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Did The Cowboys Get Too Many Sacks In 2008?

Posted by jellis at 6/9/2009 4:08 PM CDT on truebluefanclub.com

Last season the Cowboys defense led the NFL in sacks with 59. With all the pressure on the quarterback, then, it would stand to reason the team should've been near the top of the league in turnovers too, right?

Well, not so much. The Cowboys had only eight interceptions on the year, to go with 14 fumbles recovered. Conversely, the Cowboys threw 20 picks themselves, but were only sacked 31 times. How is that possible?

"When you get a lot of sacks you're not going to get a lot of turnovers," Terence Newman said. "Our D-Line was excellent last year, DeMarcus (Ware) had 20 sacks. That's going to take away from the interceptions."

For a lot of people the assumption is that more sacks would generally mean more pressure, which should equate to more rushed throws and thus, more interceptions. But apparently the correlation can actually be negative.

Last year the Ravens led the NFL in interceptions with 26, but had just 34 sacks. Cleveland was second with 23 picks, but had a measly 17 sacks. The key is to find a happy medium. The 2007 Cowboys had 46 sacks and 19 interceptions, and the Chargers that same year had 42 sacks and 30 picks.

"We need more than we got last year," Wade Phillips said. "You want to lead the league, obviously, in sacks. But you want to be up there in interceptions also."

That could mean more man coverage from the secondary. Last year when the Cowboys blitzed they were mostly playing zone, but Phillips thinks they have the personnel to play more man now.

"There's a line in there where if you've got enough good rushers you don't need to bring too many (blitzers)," Phillips said. "You can play man but double up some, so we're looking at things now about what we can do, but we are looking at more man-to-man."

-Josh Ellis
 

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How many INTs did the Chargers produce with their 60 sack season?
 

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You can't line up 10 yards off the ball and play that soft stupid zone and expect to get many interceptions.
 

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actually playing zone should produce more INTs

not when you have your guys play 10 yards off the line, mind you

but playing man should leave to more tipped balls to the safeties to get

Newman can't really talk about the sacks being a factor, he has hands of stone
 

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Bob Sacamano;2804325 said:
actually playing zone should produce more INTs

not when you have your guys play 10 yards off the line, mind you

but playing man should leave to more tipped balls to the safeties to get

Newman can't really talk about the sacks being a factor, he has hands of stone


Agreed. All just BS excuses now, there were many reasons for the lack of INTs, some of which was being out of position and dropped balls. Now the Cowboys have to rein in their pass rush to find that magical balance for INTs???? Pure BS.
 

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Apparently someone forgot to tell Thurman's Thieves about Newman's theory.

The 1985 Cowboys had 62 sacks and 33 interceptions.
 

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Meh, I think there's a lot of luck involved with INTs in any one particular year. In 2007 we were 6th in the NFL in INTs, and the Steelers and Eagles were tied for last with only 11. That one year didn't mean that Pitt and Philly somehow had flawed defenses. And neither do we.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2804325 said:
actually playing zone should produce more INTs

not when you have your guys play 10 yards off the line, mind you

but playing man should leave to more tipped balls to the safeties to get

Newman can't really talk about the sacks being a factor, he has hands of stone

Very true, that is why he is a db and not a wr.
 

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Sacks+QB Timing disrupted+ Hurried+ can't set feet=INTs

Calculus 101:)
 

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adbutcher;2804376 said:
Very true, that is why he is a db and not a wr.

yeah, but he gives DBs a bad name, he even drops gimme INTs

Cbz40;2804378 said:
Sacks+QB Timing disrupted+ Hurried+ can't set feet=INTs

Calculus 101:)

I agree that our pressure could be better, we get sacks, but the pressure just isn't consistent

not to mention noone is ever near where the ball is thrown because the safeties play so far back, and the corners give up so much cushion
 

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Cbz40;2804248 said:
"When you get a lot of sacks you're not going to get a lot of turnovers," Terence Newman said. "Our D-Line was excellent last year, DeMarcus (Ware) had 20 sacks. That's going to take away from the interceptions."
Mmm...yes and no.

Sure, when the QB is sacked, that takes away a chance at an interception, but a more accurate indicator would be interception percentage (pass attempts against the defense vs interceptions). Teams like the Browns (446 pass attempts against their defense), the Bucs (475), the Raiders (471), the Colts (481), and several others all had less pass attempts against their defense than the Cowboys (508), yet each of these teams had more interceptions than the Cowboys, several having twice as many.

I haven't done the math, but just by eyeballing it I can see that even for the teams that had more than 508 passes attempted against their defenses, many of those teams had a better interception percentage than the Cowboys defense.

In terms of INT percentage, the Cowboys were, I suspect, in the bottom 3rd of the league in 2008, and those 59 sacks had less to do with that than Newman thinks.
 

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What a stupid excuse. They didn't get INT's because they were playing that garbage zone on third downs. Let's play some man!! Newman,Scandrick,Jenkins,Mickens. All man corners..hmmmm let's play zone!
 

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viman96;2804259 said:
How many INTs did the Chargers produce with their 60 sack season?
The Chargers had 61 sacks in Wade Phillips' final season as defensive coordinator back in '06 and they came up with 16 interceptions (T17th).

The Ravens were second in sacks with 60 and first overall in interceptions with 28.

The Dolphins were third in sacks with 47 and 31st with only 8 picks.

The Packers were fourth with 46 sacks and third with 23 interceptions.

The Patriots were fifth in sacks with 44 and fourth in thefts with 22.
 

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There seems to be relatively little correlation between sacks and INTS. We missed out on a lot of possibilities by having our corners give too big a cushion.
 

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burmafrd;2804512 said:
There seems to be relatively little correlation between sacks and INTS. We missed out on a lot of possibilities by having our corners give too big a cushion.

Bingo.

We also had a lot of apprehensive players in our secondary. Next year I expect to see us jumping in front of a lot more passes, and Wade taking more chances and giving our CBs more freedom.
 

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the zone coverage and fear of giving up the big play is the reason why we had the fewest interceptions in the league last season.
 

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Yeah, sacks cause less interceptions.

Oh, and this just in, a bye is the same as a win, and a deep INT is the same as a punt.
 

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Seaf;2804543 said:
Yeah, sacks cause less interceptions.

Oh, and this just in, a bye is the same as a win, and a deep INT is the same as a punt.


And a 30 yard pass is a slant.:D
 

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I don't understand the concept of too many sacks. That's like too much money, too much fun, or too much sex.
 
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