Danny White for next coach?

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Here is a thought. I'm sure I'll get chewed up and spit out for posting this idea but here goes. With all of the speculation surrounding Parcell's future. And who will be taking over as Head Coach of our beloved Cowboys. Does anybody have any ideas of who his sucessor will be? I know that Jeff Fisher has been mentioned and so has Bill Cowher. Sean Payton was the heir apparent but he now has his own gig in New Orleans. Are there some defensive or offensive coordinators that deserve the job? Here's an idea...Danny White? I think it would be great if he could get the ring as a coach that eluded him as a player. Any ideas?
 

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Interesting idea-- I like it!

Danny White does not have any NFL coaching "track record." That would make him a risky choice.

However, I think he would do a great job. Personally I would support White as Coach-- It would a great bridge to the classic Cowboy legacy. Plus, it would be great to see Danny in a Super Bowl.

Unfortunately ---I don't think Jerry Jones would ever select him.

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I am surprised that Danny hasn't had any coaching opportunities in the NFL. His success in the arena league as coach and as a QB in the NFL hasn't opened up any doors.
 

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It would be nice to get Danny involved with the Cowboys again but I don't think he'd be a good nfl coach right now. He's been away from the game too long.
 

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I say no on White.

We have a "unique" situation where we have an Owner that is heavily involved and likes to be involved in almost every decision.

I think a coach with "skins" on the wall has to be the only option as they would be more likely to keep Jerry from absolutely ruining the franchise when he starting making all the decisions.

- Mike G.
 

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mickgreen58;1153359 said:
I say no on White.

We have a "unique" situation where we have an Owner that is heavily involved and likes to be involved in almost every decision.

I think a coach with "skins" on the wall has to be the only option as they would be more likely to keep Jerry from absolutely ruining the franchise when he starting making all the decisions.

- Mike G.

Yep Yep.

And Danny White would be to big of a risky move for any NFL franchise right now. He needs to ease in as an assistant under a good head coach and work his way up first. There are way to many others that are way more qualified at this point.
 

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Screw The Hall;1153365 said:
Yep Yep.

And Danny White would be to big of a risky move for any NFL franchise right now. He needs to ease in as an assistant under a good head coach and work his way up first. There are way to many others that are way more qualified at this point.

Like who?

I've gotten some yeses and some nos. But for the nos, some gave no reasons why not. I understand the lack of NFL experience and I know the AFL is very different but who else is there? And his success in the AFL has to carry some weight. Just as much as a college coach. The Jerry thing might be an obstacle but I have no idea if they've ever met. But like I've said...who else is there?
 

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This is what I think about it

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sf49rh8r;1153383 said:
Like who?

Honestly probably half of the assistant coaches in the NFL are more qualified than White at this juncture. They are at least in the NFL and being groomed by NFL coaches for the NFL game. I like Danny and would love to see him break into the league at some point but going straight from Arena ball to a NFL head position is a huge leap up the coaching ladder of astronomical proportions.
 

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Screw The Hall;1153406 said:
Honestly probably half of the assistant coaches in the NFL are more qualified than White at this juncture. They are at least in the NFL and being groomed by NFL coaches for the NFL game. I like Danny and would love to see him break into the league at some point but going straight from Arena ball to a NFL head position is a huge leap up the coaching ladder of astronomical proportions.

We've seen that fail over and over again. Campo and Gailey among others around the league. Being groomed is no more a guarantee than coaching in college. How many former assistants that were head coaches are now back to being assistants? Fassell, Cunningham to name two. I could be wrong but since there are no guarantees and his experience as a QB in the NFL for over a decade under one of the all time greats, his experience in the AFL as a head coach and a gm should be just as much grooming as some of these other guys.
 

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sf49rh8r;1153414 said:
We've seen that fail over and over again. Campo and Gailey among others around the league. Being groomed is no more a guarantee than coaching in college. How many former assistants that were head coaches are now back to being assistants? Fassell, Cunningham to name two. I could be wrong but since there are no guarantees and his experience as a QB in the NFL for over a decade under one of the all time greats, his experience in the AFL as a head coach and a gm should be just as much grooming as some of these other guys.

Im telling you, you get a coach in here with "minimal" NFL Coaching experience and some skins, your asking for "Jerry Jones" trouble.

Jerry Jones would overreact at the slightest inkling of trouble with an "inexperienced" head coach on the sidelines.

You can't always get someone like Gibbs or Parcells, Hall of Fame Coaching (no matter what their present state is), but you have to find someone that has NFL Coaching experince.

Of course for other teams, I dont think that is the situation but again, in Dallas, we have a "unique" situation.

- Mike G.
 

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mickgreen58;1153432 said:
Im telling you, you get a coach in here with "minimal" NFL Coaching experience and some skins, your asking for "Jerry Jones" trouble.

Jerry Jones would overreact at the slightest inkling of trouble with an "inexperienced" head coach on the sidelines.

You can't always get someone like Gibbs or Parcells, Hall of Fame Coaching (no matter what their present state is), but you have to find someone that has NFL Coaching experince.

Of course for other teams, I dont think that is the situation but again, in Dallas, we have a "unique" situation.

- Mike G.


If Jerry is the concern, then he will chew up and spit out one of these groomed assistants just as fast. And there aren't many HOF coaches willing to take the job. Maybe someone sucessful like Cowher or Fisher but an assistant will be fodder for Jerry.
 

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sf49rh8r;1153440 said:
If Jerry is the concern, then he will chew up and spit out one of these groomed assistants just as fast. And there aren't many HOF coaches willing to take the job. Maybe someone sucessful like Cowher or Fisher but an assistant will be fodder for Jerry.

True.

That is why I think we need someone that has alot of respect, some decent skins, and alot of experience.

I think all of the above is needed to keep Jerry Jones at arms length from "screwing up" the franchise again.

Of course, I am assuming Jerry Jones has not learned his lesson, which he may or may not, so I just have to go with the old saying, "Expect the worst but hope for the best".

That is one of the positives Parcells brings to the table, he can keep Jerry Jones in check....but time may be running out :) .

- Mike G.
 

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Hell, if we are just going to annoint a random ex player as head coach, Jones should conduct an open Madden 2007 tournament among Cowboy fans with the winner recieving a 3 year deal to be head coach.
 

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mickgreen58;1153444 said:
True.

That is why I think we need someone that has alot of respect, some decent skins, and alot of experience.

I think all of the above is needed to keep Jerry Jones at arms length from "screwing up" the franchise again.

Of course, I am assuming Jerry Jones has not learned his lesson, which he may or may not, so I just have to go with the old saying, "Expect the worst but hope for the best".

That is one of the positives Parcells brings to the table, he can keep Jerry Jones in check....but time may be running out :) .

- Mike G.

My point exactly. But there are no more Parcells types out there. No one with his credentials and re-hashing another has been is a scary propositon. Gibbs and Parcells to some degree have proven that it takes more than credentials from 10 years ago to be sucessful today. And guys like Lovie, Payton and Dungy aren't looking for jobs. And the assistant route is tenuous at best.
 

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sf49rh8r;1153414 said:
We've seen that fail over and over again. Campo and Gailey among others around the league. Being groomed is no more a guarantee than coaching in college. How many former assistants that were head coaches are now back to being assistants? Fassell, Cunningham to name two. I could be wrong but since there are no guarantees and his experience as a QB in the NFL for over a decade under one of the all time greats, his experience in the AFL as a head coach and a gm should be just as much grooming as some of these other guys.

I pretty sure there's not one current head coach in the NFL today that hasn't served as an assistant in the league first. I could be mistaken but right off the top of my head I can't think of one. It's pretty much mandatory.

Jimmy Johnson is the only coach that comes to mind in the modern era that had any success as a HC in the NFL w/o being an assistant there 1st. And his situation is worlds different than White's.

The transition to HC in the NFL from arena is just to big of a leap to make in one step ... I'm talking Grand Canyon style.
 

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Screw The Hall;1153460 said:
I pretty sure there's not one current head coach in the NFL today that hasn't served as an assistant in the league first. I could be mistaken but right off the top of my head I can't think of one. It's pretty much mandatory.

Jimmy Johnson is the only coach that comes to mind in the modern era that had any success as a HC in the NFL w/o being an assistant there 1st. And his situation is worlds different than White's.

The transition to HC in the NFL from arena is just to big of a leap to make in one step ... I'm talking Grand Canyon style.

I'm not saying your point isn't valid. And you may be right about the current head coaches and them having to pay their dues as assistants. But what I am saying is that path doesn't guarantee success. There are many whom have gone that path and failed also.

I guess I give more credence to his past than you. And you give more credence to paying your dues as an assistant.

I do acknowledge and appreciate the discussion and at least you are willing to defend your point with valid arguments.

And you can kinda add Barry to that list although he had very little to do with winning ring number 5. Just sit back and watch us work Barry.
 

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sf49rh8r;1153487 said:
I'm not saying your point isn't valid. And you may be right about the current head coaches and them having to pay their dues as assistants. But what I am saying is that path doesn't guarantee success. There are many whom have gone that path and failed also.

I guess I give more credence to his past than you. And you give more credence to paying your dues as an assistant.

I do acknowledge and appreciate the discussion and at least you are willing to defend your point with valid arguments.

Civil debate is what messageboard banter is supposed to be all about. It's refreshing when someone like yourself feels strongly about their position on a subject but doesn't feel the need to go into attack mode when challenged with a differing opinion.

I take my hat off to you.
 

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sf49rh8r;1153489 said:
And you can kinda add Barry to that list although he had very little to do with winning ring number 5. Just sit back and watch us work Barry.

Good point.
 
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