

I would've done it also subtracting the opponents' kicking points.

Thank you! You can't do an experiment like this and have it one-sided. Why on earth does Dallas subtract all their kicker's points but we leave the other team's? Well no kidding we lose games in the W-L seeing as one team is handicapped and the other isn't.

This is one of silliest points I've seen on here.

 

[blueblood70]

What are you so mad about everything that we post doesn't have to be a whining session!!!

We can post “the sun is bright" and here you go getting mad at us for saying that this and that!! Sheesh it's really not that serious my friend, this is a blog lounge, not a job fair

And when the original poster did this to gaslight fans with no other interpretation but including the Cowboys kicker and no other teams for a comparison we call that a troll job.

It's never serious so you I don't get to respond I mean isn't that what this place is so we're allowed to counter an opinion with we need further evidence because this is incomplete and it's very wrong but that's OK we get it you don't understand that you're not allowed to post something that insinuates the Cowboys overuse their kicker without any other comparisons which I've already counted because other teams have attempted more field goals than the Dallas Cowboys this year therefore it's completely wrong it's our base and it's really a topic that didn't need to be talked about.

The Cowboys do not utilize their kicker much more than the average team who has a good kicker some of them don't use their kicker because their kicker sucks so bad they're afraid to use them if you want to go through that again why did you what Brett Maher done I mean a kicker like him they would attempt a whole lot less kicks maybe we need a bad kicker is that your solution?

I'm sorry I know what you're saying here if I don't agree with you if I don't get on your side of every debate then you're going to see it as wasteful and that somehow I'm whining or is it just that you don't like it 'cause I don't agree with you..

Yup that's it....

 

[DallasEast]

Get 'im @Coogiguy03!

 

[CWR]

Ok so take the other teams kickers away too and do the math, stupid comparison.

Aubrey is valuable no doubt but this is spin

Lol yes if you suddenly eliminate all field goals from your score you are probably losing a ton of games. Its a league of parity with the smallest of margins separating wins and losses.

A more accurate take would be to eliminate kicks which only a couple/few kickers can make consistently. For example, >55 yards or so. We definitely lose the Giants game without Aubrey.

 

[blueblood70]

Get 'im @Coogiguy03!

No how about you come get me,

I am countering your very incomplete to what I consider a gas lighting post, if you want to call it trolling to get a conversation going ,

you're off base,

there are other kickers with more attempts and more points.. There's a slim margin just with the top 5, but if you notice a lot of these were playoff teams, both ahead and around Aubrey's production,

so I just want to make sure you know you were incorrect and I'm sorry you don't like real information you just want people to be emotional in their responses and agree with you but I'm not doing that because I know kicking is big for every team and the better kicker that you have the more you rely on them because it's normal in the NFL to use field goals to get points.

Alright,

you can see in box one that's total points, box two is total field goals, and box at the end is extra points.

And by the way if you have one of the top scoring offenses in the league, they're saying our red zone sucks really bad ,right, and I agree there needs to be some work, how does Brandon Aubrey have 47 extra points ??

Those come after touchdowns, right?? And the top guy has 48 meaning that the Seattle Seahawks only scored one more touchdown than our offense, and I'm wondering how many of those came from the defense because I know none of ours came from the defense..

so if you want to have a real conversation we can do that if you just looking for emotional responses with poor information I'm not doing it..

| 1 | Jason Myers | SEA | 171 | 41 | 48 |
| 2 | Ka'imi Fairbairn | HOU | 160 | 44 | 28 |
| 3 | Brandon Aubrey | DAL | 155 | 36 | 47 |
| 4 | Cameron Dicker | LAC | 148 | 38 | 34 |
| 5 | Cam Little | JAX | 140 | 30 | 50 |
| 6 | Jake Bates | DET | 135 | 27 | 54 |
| 7 | Andy Borregales | NE | 134 | 27 | 53 |
| 8 | Tyler Loop | BAL | 134 | 30 | 44 |
| 9 | Harrison Butker | KC | 130 | 33 | 31 |
| 10 | Will Reichard | MIN | 130 | 33 | 31 |
| 11 | Chase McLaughlin | TB | 128 | 32 | 32 |

 

[irishline]

This is just an unpretentious, what if thread that could be done with any kicker on any team also. I was thinking about Brandon Aubrey's value to the team and wondered how Dallas would have fared in its seven wins and the one tie if Aubrey's points (field goals and extra points) were completely subtracted from the final scores. <Please note: I focused only on the wins and did not care about the team's losses when thinking of this thread>

Format [Week, Opponent, Actual final score, Total points contributed by Aubrey, Adjusted final score, What if winning team]

1. (link) Week 5, Jets, 37-22, 8, 29-22, Cowboys
2. (link) Week 7, Commanders, 44-22, 14, 30-22, Cowboys
3. (link) Week 11, Raiders, 33-16, 7, 26-16, Cowboys

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1. (link) Week 2, Giants, 40-37, 16, 37-24, Giants
2. (link) Week 12, Eagles, 24-21, 6, 21-18, Eagles
3. (link) Week 13, Chiefs, 31-28, 11, 28-20, Chiefs
4. (link) Week 17, Commanders, 30-23, 12, 23-18, Commanders
5. (link) Week 4, Packers, N/A, 5, 37-32*, Packers

* Game would not have been tied at the end of regulation minus Aubrey's five extra-point kicks

Now take out the points for the other teams' kickers. Kind of one sided this way, no?

For example, week 17 would not be 23-18 Commanders, but 18-12 Cowboys. So we aren't 3-14 anymore.

 

[Walker]

Dallas would have been 17-0 if we could call the plays and make FO decisions.

 

[Ranching]

This is just an unpretentious, what if thread that could be done with any kicker on any team also. I was thinking about Brandon Aubrey's value to the team and wondered how Dallas would have fared in its seven wins and the one tie if Aubrey's points (field goals and extra points) were completely subtracted from the final scores. <Please note: I focused only on the wins and did not care about the team's losses when thinking of this thread>

Format [Week, Opponent, Actual final score, Total points contributed by Aubrey, Adjusted final score, What if winning team]

1. (link) Week 5, Jets, 37-22, 8, 29-22, Cowboys
2. (link) Week 7, Commanders, 44-22, 14, 30-22, Cowboys
3. (link) Week 11, Raiders, 33-16, 7, 26-16, Cowboys

______________

1. (link) Week 2, Giants, 40-37, 16, 37-24, Giants
2. (link) Week 12, Eagles, 24-21, 6, 21-18, Eagles
3. (link) Week 13, Chiefs, 31-28, 11, 28-20, Chiefs
4. (link) Week 17, Commanders, 30-23, 12, 23-18, Commanders
5. (link) Week 4, Packers, N/A, 5, 37-32*, Packers

* Game would not have been tied at the end of regulation minus Aubrey's five extra-point kicks

So, it's his fault we're picking so high!! Where would we be picking with 3 wins?

 

[blueblood70]

Now take out the points for the other teams' kickers. Kind of one sided this way, no?

LIKE THIS, real data,

you can see in box one that's total points, box two is total field goals, and box at the end is extra points.

And by the way if you have one of the top scoring offenses in the league, they're saying our red zone sucks really bad ,right, and I agree there needs to be some work, how does Brandon Aubrey have 47 extra points ??

Those come after touchdowns, right?? And the top guy has 48 meaning that the Seattle Seahawks only scored one more touchdown than our offense, and I'm wondering how many of those came from the defense because I know none of ours came from the defense..

I mean this proves that not only did the Cowboys score pretty often we have one of the top scoring offenses look at all the extra points There aren't many other teams that have much more The Cowboys are top five in scoring meetings they did score quite a few touchdowns which led to more than half of aubrey's points were extra points. For the Cowboys while they need to work on their red zone scoring are not as bad as people are saying but he's also not the top scoring or most attempts in the league

Think it makes the original posters post moot completely wrong...

| 1 | Jason Myers | SEA | 171 | 41 | 48 |
| 2 | Ka'imi Fairbairn | HOU | 160 | 44 | 28 |
| 3 | Brandon Aubrey | DAL | 155 | 36 | 47 |
| 4 | Cameron Dicker | LAC | 148 | 38 | 34 |
| 5 | Cam Little | JAX | 140 | 30 | 50 |
| 6 | Jake Bates | DET | 135 | 27 | 54 |
| 7 | Andy Borregales | NE | 134 | 27 | 53 |
| 8 | Tyler Loop | BAL | 134 | 30 | 44 |
| 9 | Harrison Butker | KC | 130 | 33 | 31 |
| 10 | Will Reichard | MIN | 130 | 33 | 31 |
| 11 | Chase McLaughlin | TB | 128 | 32 | 32 |

 

[Whyjerry]

This is just an unpretentious, what if thread that could be done with any kicker on any team also. I was thinking about Brandon Aubrey's value to the team and wondered how Dallas would have fared in its seven wins and the one tie if Aubrey's points (field goals and extra points) were completely subtracted from the final scores. <Please note: I focused only on the wins and did not care about the team's losses when thinking of this thread>

Format [Week, Opponent, Actual final score, Total points contributed by Aubrey, Adjusted final score, What if winning team]

1. (link) Week 5, Jets, 37-22, 8, 29-22, Cowboys
2. (link) Week 7, Commanders, 44-22, 14, 30-22, Cowboys
3. (link) Week 11, Raiders, 33-16, 7, 26-16, Cowboys

______________

1. (link) Week 2, Giants, 40-37, 16, 37-24, Giants
2. (link) Week 12, Eagles, 24-21, 6, 21-18, Eagles
3. (link) Week 13, Chiefs, 31-28, 11, 28-20, Chiefs
4. (link) Week 17, Commanders, 30-23, 12, 23-18, Commanders
5. (link) Week 4, Packers, N/A, 5, 37-32*, Packers

* Game would not have been tied at the end of regulation minus Aubrey's five extra-point kicks

Great post. Shottenheimer's first year was terrible. Not enough being said about it.

 

[Johannes44]

Aubrey was the MVP of the Dallas Cowboys

 

[DallasEast]

Aubrey was the MVP of the Dallas Cowboys

Nooooo! Don't derail the crashouts over a what if thread!

 

[windward]

If we subtract 1 td allowed per game from our final score we win the division

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This assumes that the Cowboys don’t attempt a single extra point and on fourth down in field goal range they just kneel down.

Exactly. This is a wild what if thread.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Thank you! You can't do an experiment like this and have it one-sided. Why on earth does Dallas subtract all their kicker's points but we leave the other team's? Well no kidding we lose games in the W-L seeing as one team is handicapped and the other isn't.

This is one of silliest points I've seen on here.

Yeah and I’ve seen a lot of silly points but this one is wild.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This is just an unpretentious, what if thread that could be done with any kicker on any team also. I was thinking about Brandon Aubrey's value to the team and wondered how Dallas would have fared in its seven wins and the one tie if Aubrey's points (field goals and extra points) were completely subtracted from the final scores. <Please note: I focused only on the wins and did not care about the team's losses when thinking of this thread>

Format [Week, Opponent, Actual final score, Total points contributed by Aubrey, Adjusted final score, What if winning team]

1. (link) Week 5, Jets, 37-22, 8, 29-22, Cowboys
2. (link) Week 7, Commanders, 44-22, 14, 30-22, Cowboys
3. (link) Week 11, Raiders, 33-16, 7, 26-16, Cowboys

______________

1. (link) Week 2, Giants, 40-37, 16, 37-24, Giants
2. (link) Week 12, Eagles, 24-21, 6, 21-18, Eagles
3. (link) Week 13, Chiefs, 31-28, 11, 28-20, Chiefs
4. (link) Week 17, Commanders, 30-23, 12, 23-18, Commanders
5. (link) Week 4, Packers, N/A, 5, 37-32*, Packers

* Game would not have been tied at the end of regulation minus Aubrey's five extra-point kicks

Why stop there? Let’s take out all of Pickens and Javonte’s scores to see what our record would be.

 

[HungryLion]

Hard to know for sure. Decision making changes based on knowing they have Aubrey.

Honestly I would like to see more aggression from the offense once they cross the 50 and less settling for 50+ yard field goals.

 

[SackMaster]

Wow. The either complete lack of understanding of scoring at the NFL level or the complete disregard for facts in the OP is absolutely mind boggling.

So let's talk some pretty basic football 101. The extreme vast majority of leading scorers on EVERY NFL team is the ... Wait for it ... KICKER!!!! Amazing isn't it?

In fact, the only team in 2025 that didn't have a kicker as their leading scorer was the Colts. But why is that? Because the Colts employed THREE different kickers this season, with them splitting the games 5, 7 and 5 respectfully. Yet if you combine the total of those 3 kickers, they out score Johnathan Taylor 144 to 122.

So, that leads to the very obvious and very, I thought, fundamental knowledge that the team's kicker, even the bad ones, if they play every game, or even the vast majority of games, will end up being the leading scorer for their team.

Facts.

I'm sure there are a few exceptions out there in the history of NFL football, but I'm too lazy to look them up because quite frankly, I'm embarrassed I even have to point this out on a Dallas Cowboys football forum.

Therefore I'm now moving on to the claim that somehow Dallas is unique on it's reliance on the kicker.

In a year where 18 of the 32 teams had a positive point differential:

• The best team was at 11.24 ppg average, so just barely over a 2 score game
• Only 4 or 18 teams had a point differential of 7+ points per game (or a 119 total point diff)
• And 7 of 18 teams had one 3 points or less per game (or a 51 total PD)

So to sit there so confidently and so ignorantly as to state that taking away the kicker, or the leading scorer for each NFL team (including IND if you count all their kickers) that Dallas is in the unique and ominous position to be the only team in the NFL that it would negatively effect so harshly?

Then on top of all that, gives the Cowboys no chance to convert a 4th Down. Go for 2 or any other different things they could have done to score in lieu of the kicker? Complete and total tomfoolery. At best.

This leads me to the conclusion. Either this thread was started due to pure ignorance, pure malice or just plain old propaganda. I'll let other decide what that may be, because I'm sure this post might lead to a mini-vacation for me. Which is cool.I'm all for law and order.

Either way, the OP needs to sit at the kiddie table when it comes to NFL football because that person is completely clueless on how important kickers are to EVERY team in the NFL.

But as always, that's just my opinion.

 

[Established1971]

This is just an unpretentious, what if thread that could be done with any kicker on any team also. I was thinking about Brandon Aubrey's value to the team and wondered how Dallas would have fared in its seven wins and the one tie if Aubrey's points (field goals and extra points) were completely subtracted from the final scores. <Please note: I focused only on the wins and did not care about the team's losses when thinking of this thread>

Format [Week, Opponent, Actual final score, Total points contributed by Aubrey, Adjusted final score, What if winning team]

1. (link) Week 5, Jets, 37-22, 8, 29-22, Cowboys
2. (link) Week 7, Commanders, 44-22, 14, 30-22, Cowboys
3. (link) Week 11, Raiders, 33-16, 7, 26-16, Cowboys

______________

1. (link) Week 2, Giants, 40-37, 16, 37-24, Giants
2. (link) Week 12, Eagles, 24-21, 6, 21-18, Eagles
3. (link) Week 13, Chiefs, 31-28, 11, 28-20, Chiefs
4. (link) Week 17, Commanders, 30-23, 12, 23-18, Commanders
5. (link) Week 4, Packers, N/A, 5, 37-32*, Packers

* Game would not have been tied at the end of regulation minus Aubrey's five extra-point kicks

lol you have to also remove the other teams kickers points for this point to be valid